The scouting blogs from Jupiter make for interesting reading when you note the low velocity pitchers who are getting noted
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Dad's must not be using the guns....
Don't have access, but curious what numbers you are seeing.
Don't have access, but curious what numbers you are seeing.
A lot of low velocities
What's the range of velocities you are considering low? Aren't they mostly consolation games going on so far today?
Not too many 90+ certainly.
Not too many 90+ certainly.
They didn't throw enough 
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Any in the 70's? Also how are the comments flowing? Are they pure dismissal or are they trying to project or some medium?
jkAny in the 70's? Also how are the comments flowing? Are they pure dismissal or are they trying to project or some medium?
OK so now that you all have had a nice discussion, what were the velocity ranges?
quote:Originally posted by BOF:
OK so now that you all have had a nice discussion, what were the velocity ranges?
Most of the pitchers mentioned in the blogs today were mid to high 80's, with a few kids touching the low 90's.
How about the kids throwing in mid 70's and low 80's
The Dirtbags pitcher who won the semifinals game was throwing mid 70's from "down under" according to this article from Baseball America. I think I read that he was committed to East Carolina.
Edit: just noticed that I read the part about ECU on a post by Coach May in the Virginia forum.
Edit: just noticed that I read the part about ECU on a post by Coach May in the Virginia forum.
The blogs that I read for the late Sunday and Monday games didn't mention upper 70's low 80's pitchers (I could have missed it?), obviously we know they're out there...usually if PG blogs about a low 80's pitcher, it's a "crafty lefty".
It is interesting you brought this up. I was surprised that not a single kid I watched even hit 90. I traveled from field to field over several days watching various games. Even for kids who were signed with top D1's, not a single one hit above 89, with most topping out in the mid 80's. Naturally at an event this big I was expecting a bunch of flamethrowers.
I'm sure there must have been a few over the course of 4 days, but with a stalker set up on every field, I did not see a one. That is not to say there were not some good looking pitchers out there. Some were polished with pinpoint control and nasty breaking balls, along with a strong mound presence. But the expectation that all the top guys are 90+ just did not pan out from my observation.
I'm sure there must have been a few over the course of 4 days, but with a stalker set up on every field, I did not see a one. That is not to say there were not some good looking pitchers out there. Some were polished with pinpoint control and nasty breaking balls, along with a strong mound presence. But the expectation that all the top guys are 90+ just did not pan out from my observation.
I haven't got the time right now to check, but I didn't see a single mid 70s pitcher down there this year. There might haqve been some and I will find out soon.
The submariner doesn't light up the gun, but he still touches low 80s and he is very good. Kind of reminds me of Jay Tessmer (former U of Miami and Yankees). He's committed to East Carolina.
Anyway, we will compile all the gun readings once we get everything in the database and it will be posted. There were a very large number of pitchers who were 90, a few mid 90s, at least two touched 97 mph. As always, I'm sure there was an even larger number below 90.
Taking a glance, over the blogs, I didn't see any mid 70s mentioned. Is there some?
The submariner doesn't light up the gun, but he still touches low 80s and he is very good. Kind of reminds me of Jay Tessmer (former U of Miami and Yankees). He's committed to East Carolina.
Anyway, we will compile all the gun readings once we get everything in the database and it will be posted. There were a very large number of pitchers who were 90, a few mid 90s, at least two touched 97 mph. As always, I'm sure there was an even larger number below 90.
Taking a glance, over the blogs, I didn't see any mid 70s mentioned. Is there some?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=3010
Here's the article I referenced previously from Baseball America. It mentions the submarine guy from the Dirtbags sitting in the mid 70's, but he also had a heavy workload during the week, so maybe he wasn't 100%. He still sounded very funky
Here's the article I referenced previously from Baseball America. It mentions the submarine guy from the Dirtbags sitting in the mid 70's, but he also had a heavy workload during the week, so maybe he wasn't 100%. He still sounded very funky
Here are some of the numbers listed in the PG Blog: (Hopefully I'm not violating any copyrights by doing it this way. This was one day only and mostly consolation games, so probably a few tired arms. The numbers were either described as topping out at, or I took the top of the range described, i.e. for 84-86 I used 86.) Just speculation but I'd guess that a lot of the "big guns" get used in pool play against the stronger opponents.
84, 86, 88, 88, 89, 86, 86, 85, 91, 87, 89, 86, 87, 88, 88, 87, 80-sidearm, 84.
Obviously the sidearmer topping out at 80 was most likely working mid-70s.
84, 86, 88, 88, 89, 86, 86, 85, 91, 87, 89, 86, 87, 88, 88, 87, 80-sidearm, 84.
Obviously the sidearmer topping out at 80 was most likely working mid-70s.
The submarine guys name is Dylan Dickens. I had the pleasure of bringing on the Dirtbags a couple of years ago. After facing him in hs games I knew the kid was going to be very good. He is a stocky kid around 5'11 200lbs. He sits in the 80-82 range touching 83-84 at times. During this week he pitched in relief several times and finally got a start the morning of championship day. I am sure from the wear and tear of throwing all spring summer and fall his velo was down a bit. But the bottom line is the guy is a ground ball machine. It is almost impossible to get any lift on him especially if he keeps the ball down. Everything he throws moves a ton and sinks.
I predict he will be successful at the college level. He may never light up a gun but he is one tough kid who has no fear. He is just an old country boy from the same home town as Enos Slaughter "HOF" ML player. He is one of those kids you just fall in love with the first time you get a chance to get to know him. I am very proud of Dylan and excited about his future at ECU.
I predict he will be successful at the college level. He may never light up a gun but he is one tough kid who has no fear. He is just an old country boy from the same home town as Enos Slaughter "HOF" ML player. He is one of those kids you just fall in love with the first time you get a chance to get to know him. I am very proud of Dylan and excited about his future at ECU.
