For my son, it was a common question that he answered, but I think coaches generally had an idea as son was primarily looking at schools from 2 conferences. When we found a "similarity" in schools following son, I knew son he was "fishing in right pond." But it was only until the first offer occurred, though "interested dream school" changed its "interest" to offer.
If you mention schools be honest with whom you're talking to, the coaches talk, and they're roommates at the showcases.
This goes back to another thread but most will ask who are you talking to and who has offered. If you have talked to them in person don't say it. Just because you sent them emails and texts does not mean you are talking. If they have not responded personally to you or talked to you in person about playing there then you are not talking. I've stood with the RC's who joked about a kid who said he was talking to so and so and they had never heard of him. He threw 81 and said he was talking to P5 schools. Just be honest and tell them. If you are new to this, they are either good friends or worst enemies with the other RC's and HC's around them. And either way they are talking and have no problem calling and asking someone if they are truly talking to you or offered you especially if it does not fit their view of you.
How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
"we have instructed our son to take what we thought was the "high road""
Oh brother.
You are selling your son's talents. Why do you want to piss off the guy that might 'hire' your son?
You need to tell each coach that you are talking to, that this is your son's dream school. Even if it's not at the moment, it may be the only offer he gets.
TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Yes I think that it is fair and reasonable for your son to tell the second school that he has a pending offer that has a deadline attached to it that expires in a month. So if they are thinking about making an offer, he would need to know soon.
TXdad2019 posted:2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
It may be stressful but its not hard to read your son's situation. A statement from school B that an offer will be made means absolutely nothing. Your son has an offer in hand from school A that wants him and he has 30 days ( a fair time frame) to answer. Go to school B and say, "I have an offer from school B and here is what they have offered & I have 30 days to decide. I'm interested in your school too and would like to have an offer from you to consider before I respond to school A. If I don't hear from you I will accept the offer from school A." If you don't communicate like this to your schools of interest you are not taking the high road - you are taking the wrong road.
adbono posted:TXdad2019 posted:2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
It may be stressful but its not hard to read your son's situation. A statement from school B that an offer will be made means absolutely nothing. Your son has an offer in hand from school A that wants him and he has 30 days ( a fair time frame) to answer. Go to school B and say, "I have an offer from school B and here is what they have offered & I have 30 days to decide. I'm interested in your school too and would like to have an offer from you to consider before I respond to school A. If I don't hear from you I will accept the offer from school A." If you don't communicate like this to your schools of interest you are not taking the high road - you are taking the wrong road.
I never said anything about a high road. Your thinking of maybe the OP saying that. What you said is what he was about to do, but was wanting confirmation since there's folks been through this before on here.
TXdad2019 posted:adbono posted:TXdad2019 posted:2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
It may be stressful but its not hard to read your son's situation. A statement from school B that an offer will be made means absolutely nothing. Your son has an offer in hand from school A that wants him and he has 30 days ( a fair time frame) to answer. Go to school B and say, "I have an offer from school B and here is what they have offered & I have 30 days to decide. I'm interested in your school too and would like to have an offer from you to consider before I respond to school A. If I don't hear from you I will accept the offer from school A." If you don't communicate like this to your schools of interest you are not taking the high road - you are taking the wrong road.
I never said anything about a high road. Your thinking of maybe the OP saying that. What you said is what he was about to do, but was wanting confirmation since there's folks been through this before on here.
I was not attributing the "high road" comment to you. That terminology has appeared in this (and earlier threads) and it is naïve thinking - just my opinion.
adbono posted:TXdad2019 posted:adbono posted:TXdad2019 posted:2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
It may be stressful but its not hard to read your son's situation. A statement from school B that an offer will be made means absolutely nothing. Your son has an offer in hand from school A that wants him and he has 30 days ( a fair time frame) to answer. Go to school B and say, "I have an offer from school B and here is what they have offered & I have 30 days to decide. I'm interested in your school too and would like to have an offer from you to consider before I respond to school A. If I don't hear from you I will accept the offer from school A." If you don't communicate like this to your schools of interest you are not taking the high road - you are taking the wrong road.
I never said anything about a high road. Your thinking of maybe the OP saying that. What you said is what he was about to do, but was wanting confirmation since there's folks been through this before on here.
I was not attributing the "high road" comment to you. That terminology has appeared in this (and earlier threads) and it is naïve thinking - just my opinion.
No problem, we've never been through this before and wasn't sure there was any unwritten rule. I don't want son coming off too pushy, but with a time frame from school A, I didn't want him sounding pushy to school B is all. I want to make sure we stay respectful to all parties.
TXdad2019 posted:don't want son coming off too pushy, but with a time frame from school A, I didn't want him sounding pushy to school B is all. I want to make sure we stay respectful to all parties.
My son did exactly this. Had offers from other schools but liked this coach/program the best, and let him know.
Honestly I was pretty impressed with the way my boy spoke with the coach and advocated for himself.
He even negotiated his package a little bit, and had to go back and tell another coach that he would not be accepting his offer. Made me real proud of him. Great life lesson.
The truth will set you free. But the coaches all know each other and they all talk, so make sure you don't stretch the truth.
If the suggested response feels too pushy to your son, a softened approach could be something like...
"I currently have an offer from another school and there is a deadline approaching . I am very interested in (your school) but will likely have to make a choice soon. Can you tell me if it is still your plan to make an offer and if you have a timeframe in mind?"
I think both are fine but your son has to be reasonably comfortable
cabbagedad posted:If the suggested response feels too pushy to your son, a softened approach could be something like...
"I currently have an offer from another school and there is a deadline approaching . I am very interested in (your school) but will likely have to make a choice soon. Can you tell me if it is still your plan to make an offer and if you have a timeframe in mind?"
I think both are fine but your son has to be reasonably comfortable
Thanks, now if I can get him to quit texting during class. Lol
When my son got an offer from one of his top schools we asked him if any other pending offers would matter or that he would consider over this offer. There was only one school. We had our club coach reach out to that school and tell them the situation. They were honest and said they were going another way. I told him since none of the other pending offers would change his mind, accept. We didn’t want to try the whole try to negotiate offers thing. I think coaches are used to being told the situation and it makes things clearer for everyone.
Sometimes I wonder if people are afraid of offending a school/coach if they receive an offer from another school. If the school/coach walks away because you have another offer how badly did they want you?
It’s like sales people who are afraid to close. If you did your job you’ve earned the right to be up front.
TXdad2019 posted:2022NYC posted:TXdad2019 posted:How about if your kid is offered by a school and there is a second that said they are going to offer, but haven't yet. The first school gives kid a month to decide. Do you tell second school " hey, I have a month to decide, what time frame are you looking at offering?" I don't know a easy way around it, but any thoughts would help. This is son's scenario right now.
Just curious, do you want a second offer as a back up or are you looking to leverage it for more $$
No, son I think is leaning towards second school, but has to make a decision by the end of the month. If he turns down the first school and let's say second doesn't offer (although, they said one was coming), now he's stuck out with no offers. This crap is stressful. Lol
Be careful before turning down an offer before the other offer is in hand. I know many a kid who as soon as the original offer was declined, the subsequent expected offer from the other school either came in at a lower than expected amount of became a walk-on offer. The all know each other, true. But what this thread has been flirting around and not saying is that these programs have finite budgets. If a school knows that your other option just went away, there is less incentive to make a similar or better offer.
Don't turn down anything until you either have that offer or they tell you concretely that the offer is not coming. It's just not in your athlete's interest.
And...disclosing the date the other offer is expecting a decision really doesn't help your athlete either. I believe someone else said it above, they either want you or don't. I would ask the school you are awaiting and offer from that you would like to make your decision by next week (or pick your date) and if they are going to make an offer for you to consider you would appreciate being able to weigh it by then. Just my opinion.
Hi,
Sharing recruiting information with college coaches is very important in the recruiting process. I've seen numerous times where an athlete wasn't getting recruited by a school, but then a school in the conference offers. Now everybody is interested!! Families need to realize that they are selling themselves to the coaches. A coach will be more interested in an athlete if he/she have other offers and interest. As opposed to some one that nobody has spoken to.
I recently published a Q&A series with Texas college coaches about how they navigate the recruiting process. I think this will help with any recruiting questions: https://underrecruitedprep.com/blog
Colleges: University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, The University of Texas at Tyler, Wayland Baptist University, Texas Wesleyan University, Dallas Baptist University, Our Lady of the Lake University, Abilene Christian University, Hill College, Howard College, Paris Junior College, Southwestern University, East Texas Baptist University, Hardin-Simmons University, Murray State College, Rose State College.
It's easy. Call School 2 and say "I have an offer from another school that I am strongly considering accepting. I'm still interested in you guys at _____U. The other school gave me a deadline and I wanted to know if you were considering making an offer? Otherwise I will be committing."
Personally, I would not give details of the other offer like some have mentioned. If School2 knows you're going to accept an offer for 25%, they're not going to offer you 50%. I would see what they offer and if it isn't high enough just give them the number you need to commit there and they will either match it or walk away.
If they don't pick up the phone I would email and consider no response for 48 hours a no. Odds are they are waiting for another player to commit to them. Put the pressure on the school and force their hand. As much as they might rather have another player, they do not want two prospects signing elsewhere.