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The road to Omaha got a little easier last night when an umpire missed a trapped ball in the Stanford/Fullerton game. Stanford won 1-0 in a great pitchers duel. Replay clearly showed the ball was trapped instead of a clean catch. Surprisingly the Fullerton coach was very calm as he argued the call. Should be an interesting day in that regional.

And this isn't a dig against umpires! I'm thankful for the tough job they do. Without them our kids wouldn't be playing at any level.
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Originally posted by GoingwiththePitch:
The northern teams have definitely held their own. Does anyone know why certain regionals are aired on national TV vs. others. I would have loved to watch Maine for example beat FIU but all I could do is gametrack it.

Ken Jacobi
Author of "Going with the Pitch: Adjusting to Baseball, School, and Life as a Division I College Athlete"



Ken, I'm annoyed by the coverage as well. Florida was well on their way to eliminating Miami tonight and the Illinois-Fullerton game started while we watched the big FL teams.

BTW, I'm about 1/2 way through your book. Very good.
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Originally posted by GoingwiththePitch:
The northern teams have definitely held their own.


uh oh...

Based on the heated argument of a few years ago...

The southern teams are at a intolerable disadvantage...Immediate action needs to be taken to restore competitive balance...

1. Lengthen the season.

2. Put all the southern co-eds in heavy winter coats during southern recruiting trips.

3. Fake snow required on all southern recuiting trips.

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Slightly off topic and no intention to derail the thread, but what does an institution have to offer the NCAA to host a regional? I've heard about bids in the past, but what are they?

Is there some dollar amount they need to guarantee?

Do they have to cover some amount of the travel for the teams that attend? Do they just make a guarantee to the NCAA and they put the money in a pool to pay travel costs for all the visiting teams?

Just curious and potentially fueling the "rich get to play at home" conspiracy theory.
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Originally posted by GoingwiththePitch:
The northern teams have definitely held their own.


Ken,
Could you define "held their own"?

2-seed UConn posted big wins over Coastal and Clemson on Sunday to force a Monday showdown. They have clearly held their own, and may do more than that on Monday.

Beyond that, northern teams had a only couple first round or loser bracket wins that served only to delay their inevitable encounters with reality:

3-seed Seton Hall (1-2) had a Friday night upset of Arizona, but Arizona avenged it on Sunday to eliminate them.

4-seeds Manhattan, Princeton, and Navy (I count Navy as northern because of their conference) went two and out.

Only 4-seed Maine (1-2) actually over-performed their seed, finishing 3rd in their region. But a single win in the losers bracket isn't that big a story.

If you count Midwest schools, you can say 3-seed Kent State (2-1, playing Texas Monday) and 4-seed Illinois (reached region final) held their own, but 2-seed Creighton (1-2) performed below expectations and Wright State (0-2) played down to theirs.

Overall, pending the UConn and Kent State games on Monday, the only way you can say northern teams "held their own" is to define holding one's own as getting eliminated about when the seedings would predict. But that's basically conceding that their performance didn't change any minds.
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Originally posted by JMoff:
Slightly off topic and no intention to derail the thread, but what does an institution have to offer the NCAA to host a regional? I've heard about bids in the past, but what are they?

Schools put in financial bids to host, but the 8 top national seeds go to the cream of the crop.

Is there some dollar amount they need to guarantee?

From what I've heard, the $$ amount is just one part of the equation. The other parts being suitability of the facilities, such as press box size, seating capacity, hotel room availability, travel distance for likely opponents. Can they get three other teams that will travel "easily" who bring fans that spend $$?

Do they have to cover some amount of the travel for the teams that attend? Do they just make a guarantee to the NCAA and they put the money in a pool to pay travel costs for all the visiting teams?

Travel expenses are paid by the participating schools in the tourny. Some home teams will pay travel expenses for visiting teams during the regular season, but it's not required by the NCAA. It's an individual situation thingy.

Just curious and potentially fueling the "rich get to play at home" conspiracy theory.

Home teams obviously have an advantage, since the hosts are usually the top seeds and almost always win their regionals. I'd say the "best teams" get to play at home. I'm not saying you are wrong or there is not a better way. Not sure what the alternative could be. If there was public demand for tickets they could do the regionals at neutral sites, like hoops, but there isn't the demand.
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    "It's not the Pacific before north that disqualifies them it's the west that comes afterward!"

You're right of course. I was just fishin' for some good Beaver press. They're a good team, but I think I've seen a handful of others in the post-season that are better. I really like the Beaver's coach. I think Coach Casey is doing a great job with his program.

And here's some press from the Duckville newspaper. A good article on the Beaver's Regional win last night over a tough Georgia Bulldog team.

And as far as geography is concerned...Oregon is definitely more of a western state than a northern state. That definitely is true of the culture as well.




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bsbl247,

Congrats on the Anteaters advancing. That was a tough bracket. I love the name "Anteaters" as well as "Horned Frogs"....best nick names in college baseball. I'm sure your soon-to-be- Anteater-son is excited as well to see them pull it out and advance.

The Anteaters have the pleasure of re-playing (from 2009) the Virginia Cavaliers but it will be Charlottesville this time....and no Stephen Strasberg on the mound. If UVA proved anything in 2009, it is that an ace pitcher can be beat. This time it will be UVA with the aces. Defintely a tough task. Best of luck.
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Another congrats to the Anteaters. They were solid this year, but I did not think they were good enough to get out of that Regional. Peaking at the right time (like Stanford) is a great thing.

BTW the best college name IMO is still the "Banana Slugs"...They don't have a baseball team however.
Many props to Uconn for coming from the losers bracket to make the Super Regionals. Nothing would stand up for northeast baseball like a northern team making the final 8. No one can argue that the north is better than the south as a whole right now, but there needs to be trend-setters like Uconn who start to tilt the balance.

First came George Mason, then came the VCU's and Butler's of the basketball world. Now mid-majors make it deep into March Madness all the time. Teams will start to replicate what a school like Uconn doea ( in baseball), and soon enough every year there will be a "Uconn" or two sneaking into the College World Series.

You will very rarely get all final four teams in basketball to be mid-majors, but it is no longer rare to see a team from a smaller conference in the mix. I think the same thing is now happening in baseball. If I am a northerner and know that a school like Uconn has top of the line facilities and a real chance to make Omaha, all of a sudden I don't need to go to LSU anymore.

And on a final note, what a year for Uconn. BCS game in football, National Championship in basketball, and Super Regional in baseball! ( and these are only the major sports that come to mind right away)



Ken Jacobi

Author of "Going with the Pitch: Adjusting to Baseball, School, and Life as a Division I College Athlete"
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Really? You're right cheap...wow!

From the NCAA website:

BAYLOR batting in top of the ninth.
    Muncy reached on a fielding error by ss, advanced to second on a throwing error by ss (3-2 BKBFFB).

    Ludy struck out swinging (1-2 KFBS).

    Hainsfurther walked (3-2 BKBBFFB).

    Miller struck out looking (1-2 BFFK).

    (Jones to p for Miller.)

    Vick singled up the middle, RBI (0-2 SF); Hainsfurther advanced to second; Muncy scored, unearned.

    (Flemer to p for Jones.)

    DalPorto flied out to cf to right center (1-0B).

    Batting ends R:1 H:1 E:2

    Score: Baylor 8, Cal 5



CAL batting in bottom of the ninth.
    Bunting singled through the left side (2-2 KBSB).

    Matthews reached on a fielder's choice to second base (1-1 KB); Bunting advanced to second on a fielding error by 2b, advanced to third.

    (Theofanopoul to dh.)

    Theofanopoul reached on a fielder's choice to third base (0-2 SF); Matthews out at second 3b to 2b; Bunting scored, unearned.

    (Tanaka pinch run for Theofanopoul.)

    Booker hit by pitch (2-2 BKFF); Tanaka advanced to second.

    Renda singled through the right side, RBI (2-0 BB); Booker advanced to second; Tanaka scored.

    Krist walked (3-0 BBBB); Renda advanced to second; Booker advanced to third.

    Semien struck out swinging (2-2 FBKBS).

    Rodriguez singled through the right side, 2 RBI (1-2 FFB); Krist advanced to second; Renda scored, unearned; Booker scored, unearned.

    Game ends.

    Final score: Baylor 8, Cal 9


Wow indeed!




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Originally posted by Swampboy:
TPM,
You are being one gracious Tiger Paw Mom tonight!


Well, if one is going to be annoyed, it shouldn't be with the winning team. Besides I think I was just a recent victim of a losing Cub fan (you know as big redbirds momma).

I do believe that UCONN might be recipiants of the CappitalOne Aeard, best performances by a D1 team in sports.

People complain that the south/west has advantage in baseball, yes they do weather wise, but IMO that doesn't have to be that way, northern schools have to make commitments to their programs, whether that be better facilities for their athletes, fully funding their programs, spending money on better coaching staff, I don't know, but UCONN makes a perfect example that it can be done. Some of these schools have lots of money just alone from Alumni support, use it for all sports, not just football.

JMO.

Also, UCONN has some top talent on that team!
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I don't know the full story with the DBU/CAL Super Regional but from what I know Cal's program was days away from being dismantled before a fundraiser this year ( $9 million )saved the program, and Dallas Baptist has only been Division I for 6 years. WOW

The only thing that angers is me is both these teams were cheap and for whatever reason didn't build sufficient stadiums for a Super Regional, aka I don't think they have lights. I played at both fields and they were nice little stadiums but they really weren't "Super Regional" quality. It is too bad because both schools probably lost A LOT of money for their towns and school this weekend by not being able to host. By being cheap they probably lost money.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../AGYPqdNH_story.html

Ken Jacobi

Author of "Going with the Pitch: Adjusting to Baseball, School, and Life as a Division I College Athlete"

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