Too many credits to transfer to a 4 year?

Yes, you can have 'too many units'.

Most places have 'residency requirements' that require you to take a minimum number of units in order to earn a degree. You can't transfer in, take just a couple of classes, and get a degree from 'Arrogant U'...

For example, my wife was only 8 units short of having a Chemistry degree (her degree is in Bacteriology). However, she had to take over 30 units in order to earn the degree.

Note: Something to consider for those choosing a major. Where we work 'Chemistry' is considered a 'professional' degree. 'Bacteriology', even though it covers a lot of the same classes, is not... Ironic in that what she needed the degree for has little to do with either degree.

kt333,
I recommend talking to your athletic counselor at the JC right away. You may be able to remedy the situation by enrolling part time during your redshirt sophmore offseason semester. Generally speaking a JUCO redshirt has to enroll less than full time at least one semester to be eligible to play at the D1 level the first season after transferring.

Essentially by enrolling less than full time for a semester you may not be at the start of your 4th year of college for NCAA D1 purposes after transferring from the JC.

This is all guesswork on my part and you'll have to talk to your athletic counselor and then coordinate with the school that you are interested in to see if it is a possibility or not.

I don't think you will have too many units to be able to transfer. You will not have enough transferable units after 3 years of full time enrollment at the JC to be eligible to play baseball under the NCAA's progress toward a degree policy.

As usual in these matters 3fingeredglove has a much better understanding of the process than the rest of us so you should send 3finger a PM unless 3finger contributes to this thread in the meantime.

Regardless, I'll repeat my recommendation: Go see your athletic counselor immediately.

Also, it sounds like they may be asking you to transfer after this season and implying that you would be eligible to play as a redshirt sophmore but that they don't have scholarship money available for you next season. It sounds to me like they're really trying to get you there sooner than later but don't have any scholarships available for you. I'm just saying that you may still have the option of playing your redshirt sophmore season at the JC if things can be worked out by enrolling less than full time for one semester.

Well, this notion of "too many credits" has been posted here before, and we have two posts in this thread referring to the same thing. But the actual issue is having too few transferrable credits.
As I understand the situation, Blank State requires 120 credit hours for graduation and further require that half of these credits are for courses taken at Blank State.

D1 NCAA rules have several requirements to maintain academic progress. Two of these apply particularly to JC players. The first is that a player must designate a degree program before starting his third year. That implies more than declaring a major-- it means a fully described course of studies, so that progress against the degree program can be measured. A player who stays at a JC for his 3rd year can't designate a degree program, but he will need to do so immediately upon entering the 4 year school. The second is the rule the coach wrote about:
Before entering the 3rd year of college enrollment, the player must have attained 40% of the course requirements for his specific degree program. The player needs 60% before his 4th year of enrollment. But notice that the 4th year requirement is more difficult, because most degree programs allow a variety of lower level elective courses, and permit relatively few electives for the second half of the degree program. (BTW, a fifth year player needs 80%.)

Perhaps you plan to take 12 hours per term, which seems to be typical of JC baseball players. If you leave after 2 years of JC, that would give you 48 hours of credit, which is the minimum to be eligible by the 40% rule, provided that all of the courses transfer. Typically, a 4 year school won't accept all of the JC hours. In baseball, if you haven't met the 40% rule in the fall you won't be eligible in the following spring. So the first take away is that you need to figure out how many courses will transfer, and if it is less than 48, either plan to take summer courses or increase the number of hours next term. (Or both.)

If you do stay at the JC for 3 years the applicable 60% rule is more difficult, because as you've discovered, quite a few of the courses won't transfer. Even though the 4 year school can probably find 60 transferrable hours, it is quite possible that less than 60 will be applicable to your specific degree program. That can happen because JCs typically don't offer courses suitable for the 3rd year of a degree program-- JCs are 2 year schools. So take away #2 is that it needs very careful planning to stay a 3rd year at a JC and still be eligible for baseball. It is also tricky to be able to graduate in 5 years (never mind 4). That 3rd year sounds attractive for baseball, but it is sub-optimal for getting a degree.

CADad thinks that you may be able to delay the onset of the 4th year by not enrolling full time for one semester at the JC. That may be true, but it's not exactly what the rule says.

From 14.4.3.2: . A student-athlete who is entering his or her fourth year of collegiate enrollment shall have completed successfully at least 60 percent of the course requirements in the student’s specific degree program.

Note that it does not say "full time collegiate enrollment". If I were you, before embarking on a 3rd year at a JC, I would contact the NCAA (preferably by email, so you have a written record) and get clarification of the rule. And, even if it turns out that enrolling part time does delay the start of your 4th year, consider very carefully if it is possible to get to 60% before the spring semester of your 4th year. That means deciding on a degree program now, and looking at program requirements for each candidate 4 year school, and finding out if the JC can offer the needed courses.

kt333,
I'm not sure that getting you there sooner would really be that much of a win-win for them. There would be no guarantees but certainly a reasonable expectation that you would be on scholarship as a redshirt junior.

Please let us know how it turns out as that will be good information for other hsbbweb JC players.

Hawk19, CADad, and 3FingeredGlove,

Thank you for your thoughtful and helpful responses. I'll continue on with exploring this issue with the coach and my athletic counselor.

I will definitely keep everyone updated with the valuable info that I learn through this experience.

Best Regards,

KT