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Well, I don't believe in curses but...

1. Boston is averaging 4 errors/game and has a 2 -0 lead in the series.

2. With runners on 1st and 2nd, Matheney hits a shot (strange in and of itself) and it is gloved by Mueller who already had 3 errors in the game and then Mueller turns it into a double play.

3. St. Louis pitchers have issued 14 walks in the first two games of the series. During the regular season, the Cardinals handed out the second-fewest free passes in the National League.

4. A ball that would have been foul in any park with a foul pole 325 feet away from home hits the 300 foot foul pole turning Bellhorn into a national phenomanon.

5. The Red Soxs become the darling of America and get their own TV program. Naturally, this is on ESPN and the Cardinals are mentioned for roughtly 1 minute. In fact all of the attention has been on the Red Soxs.

6. Who are the Red Soxs Playing in the World Series?

7. I forgot and so I added -- Come on, how many times are the Red Soxs going to score with 2 outs?????????? NOW, that is proof positive that there stint with the curse if over.

See what curses can do for you!

"Failure depends upon people who say I can't."  - my dad's quote July 1st, 2021.  CoachB25 = Cannonball for other sites.

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You may well be right, Coach! I'd say the only people watching who aren't rooting for the Sox are Cards fans and Yankee fans....and that collective mojo is apparently pretty powerful.

Just as we have a good Matty and a bad Matty, they have a good Pedro and a bad Pedro. Which one turns up will be exceedingly important to us.

As would pitching to win (not pitching to "not lose"), some patience at the plate (hear that, Scott?), a consistent strike zone (while I'm asking for the world), and fewer at-'em balls!
Top Gun

The Red Sox won't be trotting out gas cans like Kevin Brown, Javy Vasquez, Loaiza, Flash (Fire) Gordon, or, I almost forgot, Felix Heredia. Thank God. Big Grin

CADad

Who will they pitch. They apparently have no confidence in Jason Marquis. They bumped him in the rotation, then used him in relief, without success last night.
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Suppan is scheduled for Game 3; Marquis for Game 4. Then it's back to Woody, apparently. Not that TLR hasn't switched out starters at the last minute.

Carp's done, due as much to the fact that he hasn't pitched in so long as to the progress of the injury, and that hurts. (hey, I think Morris is done as well, but that's just me....multiple walks or multiple homers given up, it's all dangerous Wink)

Marquis has been showing attitude; his denial/defensive response to his baserunning error in the NLCS seemed to be a bit of a straw that broke the proverbial with LaRussa. He's going to have to earn some respect back.
The commentators always get on a bandwagon of whose winning! noidea

All we heard about was the Yankees last week and the commentators acted like the Red Sox stunk! Well they didn't and won the series but then the commentators switched gears and acted like they knew it all along. Some said they predicted the Red Sox would be the Yankees!
Yea right! They are just always on the bandwagon of the winning side!

I hope the Cardinals can turn things around at Bush Stadium but if not the Red Sox have waited a long time for this to happen and I will be happy for them to finally get the monkey off there backs but they will have to earn it!
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Yes, they do follow what they see as The Story, then apply the spin to try to make it so:

August: Cubs v Red Sox! Battle of the Curses!
(oops, meltdown starting)
Sept: Dodgers v Yankees! "Storied" & cross-continental
(blast, not looking too probable)
Oct: Yankees v Who Cares, They Won't Win Anyway
(what the heck, it's an annual stance)
Oct: Red Sox v Clemens (and he can bring the Astros if he wants to)
(or the Yankes v Clemens, either way, 'cause he is The Story)

......so now we're stuck with Red Sox v Some Bunch Of Guys We All Picked to Come in Third, and then they went and won 105 games and made us look silly.

So we'll ignore them.

Wink
If you believe in curses, then know one curse has been replaced with another. As a Gloucester, MASS Sox fan stuck in Texas and I benefit from both. The curse is/will be lifted off my beloved Sox, and one placed on the hated Yanks, helping the Rangers in the process. What curse you say, why the "Curse of THE COOLER." Yes Alex Rodriguez and his classess act has left the Rangers helping them like the Mariners, and cursing the Yankees. Ask your self Yankee fans, would Derek Jeter ever take a karate chop like A-Rod, doubt it. Enjoy his self glorifying numbers during the regular season, because he obviously won't help POST SEASON. "The Cooler" is the nickname given to him by other MLB players! HA! GO SOX!
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Have some of you gone mad??? Where is the angst over another baseball tradition going down the tubes? I LOVE listening to Boston fans moan and groan, and have heard it my entire life; nothing personal, it just amuses me to no end. And now we may be 15 hours away from the end of such whining and moaning in our life time. Bill "Spaceman" Lee was on NPR talking about it-will our children grow up not hearing the wisdom of Bill Lee? Will he become a nobody, relegated to clips once in a while on the History Channel? Will anyone ever interview him again if the Sox break the curse?

Baseball life as we know it is endangered. And if that's not bad enough, tonight's game is on at the same time as my beloved Hokies....

p.s. Never mind, senior moment, football game is TOMORROW night.
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I can't give up just yet, but the heart of the order sure picked a fine time to have some ugly ABs.

In addition to that, Hokie, is the danger to all those Sox fans who asked the Diety to let them see just one WS win "before they die".....will there be massive and immediate calls home to their Maker? Wink

Just as long as that lovely Little Old Lady interviewed during Game 2 is kept safe....the one who kept up with her scorecard while being pestered with the Fox-drivvel questions!
Orlando

I expected Soupie to do as well as the NLCS game 7. No shame in giving up a dinger to Manny in the first. Plenty of game left after that. When he choked running at 3rd base, he was not the same the rest of the way.

Pedro wiggled out of a big jam in the 1st,and made pitches innings 2-7.

It is not over until it is over, but no one knows better than the Sox. That's why they continue to press and why they probably take Woody to the woodshed tonight.

They are as hot, lucky and destined as any team I can think of.
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They can take Woody to the woodshed if it'll make them happy, but Marquis is pitching tonight. (Hey, I know we've been light on pitching all year, but we've got more than three! By the way, Lowe's pitching for ya'll. Try to stay in the game, Dad Wink )

Our pitching has been marginal all year, saved by our defense and offense. Offense! (slaps forehead) That's what's missing!
Ah, but Marquis also made a bonehead baserunning error in the NLCS which was pivotal in an ultimate loss.

The "official story" is the 'No' v. 'Go' confusion, although I'm not buying it. I'm thinking they just shouldn't have given the pitchers those frontal lobotomies.

I'm thinking Baserunning For Pitchers: A Basics Course will be on the ST curriculum now.
Both LCS were emotional, hard fought, and draining --- each in their own way. We've seemed to come through showing the negative effects, but the Sox, however, were energized.

I am disappointed the country isn't seeing the team that played this season; it would have been a heck of a series and great fun.

Wonder if anybody checked under the home bench for those pods? Wink
Suppan was a high level position player in high school here in Ca., I believe he still holds his school's record for HR's. He should not be unfamiliar with the "basics" of baserunning.

We have a baserunning thread going in the "Coach's Tips" forum. Tips, ideas, and special instructions from all would be welcome. As I mentioned in the start up post over there, bad baserunninjg is everywhere, especially at the Major League level.
The World series had allready been played between the 2 best teams in baseball.

It was the ALCS between The Yankee's and the Boston Red Sox!

The American league knows how to play baseball. Because they play BIG BALL, in a big way, as opposed to the national league's "SMALL BALL"! Big Grin
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