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Favre = One tough hombre.
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Takes a beating and keeps on ticking!
quote:Originally posted by MN-Mom:
Favre = One tough hombre.
Julie
No doubt about it. He has taken a beating this game. Very impressive.
Live by the sword...
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh...
'S okay, we still love ya, Bret.
'S okay, we still love ya, Bret.
Hope he doesn't have to think about that one for the rest of his life!
What an ugly end to a great game. Questionable calls, reviews, penalties on every play. Too bad.
quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
What an ugly end to a great game. Questionable calls, reviews, penalties on every play. Too bad.
Which calls are you saying were questionable?
The interference call was boarder line uncatchable. On the catch, the ball clearly hit the ground.
And, no I wasn't for Minnesota. I was for the Saints. It's just a bad way to win or lose a good game like this.
Manning is going to torch the Saints defense.
And, no I wasn't for Minnesota. I was for the Saints. It's just a bad way to win or lose a good game like this.
Manning is going to torch the Saints defense.
What a bummer. But Favre is still the toughest guy on the field. Congrats to the Saints.
I see what you're saying but I think they got them correct overall. On the interference it has to be called because he came so early that's what made it look like it was uncatchable. If he doesn't interfere when he did then it might be uncatchable but the way it was you can't truly tell.
I think it was a catch because the ball can touch the ground on a completion if it's shown to be controlled. He didn't have a typical definition of control since he didn't have his hands around it but his arms did secure it to his body before it touched the ground.
The questionable call to me was the toss sweep by the Saints - that was just stupid.
I think it was a catch because the ball can touch the ground on a completion if it's shown to be controlled. He didn't have a typical definition of control since he didn't have his hands around it but his arms did secure it to his body before it touched the ground.
The questionable call to me was the toss sweep by the Saints - that was just stupid.
That was one of the hardest hitting gamers I have ever seen - both sides.
I have to agree about the rough calls in OT...on the 4th down play, I thought that should have been ruled short upon replay (although a riot would have ensued). I also thought the interference was bad (incidental contact at worst, and probably uncatchable) and I also thought that other pass hit the ground. I didn't care who won, but I did think every 50/50 call went for the Saints in OT.
HOWEVER...had the Vikings not turned the ball over 5 times OR had Brett Favre made the expected veteran play at the end of regulation, this game never goes to OT. So, in the end, the Vikings lost this game, not refs....it's amazing how that works out, isn't it?
HOWEVER...had the Vikings not turned the ball over 5 times OR had Brett Favre made the expected veteran play at the end of regulation, this game never goes to OT. So, in the end, the Vikings lost this game, not refs....it's amazing how that works out, isn't it?
Get ready to hear non-stop "Manning talk" for 2 weeks now given Archie's Saints ties and Payton's Colts. It will be enough to make you sick.... 
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I think he had control (trapped against his body) until the very end, but by that point his knee had already touched the turf and that is when the question of control is determined. I thought the ref crew got it right.
I'm with the rest of you...as much as I was pulling for Favre I was surprised with him throwing that last game changing interception. I would not have expected such an experienced veteran to take such a risk...especially since they would have been within Longwell's range had Favre merely tucked it in and managed to gain a few yards on the ground.
Oh well...there's always ice fishing!
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- "I also thought that other pass hit the ground."
I think he had control (trapped against his body) until the very end, but by that point his knee had already touched the turf and that is when the question of control is determined. I thought the ref crew got it right.
I'm with the rest of you...as much as I was pulling for Favre I was surprised with him throwing that last game changing interception. I would not have expected such an experienced veteran to take such a risk...especially since they would have been within Longwell's range had Favre merely tucked it in and managed to gain a few yards on the ground.
Oh well...there's always ice fishing!
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He is still the same old Favre--trying to do too much-- he should have tucked it in on the last play, run for as much as he could and let the kicker do his thing---if he doesn't make the kick they go to OT
quote:Originally posted by MN-Mom:
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh...
'S okay, we still love ya, Bret.
MN-Mom, There were a lot of smiles on the faces of your neighbor State to the East. Now another team can watch him sit on the fence about retirement and hold that team hostage during the draft and FA portions of the year.
Vikings played a sloppy game and I think that he didn't help their cause, but he certainly did a great job in getting them there.
I think it's time for him to retire.
As far as the superbowl matchup, Jets vs. Vikings would have brought more revenue to Miami, better hyped up game for the media and locals as the Dolphin fans just hate those Jets.
I think it's time for him to retire.
As far as the superbowl matchup, Jets vs. Vikings would have brought more revenue to Miami, better hyped up game for the media and locals as the Dolphin fans just hate those Jets.
The TV revenue wanted Favre vs Manning
They now get Brees vs Manning which to me is just as good
TPM
The Super Bowl patrons/ticket buyers are not Miami locals--they come from around the country thus the Miami hatred for the Jets does not really enter the picture
They now get Brees vs Manning which to me is just as good
TPM
The Super Bowl patrons/ticket buyers are not Miami locals--they come from around the country thus the Miami hatred for the Jets does not really enter the picture
The Vikings turned the ball over twice in their red zone. They turned it over in the Saints red zone. They had too many men on the field (stupid penalty) and then turned the ball over when there was an opportunity to kick a game winning field goal.quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
What an ugly end to a great game. Questionable calls, reviews, penalties on every play. Too bad.
The Vikings fumbled the ball six times. That's Lions football, not championship football. They were -4 in turnovers. The stats show a long history of -3 kills a team's chances of winning.
Had the Vikings played winning football and not made mistakes in the red zone they would have won at least 34-21. But as Charlie Jones (former NBC commentator) once said, "If it's and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."
Attention folks ... Drew Brees has the best passing stats in the NFL over the past four years.quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
Get ready to hear non-stop "Manning talk" for 2 weeks now given Archie's Saints ties and Payton's Colts. It will be enough to make you sick....
The local revenue is not affected by the Super Bowl participants. The Super Bowl is a corporate social party. It sells out. The tv ratings are affected by who plays. A lot of marginal fans would have tuned out the game if the Jets were playing. Their brand of ball is boring to the average fan. The offense plays not to lose and waits for the defense to make things happen.quote:As far as the superbowl matchup, Jets vs. Vikings would have brought more revenue to Miami, better hyped up game for the media and locals as the Dolphin fans just hate those Jets.
The marquee team matchup is Colts-Saints. The hype matchup would have been Favre-Manning. But neither of these guys have anything on Brees statistically. If the Saints win you're going to start hearing Brees' name along with the greats. He's a well kept secret.
Far and away the worst call of the game was the OT coin toss. Everyone knows that it ALWAYS comes up tails.
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A secret no longer! You might even call him "Fab" Brees..and his work is not done!
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- "He's a well kept secret."
A secret no longer! You might even call him "Fab" Brees..and his work is not done!
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I think the two best teams won this weekend for the best Superbowl. No one likes a weak Superbowl and I hope this will be like the MN-NO game.
GO Saints!!
GO Saints!!
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
As far as the superbowl matchup, Jets vs. Vikings would have brought more revenue to Miami, better hyped up game for the media and locals as the Dolphin fans just hate those Jets.
It may be a corporate party but you would have found tons of Jet fans in town that week(regardless of attending the game or not), the Dolphion fans would be out in full force to argue with them, bars restaurants you name it, that brings lots of revenue.
I did say better hyped up game for the media and locals because they dislike them so much.
I think TV wanted the old man vs. the rookie (and the team the old man played for last year). JMO.
The two teams with the best records will go to the champoinship game, can't get much better than that.
I hope it's not nearly as sloppy. While the drama of a close game existed, it was not a well played game. One team fumbling six times is not good football. Six turnovers between two teams is not good football.quote:I hope this will be like the MN-NO game.
Heard on the radio about an hour ago in a comment from Farve that he "most likely will not return" but will decide within in the next two or three weeks and not drag it on like before. He said this season took to much out of him.
Here we go again!
Here we go again!
Perhaps by the time he makes the decision he will know how many yards he needed on that last play---I cannot believe that he said he had no idea as to how many yards he needed
I hope he goes off into the sunset because I am not a fan of his anymore. I used to like him but the past 5 years or so have wore me thin. A lot of it is based on his retire or not to retire drama he likes to fool around with. But the thing that gets me most is how everyone talks about how he's such a "gamer" and he's so "competitive" and he "takes chances because he's a gunslinger" when if you look at the passes he makes another QB in the league would be vilified for.
His career has been full of what if's and poor decisions throwing the ball. There is a reason he is the all time leader in interceptions in the regular season and playoffs. If he made better decisions in the playoffs alone there is a chance he could have 2 or 3 more Super Bowls.
His career has been full of what if's and poor decisions throwing the ball. There is a reason he is the all time leader in interceptions in the regular season and playoffs. If he made better decisions in the playoffs alone there is a chance he could have 2 or 3 more Super Bowls.
That game last night was just "Favre being Favre"; I think that's what I love about him! By the way, the pass was uncatchable and the call ridiculous!