RJM, the dream is only dead if your son decides it is. Now, you and your son are both going through such a trying time. The unknown can be so tough to face. However, hope springs eternal.
RJM, in 1985,I was injured playing ball. It was bad and the prospects were slim that I'd play again. All I have ever been is a ball player. I thought of stuff I'd never believe now. My little brother knew what was up and gave me a good butt chewing. Then, I got to work. In that time I learned about things I didn't want to know about. Arthrograms, CTI Braces, Biodex machines, you name it and I went thorugh it. In short, I played again and then I played at a very high level again. RJM, I was never the same but the fire inside of me had to try. Had I failed knowing I gave it my best, I would have been good with that. I was blessed and so was able to pick it up. I still feel pain. I wonder what some of the medications like Celebrex have done to me over the long haul. I wouldn't change a thing. My blessing was that I got to know the real me. The me that knew when I was lying to myself and the me that knew I couldn't give in.
RJM, your son needs you now and I know you hurt as well. My Dad did. I wish the best for you and want you to know that you and your son will be in our prayers.
RJM, please take a look at the video. It will be in the upper right hand corner. The Dad and I played high school ball together. I coach this young man in camps from the time he was 6 or 7. He still believe he is going to play basketball this year. December 15 is the date he will learn his fate.
Dustin McGuire Story
RJM - Keep the faith, brother. There is a plan for RJMjr's life. And, there is still time for him to accomplish great things. Baseball will be a part of his life as long as he wants it to be.
Hang in there. GED10DaD
Hang in there. GED10DaD
My heart goes out to you RJM, and to your son. But like other posters here said, it can be done, if he wants to do it. I was recently told by someone here that
"this is why we have our sons play sports" - to learn to have the discipline and strength to face their problems and make things happen for themselves.
Your son will come through this - and learn so much from the experience!
Blessings to you both - mikamom
"this is why we have our sons play sports" - to learn to have the discipline and strength to face their problems and make things happen for themselves.
Your son will come through this - and learn so much from the experience!
Blessings to you both - mikamom
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RJM, I am so sorry to here of the new injury. My son has gone through several serious injuries and battled back. True it is late in his high school career and may end it but there is still hope. I know it looks bleak but it is not impossible. Hopefully after some time you can sit down with your son and come up with a plan that fits him. I wish you the best of luck, you and your son will be in our thoughts and prayers.
Thanks for all the positive responses. There are reasons his options will be very limited. In our family we place a very high value on education. Any baseball decision would have been 80% academic and 20% baseball. Baseball was going to be used to get accepted to the best college possible. I'm not going to pay 50K a year for an inferior academic situation just so my son can say he played college baseball. He doesn't want to play in a situation that is not competitive. There are plenty of weak baseball programs I'm sure he could walk on. If he wanted to pound his chest he played D1, get an inferior education and get pounded every game he could go to Coppin State.
JuCo will not be an option. In the northeast the higher academic colleges look down their noses at JuCo's. There's no sense in going to a JuCo if it's not going to get him into the right college.
The ranked D3's are either high academic colleges he would need baseball to get him accepted or they don't meet the expected academic standards of the family. The reality of D1 is if the program takes any walk ons at all, it's more likely to be a late blooming pitcher who had a big senior year of high school than a position player coming off two serious injuries.
It is most likely my son will attend one of two major universities. They will provide an excellent education. They are in major conferences. While there were people who, before the injuries thought my son had the potential to develop into a player who could possibly play there, I believe it's now highly unlikely after missing almost a year of development and walking on. Keep in mind he'll only be starting rehab when his high school season starts.
This statement isn't meant to be a "can't do." I'm not going to sacrifice academics and/or spend money needlessly for baseball. If he's going to earn his living outside baseball, baseball can't be a priority for college. I want him in a college situation that is most likely to open doors (reputation and alumni network) when he graduates.
JuCo will not be an option. In the northeast the higher academic colleges look down their noses at JuCo's. There's no sense in going to a JuCo if it's not going to get him into the right college.
The ranked D3's are either high academic colleges he would need baseball to get him accepted or they don't meet the expected academic standards of the family. The reality of D1 is if the program takes any walk ons at all, it's more likely to be a late blooming pitcher who had a big senior year of high school than a position player coming off two serious injuries.
It is most likely my son will attend one of two major universities. They will provide an excellent education. They are in major conferences. While there were people who, before the injuries thought my son had the potential to develop into a player who could possibly play there, I believe it's now highly unlikely after missing almost a year of development and walking on. Keep in mind he'll only be starting rehab when his high school season starts.
This statement isn't meant to be a "can't do." I'm not going to sacrifice academics and/or spend money needlessly for baseball. If he's going to earn his living outside baseball, baseball can't be a priority for college. I want him in a college situation that is most likely to open doors (reputation and alumni network) when he graduates.
RJM,
That sounds like your family and son have your goals for him and education is top priority.I am most positive your son will get an outstanding education.Sounds like you are correct in assuming the baseball option may not happen.
Coming back from injuries are hard.Back to back are almost hard to imagine.Took my son 6 months to be released and he is in college playing,If it would of happened to him during HS he wouldnt be where he is now.
I wish your familythe best.All of our sons will be hanging up their cleats eventually.There have been many threads where posters have talked about how happy their sons are after they move on.
That sounds like your family and son have your goals for him and education is top priority.I am most positive your son will get an outstanding education.Sounds like you are correct in assuming the baseball option may not happen.
Coming back from injuries are hard.Back to back are almost hard to imagine.Took my son 6 months to be released and he is in college playing,If it would of happened to him during HS he wouldnt be where he is now.
I wish your familythe best.All of our sons will be hanging up their cleats eventually.There have been many threads where posters have talked about how happy their sons are after they move on.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
In our family we places a very high value on education. Any baseball decision would have been 80% academic and 20% baseball.
You have a smart family RJM! In the end 95% of players give up the dream at the end of HS, and even more post college. Best of luck to you and your boy in his college search.
RJM; sorry to hear about the tough break, on top of the one he is just coming off of. Best wishes to your son... you never know where this may lead, winds and forces unseen have a way of directing ships into harbors they never intended to visit.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
Thanks for all the positive responses. There are reasons his options will be very limited. In our family we place a very high value on education. Any baseball decision would have been 80% academic and 20% baseball. Baseball was going to be used to get accepted to the best college possible. I'm not going to pay 50K a year for an inferior academic situation just so my son can say he played college baseball. He doesn't want to play in a situation that is not competitive. There are plenty of weak baseball programs I'm sure he could walk on. If he wanted to pound his chest he played D1, get an inferior education and get pounded every game he could go to Coppin State.
JuCo will not be an option. In the northeast the higher academic colleges look down their noses at JuCo's. There's no sense in going to a JuCo if it's not going to get him into the right college.
The ranked D3's are either high academic colleges he would need baseball to get him accepted or they don't meet the expected academic standards of the family. The reality of D1 is if the program takes any walk ons at all, it's more likely to be a late blooming pitcher who had a big senior year of high school than a position player coming off two serious injuries.
It is most likely my son will attend one of two major universities. They will provide an excellent education. They are in major conferences. While there were people who, before the injuries thought my son had the potential to develop into a player who could possibly play there, I believe it's now highly unlikely after missing almost a year of development and walking on. Keep in mind he'll only be starting rehab when his high school season starts.
This statement isn't meant to be a "can't do." I'm not going to sacrifice academics and/or spend money needlessly for baseball. If he's going to earn his living outside baseball, baseball can't be a priority for college. I want him in a college situation that is most likely to open doors (reputation and alumni network) when he graduates.
I understand your commitment to academics RJM, but it is still a choice. Titling this thread "The Dream Dies" is really a decision based more on a narrow intersection that you placed in front of your son combining a high percentage of high level academics and a small part baseball. The dream of playing college baseball and possibly playing quite well is still very much a possibility for your son, you will just need to open your mind to other options. Many players here have had their first choice not work out for them but have succeeded elsewhere.
My son has been BB free since graduating over a year ago. He hasn't picked up a BB since his last game despite offers to play at a very high level.
I can tell you his foray into the corporate world is every bit as exciting as D1 BB he played.
To us it is what it was all about ! Seeing him move forward in life can be very rewarding.
I can tell you his foray into the corporate world is every bit as exciting as D1 BB he played.
To us it is what it was all about ! Seeing him move forward in life can be very rewarding.
That's a tough break with the injuries coming at the time where most exposure happens..RJM..Even if your son does not continue his playing career in college, he can at least take with him the experience of balancing a schedule and maintaining his grades while playing multiple sports, as well as teamwork and competing and working to do the best you can to reach a goal.
My son had opportunities his junior year to showcase and pursure college baseball but he chose not to. While at first, I was a little disappointed he wasn't gonna continue playing because he certainly had the tools, it wasn't his dream and as soon as I absorbed that in, it was no big deal.
Funny thing was about a month ago he calls me up from school and told me at the facilities he went to pitch some baseballs and was still hitting 80mph on the gun. While this certainly won't get out college hitters unless he got real good secondary pitches, it wasn't too shabby for someone who hasn't conditioned nor picked up a single baseball in three years. I told him that boat has sailed..LOL
Although injury didn't derail him, he wanted education to be THE priority in college which is what I believe you want for your son.
Even though he didn't play collegiate ball, what he took to college with him is the experience of balancing a demanding schedule and the discipline that he learned playing two varsity sports in HS.
Today, he's pulling honors while holding a job on campus. My belief is without the learning experience from HS and balancing academics and athletics, adjusting to college life and forming ways he will be in adult life is a positive. In a way, playing baseball has shaped the person he's becoming.
Bottom line is that he's doing what he chose to do, not what I dreamed for him to do. We always read on these boards that kids need to learn to make decisions for themselves, cut the apron strings, no daddyball etc.. and this is why.
Perhaps there is still a window of opportunity for your son to get the academic and athletic fit you both want since he is a solid ballplayer, but even if the priority shifts to primarily academics, his athletic experience will only make him better prepared as he goes off to college.
His will and desire to continue playing will really be tested so whatever the future brings, best of luck to RJMjr in pursuing the whatever it is he wants to do whether that includes baseball or not.
My son had opportunities his junior year to showcase and pursure college baseball but he chose not to. While at first, I was a little disappointed he wasn't gonna continue playing because he certainly had the tools, it wasn't his dream and as soon as I absorbed that in, it was no big deal.
Funny thing was about a month ago he calls me up from school and told me at the facilities he went to pitch some baseballs and was still hitting 80mph on the gun. While this certainly won't get out college hitters unless he got real good secondary pitches, it wasn't too shabby for someone who hasn't conditioned nor picked up a single baseball in three years. I told him that boat has sailed..LOL
Although injury didn't derail him, he wanted education to be THE priority in college which is what I believe you want for your son.
Even though he didn't play collegiate ball, what he took to college with him is the experience of balancing a demanding schedule and the discipline that he learned playing two varsity sports in HS.
Today, he's pulling honors while holding a job on campus. My belief is without the learning experience from HS and balancing academics and athletics, adjusting to college life and forming ways he will be in adult life is a positive. In a way, playing baseball has shaped the person he's becoming.
Bottom line is that he's doing what he chose to do, not what I dreamed for him to do. We always read on these boards that kids need to learn to make decisions for themselves, cut the apron strings, no daddyball etc.. and this is why.
Perhaps there is still a window of opportunity for your son to get the academic and athletic fit you both want since he is a solid ballplayer, but even if the priority shifts to primarily academics, his athletic experience will only make him better prepared as he goes off to college.
His will and desire to continue playing will really be tested so whatever the future brings, best of luck to RJMjr in pursuing the whatever it is he wants to do whether that includes baseball or not.
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quote:Originally posted by Sdlefty:
RJM, this is a tough one but may be a huge positive experience for you son. He may be a great coach in the future, has he considered that.
RJM - I am sorry for your boy's injury; one in a season is bad, but two is just beyond the pale. It sounds, though, like you have already laid out a solid contingency plan; a lot of families never do.
If he still loves the game the same way (after things calm down) you may want to suggest to him that he consider coaching the "young-uns" (5-8).
Good for a lot of reasons; they can give quality instruction (not too long ago they were getting it), the kids see someone who has "made it" (good to remember that from a 6 year old's perspective, these guys are walking gods), and it teaches the coaches the importance of giving back.
It might be too early to have that conversation, but I hope you'll put it in your back pocket. Quality instruction is important for all kids "right out of the box."
Again, I am very sorry for your boy's injury.
RJM
That's a tough break and if it happens to my son we would probobly do the same and just get on with life, BUT. It really dosen't have to be the end of the dream if it truly is a dream to play college ball. You know that.
That's a tough break and if it happens to my son we would probobly do the same and just get on with life, BUT. It really dosen't have to be the end of the dream if it truly is a dream to play college ball. You know that.
RJM,
Your post yesterday (about the reasons why your son's options are limited) was top-notch-- crystal clear, takes the long view, and makes a lot of sense.
Your post yesterday (about the reasons why your son's options are limited) was top-notch-- crystal clear, takes the long view, and makes a lot of sense.
Tough situation. Maybe things will take a path that will surprise you. It's often darkest before dawn.
Any insights regarding the situations that led to the injuries? Sliding? Also, what kind of baseball agility drill separates shoulders? Always interested in the forensics of things and whether they might have been preventable.
Any insights regarding the situations that led to the injuries? Sliding? Also, what kind of baseball agility drill separates shoulders? Always interested in the forensics of things and whether they might have been preventable.
Good news: Surgery was successful. Complete recovery expected.
Bad news: Can't play senior year. He's had his entire senior year of sports wiped out along with college baseball.
Bad news: Can't play senior year. He's had his entire senior year of sports wiped out along with college baseball.
RJM:
You probably are right in your assessment regarding the likelihood of your son playing college baseball. And if it is the end, so be it. It happens to every player at some point. My middle son had college baseball offers, but none at schools that met his academic objectives and, as a National Merit Scholar, he received more money than the full cost of attendance, something that no baseball scholarship could ever match. He is now is law school at the University of San Diego and doing very well, so it worked out best for him.
All that said, there is a potential avenue for your son if he is not quite ready to give up the baseball. My son followed this path in the hope the right situation would develop, but it did not. But you never know.
Your son could rehab this spring and play for a summer team that undertakes a tough schedule. I have seen plenty of schools take players as a result of outstanding play the summer after their senior season. Often, these players get larger scholarships at that late date than they would have earlier.
Either way, I am sorry to hear of you son's injury and I wish him only the best.
You probably are right in your assessment regarding the likelihood of your son playing college baseball. And if it is the end, so be it. It happens to every player at some point. My middle son had college baseball offers, but none at schools that met his academic objectives and, as a National Merit Scholar, he received more money than the full cost of attendance, something that no baseball scholarship could ever match. He is now is law school at the University of San Diego and doing very well, so it worked out best for him.
All that said, there is a potential avenue for your son if he is not quite ready to give up the baseball. My son followed this path in the hope the right situation would develop, but it did not. But you never know.
Your son could rehab this spring and play for a summer team that undertakes a tough schedule. I have seen plenty of schools take players as a result of outstanding play the summer after their senior season. Often, these players get larger scholarships at that late date than they would have earlier.
Either way, I am sorry to hear of you son's injury and I wish him only the best.
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Great news on the surgery!
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Great news on the surgery!
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RJM, yes that is great news! Now for the rehab and recovery. It's a long process but every day will be one day closer to being healed!
quote:jemaz posted: Your son could rehab this spring and play for a summer team that undertakes a tough schedule. I have seen plenty of schools take players as a result of outstanding play the summer after their senior season. Often, these players get larger scholarships at that late date than they would have earlier.
So true Jemaz. I've also seen a few guys get offers after graduation, one a year out of high school, after rehab.
Hi RJM,
I hope you don't mind my asking, but what are your son's views in all of this? What are his goals and dreams? Where does he want to go to college? How badly does he want to play college ball? What is important to him?
I'm sure that you only want the best for him, but at some point I think it’s important that we, as parents, allow our children to follow their dreams...not ours. If his includes college ball, it can be done without sacrificing academically or financially.
I hope you don't mind my asking, but what are your son's views in all of this? What are his goals and dreams? Where does he want to go to college? How badly does he want to play college ball? What is important to him?
I'm sure that you only want the best for him, but at some point I think it’s important that we, as parents, allow our children to follow their dreams...not ours. If his includes college ball, it can be done without sacrificing academically or financially.
Regardless of what my son's dreams are, I'm the one cutting the check. That check could be in excess of $200,000 over four years. I'm paying for an education, not dreams. Baseball is a bonus. He's not a MLB prospect. We thought we could make education at a well regarded college and baseball (high end D3 to mid major D1) mix. The injury killed that. By the time he even starts rehab he will not have been on the field for almost a year. His future is in his education, not baseball. He will not attend Bull Chips U, nor will I pay for it just so he can say he played college baseball.
Until the two injuries some of the top academic colleges in the country wanted to see him play. They've all lost interest. He won't get into those schools without baseball. But he will attend a quality academic college. Just so you understand where academics fit in our family, it's not about going to college. It's about going to the best college possible. And then grad school.
Until the two injuries some of the top academic colleges in the country wanted to see him play. They've all lost interest. He won't get into those schools without baseball. But he will attend a quality academic college. Just so you understand where academics fit in our family, it's not about going to college. It's about going to the best college possible. And then grad school.
The rest of us can go to Bull Chips U...since we don't care about our son's education like some others do...
I'm not going to judge what's in the best interest of someone else's kids. I know what's in the best interest of mine. Most importantly I'm happy the surgery was called successful. He was fortunate to get one of the top ortho guys in the area. The doc also operates on pro athletes.quote:Originally posted by floridafan:
The rest of us can go to Bull Chips U...since we don't care about our son's education like some others do...
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Nuthin' wrong with Bull Chips U. I've only heard good things about it. In fact the only criticism I've heard is that some of the graduates are a bit disappointed by the way they are handed their diploma upon graduating...
...you've all heard the joke certainly.
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Nuthin' wrong with Bull Chips U. I've only heard good things about it. In fact the only criticism I've heard is that some of the graduates are a bit disappointed by the way they are handed their diploma upon graduating...
...you've all heard the joke certainly.
- BS=Bullsh:t
MS=More Sh:t
PhD=Piled higher & Deeper
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Since you are already paying the $200,000, why can't he go to a juco for a year or two. The cost is negligble and he can see if he can play at the college level. You don't even have to send over the transcripts if you do not want to, since you are planning on spending the money on the full four years anyway. You keep saying that he just wants to say that he played college ball. Maybe he doesn't want to just say it, he may just want to play it. You are writing him off much too early.
quote:Originally posted by TxMom:
Hi RJM,
I hope you don't mind my asking, but what are your son's views in all of this? What are his goals and dreams? Where does he want to go to college? How badly does he want to play college ball? What is important to him?
I'm sure that you only want the best for him, but at some point I think it’s important that we, as parents, allow our children to follow their dreams...not ours. If his includes college ball, it can be done without sacrificing academically or financially.
Wonderful post.
I have been fighting to stay out of this thread but I couldn't stand it anymore.
For starters, my number one concern here is RJM's son. That is no doubt a setback and I am sending my good wishes and prayers for the young man to receive a full and speedy recovery.
That is as far as I am willing to go however.
RJM - arrogance, condescension, and insensitivity are apparent as usual. We are sorry your blue-blooded, country-club definitions for success have apparently run its course (sarcasim off). I wonder if your son feels that way because it seems you are the one who has killed the dream. In fact, it seems like you are the one who determines what his dreams are and that to me seems.... fill in the blank...
You have also offended our JUCO parents here for the umpteenth time. No sensitivity or understanding whatsover. JUCO's are not for dummies. You can be admitted to the top academic institutions in this country after attending a JUCO - albeit maybe not some/all IVY schools. Note - English 101 is the same at the JUCO as it is at Harvard - it just doesn't sound as impressive at the "club."
I don't expect your son to attend Notre Dame (see the movie Rudy for example for ideas on how to nurture a dream) but what about USC as in the Trojans - is that school for dummies? I know one young man who spent one year at a JUCO and is now starring for USC's baseball team. I'll bet Duke is on your son's list and I am pretty sure they accept JUCO's. Either way, that is but one of dozens of options to keep top academic and athletic dreams alive.
What is most offensive is it probably didn't occur to you what deldad posted in this thread about dreams "dying." His dream was snuffed out - literally and permanently. His son was a big leaguer at age 22 for the Angels and had one of the most promising careers possible. Won his last game for the Angels and on his way home was killed by a drunk driver. That is called having your dream "die" so you might want to consider your thread titles more carefully next time. I am also willing to bet deldad would swap a dislocated shoulder 1000 times over in lieu of death.
I have sympathy for your son but little tolerance for the type of drama-queen drivel espoused here.
Dreams dying? There is only one way for that to happen and a dislocated shoulder is not one of them sir.
CD,
Thank you for posting what I'm sure many of us were thinking.
Self righteousness wrapped in self pity. There are probably ten thousand high school seniors who will be playing their last games this year but thankfully they will be able to chase new dreams.
Thank you for posting what I'm sure many of us were thinking.
Self righteousness wrapped in self pity. There are probably ten thousand high school seniors who will be playing their last games this year but thankfully they will be able to chase new dreams.
Once again you're being judgemental. What is right or not right for my son may not be what's right or not right for anyone else's kid. We're all responsible for our own kids. When I give advice on this board I quantify what the poster is saying, not just provide a fit that works for my son. One size doesn't fit all. My son wasn't in the game to get a pro contract. He was in the game because he enjoys playing and to help him get into the best academic situation possible. The sad thing is he doesn't even get to play his senior year of high school. He also had his other sport wiped out for senior year.quote:You have also offended our JUCO parents here for the umpteenth time.
I see bringing Deldad's son into this conversation as a cheapshot unworthy of the son, Deldad and the rest of his family and friends.
I figured some posters wouldn't get what is best for one kid is not what's best for another and pile on. You would have got it if your comprehended the parameters and how we value education in our family. I had a higher opinion of you than the post you just provided. I thought you could have done better. I was wrong.
RJM-
I don't know how the JC system on the east coast differs from here in California? I do know that the chances of my 2012 daughter attending a JC for the first two years appears to be pretty strong at this point, but we'll see what happens? I do know that it's not where you start, but where you finish. In the end, her degree will be from XYZ University, not from the local Junior College.
If your son's dream is to still play baseball in college, hopefully you'll consider allowing him to go with a route that you hadn't planned on originally? If it's not acceptable, perhaps it's not a true dream? Either way, I'm hoping for the best for your son, and I'm happy to hear that his surgery was successful!
I don't know how the JC system on the east coast differs from here in California? I do know that the chances of my 2012 daughter attending a JC for the first two years appears to be pretty strong at this point, but we'll see what happens? I do know that it's not where you start, but where you finish. In the end, her degree will be from XYZ University, not from the local Junior College.
If your son's dream is to still play baseball in college, hopefully you'll consider allowing him to go with a route that you hadn't planned on originally? If it's not acceptable, perhaps it's not a true dream? Either way, I'm hoping for the best for your son, and I'm happy to hear that his surgery was successful!
quote:I don't expect your son to attend Notre Dame (see the movie Rudy for example for ideas on how to nurture a dream) but what about USC as in the Trojans - is that school for dummies? I know one young man who spent one year at a JUCO and is now starring for USC's baseball team. I'll bet Duke is on your son's list and I am pretty sure they accept JUCO's. Either way, that is but one of dozens of options to keep top academic and athletic dreams alive.
CD:Where have you been USC is school of spoiled children.LOL.
I think it's fantastic someone's kid went to a JuCo and then USC. It's great that's what was best for your kid. I applaud it. Of course there's an assumption every kid on this board can play at that level of ball. It's a mistake many of the posters on this board make when putting down others and dishing out advice. And the last time I checked USC was not in the northeast so it doesn't fit my son's needs. And anyone who advises JuCo's as an avenue to the better academic instituations in the northeast is making assumptions and hadn't done their homework before dishing out the insults.
I apologize my family has had to make some decisions because my son is not the baseball player CD's and Fan's kids are. My son is not a pro prospect. I will not sell my son short academically so he can play a little more ball. Had baseball fit into the equation it would have been fantastic. My son was going to use the game to get a better education. Now he's going to get the best education he can without ball. It boggles my mind some would ridicule my view on the importance of education and that I have to defend this position.
I apologize my family has had to make some decisions because my son is not the baseball player CD's and Fan's kids are. My son is not a pro prospect. I will not sell my son short academically so he can play a little more ball. Had baseball fit into the equation it would have been fantastic. My son was going to use the game to get a better education. Now he's going to get the best education he can without ball. It boggles my mind some would ridicule my view on the importance of education and that I have to defend this position.
I had big plans for my oldest sons life. I had it all planned out for him. He was going to go to this school and he was going to do this and that. It all ended when he showed up on my door step at 1am with all his belongings and said "It was your dream not mine."
Now he is doing exactly what he wanted to do all along. He is so happy and because of that so am I. In the end I had to come to the realization that it was his life to live and I could either support him and allow him to be a man or fight him and have no relationship with him.
In the end every child will follow THEIR own path. No matter what we want and how much we think we know they are their own person and have their own dreams. There comes a day when they realize they are the only ones that can pave that path and they are the one with the power to do it not us.
I wish your son well and hope it works out for him. But your not nearly as in control of this as you think you are judging from your posts. And with each day that passes by you are less and less in control of what you want to be.
But he is your son and its your call on how you deal with this. If he is in agreement with you and is on board with the plan you have I am sure he will be just fine with this. If he is being pushed into this decision by you because you have a plan for him then I fear you are in for a rude awakening. And the sad thing is his dream would have actually been cut short by you and not this injury.
Good luck.
Now he is doing exactly what he wanted to do all along. He is so happy and because of that so am I. In the end I had to come to the realization that it was his life to live and I could either support him and allow him to be a man or fight him and have no relationship with him.
In the end every child will follow THEIR own path. No matter what we want and how much we think we know they are their own person and have their own dreams. There comes a day when they realize they are the only ones that can pave that path and they are the one with the power to do it not us.
I wish your son well and hope it works out for him. But your not nearly as in control of this as you think you are judging from your posts. And with each day that passes by you are less and less in control of what you want to be.
But he is your son and its your call on how you deal with this. If he is in agreement with you and is on board with the plan you have I am sure he will be just fine with this. If he is being pushed into this decision by you because you have a plan for him then I fear you are in for a rude awakening. And the sad thing is his dream would have actually been cut short by you and not this injury.
Good luck.
It's all dreams. Every second of this. Since we can't see the future, it spins out before us as a 'dream' - the education our kids might get, the friends they might make, the wife or husband they will one day encounter, the grandchildren, the baseball, the musical instrument, the skill with numbers or languages, the fate of our nation in a crazy world, and where our kids will fit into everything. And on and on and on......
It's all dreams. Every last bit of it. They change, they meander, they twist and turn, but I'm not sure they ever die.
It's all dreams. Every last bit of it. They change, they meander, they twist and turn, but I'm not sure they ever die.
i for one was not offended by rjm's post. i thought we could come here and air things out,get them off our chest so to speak. my son was a cc player as well.
jc's in the northeast are more CC's they offer great opurtunity's to continue education. some cater to the industry in the community. can you get into harvard or dartmouth from one? anythings possable, but not the recomended path.
things have a way of working themselves out. inspite of our plans.
rjm, i would take a look at uconn avery point.
jc's in the northeast are more CC's they offer great opurtunity's to continue education. some cater to the industry in the community. can you get into harvard or dartmouth from one? anythings possable, but not the recomended path.
things have a way of working themselves out. inspite of our plans.
rjm, i would take a look at uconn avery point.
After that post about deldad, RJM needs to just go away - voluntarily or otherwise- but just go away.
I'm certain his son would be ashamed of what his father wrote.
I'm certain his son would be ashamed of what his father wrote.
Nice post, CD.
Add me to the pile.
I got it, even though I attended JUCO, and graduated at Bull Chips U on academic probation.
But, I'm wondering if the dream that died was the dream to get the $200,000 education for free on a 'full ride' baseball scholarship.
Add me to the pile.
quote:I'm paying for an education, not dreams. Baseball is a bonus. He's not a MLB prospect.His future is in his education, not baseball. He will not attend Bull Chips U, nor will I pay for it just so he can say he played college baseball.
quote:His future is in his education, not baseball.
I got it, even though I attended JUCO, and graduated at Bull Chips U on academic probation.
quote:We thought we could make education at a well regarded college and baseball (high end D3 to mid major D1) mix. The injury killed that.
But, I'm wondering if the dream that died was the dream to get the $200,000 education for free on a 'full ride' baseball scholarship.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
I think it's fantastic someone's kid went to a JuCo and then USC. It's great that's what was best for your kid. I applaud it. Of course there's an assumption every kid on this board can play at that level of ball. It's a mistake many of the posters on this board make when putting down others and dishing out advice. And the last time I checked USC was not in the northeast so it doesn't fit my son's needs. And anyone who advises JuCo's as an avenue to the better academic instituations in the northeast is making assumptions and hadn't done their homework before dishing out the insults.
I apologize my family has had to make some decisions because my son is not the baseball player CD's and Fan's kids are. My son is not a pro prospect. I will not sell my son short academically so he can play a little more ball. Had baseball fit into the equation it would have been fantastic. My son was going to use the game to get a better education. Now he's going to get the best education he can without ball. It boggles my mind some would ridicule my view on the importance of education and that I have to defend this position.
I don't think that anyone is disagreeing with your view regarding the importance of education. The problem that everyone is having is that you titled the thread, "The Dream Dies". I'm sure that you know that most of the poster's sons in this forum have had to overcome or are overcoming obstacles as we speak. They may not be pro prospects either, but they are fighting in the weight room, running extra conditioning, watching film, etc. to keep their dream alive. If it means going to juco, that is just part of getting on track. Your definition of "your son's" baseball dream was far to precise.
Based on your previous posts, if you had titled the thread "The 20 percent collegiate baseball dream that I had for my son died", it would have been far less controversial.