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Originally posted by showme:
Batter hit it in the gap takes off make it to second is thrown out at third, how is it scored for the batter?
I say scored a double, assist to out fielder.
they say....
that it was not a hit as you cannot have a successful hit and an out on the same at bat(pitched
ball).
Had he stopped on second and then the next pitched ball been caught stealing, then it would have been scored a double and then caught stealing.
Obviously “THEY” have a person keeping score who doesn’t understand the scoring rules of the game. Trust me, that’s not at all uncommon. A lot of “issues” like that can easily be resolved when any given at bat is thought of in terms of “The Play”, “Before the Play”, and “After the Play”. The following are excerpts from “Scoring a Baseball Game the Project Scoresheet Way”,
http://dcortesi.home.mindsprin.../scoring/scoring.pdfIf you haven’t seen it before, it looks very complicated, but once you read through it, you wonder why everyone doesn’t see how much sense it makes.
The Play
The middle line of the three holds “the play,” meaning the action that ends this at-bat— the action that either puts the batter on base or makes him out. Here are all the things that might be noted in that middle section:
a hit, either a single, double, triple or homer
a free pass to first: a walk, hit-by-pitch, catcher interference
an error by a fielder allowing the batter to reach base
a force-out or fielder’s choice (another runner is out, but the batter reaches base)
making out by hitting a ball in the air that is caught
grounding out
striking out
Before the Play
When there are runners on base, things can happen before the end of the at-bat, while the batter still remains at the plate. The top line is where you record these events that happen before the play, including:
a runner steals a base
a runner is caught stealing or picked off
a balk, wild pitch, passed ball or error advances the runner(s)
After the Play
When “the play” finally occurs, additional things can happen on the basepaths. The third line is for events that happen during and after the play, including:
runners ahead of the batter advance and perhaps score
the runners, or the batter, run themselves into outs
a fielder makes an error that lets the batter advance or score
the batter gets to first after a third strike, due to a wild pitch, passed ball or error
on the third strike or fourth ball, runners advance on a wild pitch, passed ball or error
a runner attempts a steal on a third strike