Hamilton is also looking pretty amazing.
Anyone else notice Bengie changed gear after his bomb to left field?? Any guesses???
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Wouldn't it have been incredible if the Yankees pulled off one of the greatest rallies ever in the ninth and the one fan left gave them a standing ovation? 
I understand the economics of the pro game; but that doesn't change my opinion. It is so sad to see the number of empty seats and the number of people leaving Yankee stadium early. It would be nice if "regular fans and families" could afford to attend special events.
actually other then the Field Boxes behind home plate the Yankee Playoff tickets are cheaper then the Rangers, Yankee fans have become spoiled and they can't handle watching their team get pummeled.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
This one loss for the Rangers may well have cost them the series
Nope, they remained "on a mission."
The $220mil a yr. team looked inept. What a job by the Rangers and what an offensive showing. Nice to witness a team, that to a man, came to the plate with a plan, sac bunt when needed, hit and run, hit behind the runner, go oppo on outside pitches, look for a pitch up to drive, and they just continued to "get them on, get em over and get em in."
And they out pitched the Yanks to boot. Gotta love baseball played like that. Pitchers went deep, threw first pitch strikes ... WOW. Ron Washington said it best; "all this Team does is show up and play baseball."
Hope it's them and the Giants.
Three thoughts:
(1). Did anyone else notice that in the 1,000 showings of the Taco Bell commercial where Rivera comes in to "close", the kid actually hasn't taken a single bite of the Chalupa? Hopefully that commercial is deep sixed soon.
(2). Now comes the best part-the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and tearing of cloth by Yankee Nation as they decide what players to purchase to try to buy next year's series. Please Mr. Lee, just say no.
(3). Is Hamilton a great story or what? What a wonderfully and sincerely humble kid! I realize he has been through all 7 circles of Hades which will surely add a sense of perspective to your life, but he just comes across as a about as genuinely appreciative of his opportunities and blessings as a professional athlete can convey in media interviews.
(1). Did anyone else notice that in the 1,000 showings of the Taco Bell commercial where Rivera comes in to "close", the kid actually hasn't taken a single bite of the Chalupa? Hopefully that commercial is deep sixed soon.
(2). Now comes the best part-the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and tearing of cloth by Yankee Nation as they decide what players to purchase to try to buy next year's series. Please Mr. Lee, just say no.
(3). Is Hamilton a great story or what? What a wonderfully and sincerely humble kid! I realize he has been through all 7 circles of Hades which will surely add a sense of perspective to your life, but he just comes across as a about as genuinely appreciative of his opportunities and blessings as a professional athlete can convey in media interviews.
quote:Originally posted by hokieone:
(3). Is Hamilton a great story or what? What a wonderfully and sincerely humble kid! I realize he has been through all 7 circles of Hades which will surely add a sense of perspective to your life, but he just comes across as a about as genuinely appreciative of his opportunities and blessings as a professional athlete can convey in media interviews.
Somehow though, I think there is still a deep dark secret about Hamilton that has yet to come out.
quote:Originally posted by birdman14:
Somehow though, I think there is still a deep dark secret about Hamilton that has yet to come out.
Now, why would we look forward to this?
Why can't we appreciate what he's gone through, how hard he's working to stay out of it and pray that he continues a healthy lifestyle and a long baseball career?
i'm not sure you can get any deeper or darker than what we all know about him. not many people share their low's like he has.
quote:Originally posted by birdman14:quote:Originally posted by hokieone:
(3). Is Hamilton a great story or what? What a wonderfully and sincerely humble kid! I realize he has been through all 7 circles of Hades which will surely add a sense of perspective to your life, but he just comes across as a about as genuinely appreciative of his opportunities and blessings as a professional athlete can convey in media interviews.
Somehow though, I think there is still a deep dark secret about Hamilton that has yet to come out.
As someone who's had a family member that has went through some of the dark days like Hamilton I don't know how to really say this so please bear with me.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is something in his past but I genuinely believe that he's turned it around and he TRULY does want to live a better life. Because he's trying to change his life I hope if something is there it never comes out. My family member isn't famous / popular and it's a fight everyday to stay clean. I couldn't imagine how tough that fight is under the scrutiny he's under.
Getting the second chance he's getting on having productive / quality life is inspiring. I used to wonder how those who have destroyed their lives with drugs and whatever could be seen as inspiration but after watching my family member go through it - yeah I do see how it's inspirational. It's amazing how tough someone has to be to change their life like that.
I believe Hamilton wants to change his life and believe he's succeeding. If there is something dark there I hope it never sees the light of day. That life for Hamilton is dead and I hope any secrets from that life stays dead also.
He was, at one time, a homeless, drug-addicted strung out bum. I'm sure he had legal troubles related to that. Short of a homicide, I don't know he could have gotten much lower.
P.s. Kudos to Girardi for his post-game comments-straight-up, no excuses, accepted more blame than he deserved. He showed a lot of class as I'm sure the New York tabloids are already demanding a change...but then, outside of New York, who cares about those tabloids... Nice job Joe.
P.s. Kudos to Girardi for his post-game comments-straight-up, no excuses, accepted more blame than he deserved. He showed a lot of class as I'm sure the New York tabloids are already demanding a change...but then, outside of New York, who cares about those tabloids... Nice job Joe.
quote:P.s. Kudos to Girardi for his post-game comments-straight-up, no excuses, accepted more blame than he deserved. He showed a lot of class as I'm sure the New York tabloids are already demanding a change...but then, outside of New York, who cares about those tabloids... Nice job Joe.
Girardi did a bad job and a manager change is neessary. He didn't put his team in the best possible position to compete. With Sabathia and Moe in the pen and Girardi goes with a matchup with David Robertson against a hitter he had sucesss with based on past history. Turns out history based on 3 at-bats. This guy is clueless. Him and Cashman ruined two young pitchers in Chamberlain and Hughes. Chamberlain went from lights-out 100mph to clueless and Hutghes got babiied and screwed around with so much his second half and playoffs were a failure. Hitting Jeter at leadoff and not hitting Cano in the 3-hole all year when Teixeira noting more than a low-average power hitter who belongs hitting fifth and living and dying with Posada who is useless behind the plate and can't ever get on the same page as his pitchers.
I could go on and on about this mess that Girardi made.
While the offense besides Cano and Granderson forgot to show up, Girardi mis-managed the rest of this mess.
I never liked Girardi in spite of last year winning which he got by on with just three pitchers because of his and Cashmans tinkering messing up the young arms and shortening the rotation.
As for being straight up, he's got no other choice but to tell it like it is because anyone would see thru a phony. He can take that goofy laugh of his out of town.
What's really sad is how people in this country can't be happy for others that turn their life around and have success. Why is everyone so bent on trying to tear others down that have success? Just be happy for them. Like coach said, you don't know when you or someone close to you might end up in the same boat of trouble. It's simply wonderful people like that, heck all of us, have a person around us that has bounced back.
Having said that, I've heard Josh say people out there wanting to see him fail and fall off the wagon motivate him to stay the straight and narrow path...and drive him to be open. He doesn't owe us anything. I trust he's been open to those he does owe it to...his employer and his family and friends. I've never seen someone who has been thru as much as Josh put himself thru, be so open about it. I could care less if something comes out in the future. I don't need to know...it's none of my business. But I for one will cheer for him more as a person than a player. I think he's a fantastic model for all of us.
Having said that, I've heard Josh say people out there wanting to see him fail and fall off the wagon motivate him to stay the straight and narrow path...and drive him to be open. He doesn't owe us anything. I trust he's been open to those he does owe it to...his employer and his family and friends. I've never seen someone who has been thru as much as Josh put himself thru, be so open about it. I could care less if something comes out in the future. I don't need to know...it's none of my business. But I for one will cheer for him more as a person than a player. I think he's a fantastic model for all of us.
quote:What's really sad is how people in this country can't be happy for others that turn their life around and have success. Why is everyone so bent on trying to tear others down that have success? Just be happy for them
It could be because if the average person turns his/her life around, they don't get forgiven in society like someone who is a superstar with fame and money. If the average person makes a mistake in their life, all of a sudden everybody becomes a holy-roller and ride the high moral ground they often have to live with that mistake where employers won't hire for past mistakes and society don't accept them for past mistakes yet just because the guy can hit a baseball, all is good. If Hamilton was some nobody minor leaguer, he'd have been cut off just like that.
You clearly have not spent much time observing Josh to think that. He's anything but a "holy-roller riding the high moral ground". He NEVER makes a judgemental remark about others and their beliefs. He just talks about his experience and what's important to him. Period. Leaves it up to you to make your decisions for yourself. Do you really think it's just by chance his teammates love him so much?
He was a jobless, homeless, drug addict who live in a maintenance building cleaning bathrooms trying to get another chance. He didn't get it given to him. He earned his second chance...the one he needed because he blew his first chance. Why hate him because it worked out. Why can't people be happy for him? The color of his uniform shouldn't dictate that.
He was a jobless, homeless, drug addict who live in a maintenance building cleaning bathrooms trying to get another chance. He didn't get it given to him. He earned his second chance...the one he needed because he blew his first chance. Why hate him because it worked out. Why can't people be happy for him? The color of his uniform shouldn't dictate that.
quote:You clearly have not spent much time observing Josh to think that. He's anything but a "holy-roller riding the high moral ground".
No. Not Hamilton. I know Hamilton's story. The tatoos etc.. and it is quite a story. The holy-rollers I refer to is the public and society, not the ballplayer.
Also, lets be realistic here.. Had Hamilton not been a highly skilled ballplayer, he wouldn't be surrounded by people like the one who watches him 7/24 to stay out of trouble or live a regimented life a of an athlete and most likely had he been a regular Joe Blow, with his lifestyle, it's likely he would've been found in a motel room or in the gutter dead of an OD.
I am not a yankee fan, they struggled a lot this year, and that is quite normam for any team, but I thought that they would play beter catch up when down by runs, soemthing they have done well at in the past.
You can't blame Giradi, though managers always take the blame, when your guys are not getting the job done. As a player's mom, I always felt the full responsibility comes from the guys in the field.
Has Joba ever had a good year?
Very happy for Hamilton, it is always great to see when someone very talented beats the odds. However, he's in a different situation than most everyday people with codependency problems, he has a companion that is with him 24/7, not sure if it is provided by the team. I am not sure where he would have been without him.
Texas played smart baseball, they knew they had to score early and big to stay away from Rivera. JMO.
Texas winning is great for baseball, somehow watching the same teams in the running or in it every year gets old. I would like to see a Ranger/Giant matchup.
I wouldn't be surprised if Girardi heads to Chicago and Rivera retires.
You can't blame Giradi, though managers always take the blame, when your guys are not getting the job done. As a player's mom, I always felt the full responsibility comes from the guys in the field.
Has Joba ever had a good year?
Very happy for Hamilton, it is always great to see when someone very talented beats the odds. However, he's in a different situation than most everyday people with codependency problems, he has a companion that is with him 24/7, not sure if it is provided by the team. I am not sure where he would have been without him.
Texas played smart baseball, they knew they had to score early and big to stay away from Rivera. JMO.
Texas winning is great for baseball, somehow watching the same teams in the running or in it every year gets old. I would like to see a Ranger/Giant matchup.
I wouldn't be surprised if Girardi heads to Chicago and Rivera retires.
quote:I wouldn't be surprised if Girardi heads to Chicago and Rivera retires.
Girardi can go to Chicago but as for Moe, as old as he is, he's still the game's best closer. Kind of a freak of nature who I'd have no problen giving 3 more years. He's that good.
Rivera is still the best athlete on that team and may be their best centerfielder. They say he can track down a ball as anyone and still quick as a cat fielding his position.
quote:Had Hamilton not been a highly skilled ballplayer, he wouldn't be surrounded by people like the one who watches him 7/24 to stay out of trouble or live a regimented life a of an athlete and most likely had he been a regular Joe Blow, with his lifestyle, it's likely he would've been found in a motel room or in the gutter dead of an OD.
True. But when he hit bottom...and stayed there for a while...no one was there watching him 7/24. He was that Joe Blow you mention. He picked his self up and put himself in that position get his lost skills back and then take advantage of them. Then, when he got back and got some money, he was smart enough to get people around him to keep him on track. You're right, most don't have that luxury. He does and I don't fault him for it. I think he's been smart about it.
In Chicago Cubs just signed a new manager and Ozzie does not appear to be leaving the Sox
Zomby
You are so wrong is your assessment of addicts--have one in your family and see how it is and how everyone bands together to assist them--we have such a person in our family
Zomby
You are so wrong is your assessment of addicts--have one in your family and see how it is and how everyone bands together to assist them--we have such a person in our family
having been in recovery myself, and having it hit close to home as well..........i don't care if it's josh or joe blow the rag man. one more day clean and sober is one more day on the right side. how ever it happens it is a wonderful thing.
Sometimes its actually harder to stay clean and sober when you do have money and all the temptations of a celebrity lifestyle. Rich or poor, everyone deserves a second chance and I admire anyone who can pick themselves up by the bootstraps when they've hit rock bottom and everyone has lost confidence in you. I'm not sure I would have been strong enough if I had gotten myself in that situation.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
This one loss for the Rangers may well have cost them the series
quote:having been in recovery myself, and having it hit close to home as well..........i don't care if it's josh or joe blow the rag man. one more day clean and sober is one more day on the right side. how ever it happens it is a wonderful thing.
quote:Originally posted by 20dad:
having been in recovery myself, and having it hit close to home as well..........i don't care if it's josh or joe blow the rag man. one more day clean and sober is one more day on the right side. how ever it happens it is a wonderful thing.
Congratulations on your sobriety and best of luck with it for you and your family. You deserve and you've earned it.
This difference with Josh Hamilton is that he never, ever takes credit for pulling himself out of the gutter and restoring his baseball career. His best quality is his humble faith, crediting his Lord, Jesus Christ, for everything.
In every interview I've ever seen here in the Dallas area, the messsage remains the same. Through slumps and injuries, wins and personal achievements, he never waivers from total trust in God and always inspires me to live by faith.
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In every interview I've ever seen here in the Dallas area, the messsage remains the same. Through slumps and injuries, wins and personal achievements, he never waivers from total trust in God and always inspires me to live by faith.
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Let me say this about Hamilton:
I'm a fan of Josh the person (what he's become to this point from where he was) and the BASEBALL player, if for no other reason;
I can NEVER envision him at the plate, bending over holding his hand, calling for a Trainer while PRETENDING he was hit by the pitch! I'm glad to see the end of the NY Pretenders.
I'm a fan of Josh the person (what he's become to this point from where he was) and the BASEBALL player, if for no other reason;
I can NEVER envision him at the plate, bending over holding his hand, calling for a Trainer while PRETENDING he was hit by the pitch! I'm glad to see the end of the NY Pretenders.
quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:quote:What's really sad is how people in this country can't be happy for others that turn their life around and have success. Why is everyone so bent on trying to tear others down that have success? Just be happy for them
It could be because if the average person turns his/her life around, they don't get forgiven in society like someone who is a superstar with fame and money. If the average person makes a mistake in their life, all of a sudden everybody becomes a holy-roller and ride the high moral ground they often have to live with that mistake where employers won't hire for past mistakes and society don't accept them for past mistakes yet just because the guy can hit a baseball, all is good. If Hamilton was some nobody minor leaguer, he'd have been cut off just like that.
You know, I want to bash you here but I do understand what you're saying. I don't agree but I do understand your thought process.
I'm sure it does seem like the public figure always gets more breaks. However, you sure cannot prove that. There are many, many average Joe's who also get that second chance and make the most of it.
I'd rather bash Lindsey Lohan-types who repeatedly abuse their second-third-fourth-etc. chances BECAUSE of their celebrity.
Hamilton appears to be a great role model for my boys. As does his new friend, CJ Wilson who has never had a drink or a smoke.
And so is John Doe and Jane Doe down the street who have also made mistakes, changed their ways and made something out of their lives. I couldn't care less if they're on TV or not.
And since my boys don't happen to know John and Jane Doe, God has put Josh Hamilton through this ordeal and public second chance to set an example for other people that might encounter this kind of problem.