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Chapman University baseball has a long history of success at the D3 level, until the past couple of years. During the last several years after taking over for Rex Peters, Coach Tom Tereschuk has been viewed as a coach who gets players to compete and succeed.

Apparently, a former player who is now a senior wrote an article in the school newspaper describing the use of swear words which were done in a way which that player viewed as demeaning and humiliating, and reportedly in violation of school guidelines and regulations. I have not been able to find any information on why the player appears to have waited from at least the Fall of 2011 until now to come forward..

The school has suspended the Coach and placed him on indefinite leave during an investigation.

The team ended up with a very poor finish and missed the SCIAC playoffs.

Past players and others have started a Facebook page in support of the Coach.

 

http://www.thepantheronline.co...-on-indefinite-leave

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119740221553001/

 

This site sees a proliferation of complaints directed at coaches at the HS level. Clearly college colleges are not immune and this coaches current livelihood as a coach and teacher is at risk.  In contrast, on Sunday I watched the clip on Coach Walters at Wake Forest who gave his kidney to save the life of a recruited player he hardly knew. No matter what the result, this has to be a very challenging experience for the Chapman coach.

 

'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'

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Yet another sign of the Wussification (or Pu...) of America.

 

Maybe the guy goes too far, maybe not.    But, I have a bigger problem with the kids that can't (or don't want to) deal with and adapt to this kind of stuff than the coaches that are doing it.   A-holes are everywhere.  Deal with it and move on. 

 

 

 

Personally, I'm not a fan of foul-mouthed behavior. Not only do a lot of people find it offensive, but it also tends to limit one's ability to express oneself and persuade others.

 

However, I'm also very much of the opinion that baseball is a tough game played and coached by tough people. Not that it takes foul language to make someone "tough;" but, if you expect to have a career of any duration in the sport, you'd better be prepared to "strap it on."

 

...and, to me, that includes being able to withstand some language and treatment that you might not be inclined to repeat if you were the coach.

While not much of a fan of that type of behavior either, I'm not sure where our society is going here. What happens to this same player when his boss at work rips him apart for a screw up that costs his company money. Who will he cry to then?

 

There are all types in the world of baseball and in the "real world." Dealing with these types is just part of life.

With a bit more research, it appears the article was written in the school newspaper and is largely based on an interview with one former player, who was named and perhaps on who did not provide his name.

The former player who is quoted in the article, which then led to the suspension of the coach is reported to have provided this further response to the article itself, including an inaccuracy as to the time he played:

 

"I am writing in this column because I was misrepresented in my interview regarding Coach Tom Tereschuk. I have not been a part of the Chapman baseball program since the fall of 2010. I played one year under Coach T and never was I a victim or had felt victimized by Coach T. The quotes in the article portray me as slandering him as a coach and my feeling towards the situation could not be more contradictory. I am not in any way connected to the events that are now transpiring in the Chapman Baseball program. I respect Coach T as not only a passionate but also an inspiring coach. I told of my one year with the program during the interview and implored that the article contain quotes from players who had been in the program for four years because they have better insight into Coach T’s coaching style and integrity. I believe that my interview should not have been as heavily relied upon and that a player who had played for T for longer would have been a much better source to cite. That being said, I do not stand against Coach T in these allegations. Repeatedly during my interview I maintained that I did not believe Coach T to be abusive but was instilling a sense of accountability and motivation in his players including myself. The allegations do not reflect my feelings and attitude towards Coach T. He is an incredible coach and has been fostering ballplayers and men of integrity and high moral conduct for over 30 years in Orange County. It is my hope that he will continue to coach and teach at Chapman University."

Originally Posted by birdman14:

While not much of a fan of that type of behavior either, I'm not sure where our society is going here. What happens to this same player when his boss at work rips him apart for a screw up that costs his company money. Who will he cry to then?

 

There are all types in the world of baseball and in the "real world." Dealing with these types is just part of life.

Where is society headed? It's getting soft. Most coaches used to be tough, in your face SOBs. It turned boys into men who could handle situations without melting down, quitting, whining and complaining. Too many kids today think coaches are being mean just by telling them the truth about their work ethic or ability.

Originally Posted by MTH:

Yet another sign of the Wussification (or Pu...) of America.

 

Maybe the guy goes too far, maybe not.    But, I have a bigger problem with the kids that can't (or don't want to) deal with and adapt to this kind of stuff than the coaches that are doing it.   A-holes are everywhere.  Deal with it and move on. 

 

 

 

YOU'RE SUSPENDED FOR THAT LANGUAGE!

Originally Posted by birdman14:

While not much of a fan of that type of behavior either, I'm not sure where our society is going here. What happens to this same player when his boss at work rips him apart for a screw up that costs his company money. Who will he cry to then?

 

There are all types in the world of baseball and in the "real world." Dealing with these types is just part of life.

Obviously the boss, because now days he will be the one getting fired. Not the kid who screwed up...

Originally Posted by infielddad:

Chapman University baseball has a long history of success at the D3 level, until the past couple of years. During the last several years after taking over for Rex Peters, Coach Tom Tereschuk has been viewed as a coach who gets players to compete and succeed.

Apparently, a former player who is now a senior wrote an article in the school newspaper describing the use of swear words which were done in a way which that player viewed as demeaning and humiliating, and reportedly in violation of school guidelines and regulations. I have not been able to find any information on why the player appears to have waited from at least the Fall of 2011 until now to come forward..

The school has suspended the Coach and placed him on indefinite leave during an investigation.

The team ended up with a very poor finish and missed the SCIAC playoffs.

Past players and others have started a Facebook page in support of the Coach.

 

http://www.thepantheronline.co...-on-indefinite-leave

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119740221553001/

 

This site sees a proliferation of complaints directed at coaches at the HS level. Clearly college colleges are not immune and this coaches current livelihood as a coach and teacher is at risk.  In contrast, on Sunday I watched the clip on Coach Walters at Wake Forest who gave his kidney to save the life of a recruited player he hardly knew. No matter what the result, this has to be a very challenging experience for the Chapman coach.

 


Not sure you got the correct information. The suspension was not from the former player former senior but from a current parent of a player who complained to the administration. The former player/senior was interviewed after the suspension had occurred. This coach has support over 95% of his current players and former players. It is the ones that don't play or have left the team that complain...Coach T is one of the best coaches on the D3 level and his record proves along with 600 supporters on facebook including Mark Trumbo of the Angels who was Coached by Tereschuk while in High School

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

Originally Posted by Jimmy03:

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jICvEEqOtEg

Yes. Sorry but it works. If you don't like these methods there any many programs that lose that don't use this methods.

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augie_Garrido

 

Garrido's teams have won five national titles (1979, 1984, 1995, 2002, 2005). Garrido has earned 12 trips to the College World Series after making 25 NCAA Regional Championship appearances, including seven at Texas, while garnering National Coach of the Year honors five times (1975, 1979, 1984, 1985, 2002), regional coach of the year accolades following six different seasons (1975, 1979, 1984, 1985, 2002, 2004) and conference coach of the year distinctions on three occasions (1987, 1995, 2002). Garrido's teams have won league championships in 20 different seasons.

 

I am familiar with Augie.  I have worked some of his games.  His diatribes at least involve baseball.

 

I believe there is a difference between a vulgar motivational lecture and just a string of vulgarities that offer no suggestion for action, no hit of possible change, and nothing that might be construed as helpful.

 

Augie's talks fall in the former, what I am hearing is in the latter.  And despite your contention, not once have I seen it result if anything positive when the coach leaves the field.

 

Vulgarities for emphasis and effect do have a place.  Vulgarities for the sake of vulgarities accompanied by threats of violence are not, in my opinion, motivational and I have yet to see a program succeed that relies on them.  Most often, when I see them it is with D-1 teams consistently in the bottom tier of their conferences.

I make it a point not to cuss. It is interesting trying to find effective verbiage that expresses the exact feelings without F-bombing. The thing I have found in doing this, is the players understand exactly how you are feeling without crossing the "character issue" line. It shows the kids that there are truly better alternatives with their speech and actions that will relieve their frustration but not compromise their integrity.

Originally Posted by Jimmy03:

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

This sure seems like something that will calm the pitcher's nerves and motivate him to repeat his delivery and mold himself back into being successful. 

Typical high school and college coach behavior which is sad. Coaches demand there players to be gentleman, upstanding citizens etc and it entirely reeks of hypocrisy. A coach would never tolerate profanity laced outbursts from a player towards himself or other members of his staff. Yet its acceptable and many (the majority) of college baseball coaches berate, demean, and belittle there players with this kind of language.

It's why I have a VERY short list of colleges I recommend for kids who play for us. Between boorish behavior, a lack of any kind of honesty in recruiting, and the complete cloning of players along with poor instructional techniques, it's no wonder most American kids can't cut it and the the major leagues is being overran by players from other countries.
Originally Posted by J H:
Originally Posted by Jimmy03:

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

This sure seems like something that will calm the pitcher's nerves and motivate him to repeat his delivery and mold himself back into being successful. 

 

With R1, R2, he walked the next two batters.  Then they pulled him.  Great confidence builder.

There are many coaches similar to Augie.  They will beat you up verbally when you mess up but they will also stand in front of an oncoming train to protect their players.
As bad as it sounds kids will play for these guys for free.
There is a difference between a verbal tirad and verbal humiliation.
Originally Posted by Jimmy03:

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

Sounds like someone that went to school but never received an education.  Obviously someone that has no business trying to be a teacher or leader but just an over grown bully trying to relive their glory days through someone else. 


 

Originally Posted by Jimmy03:

This is a verbatim  "discussion" I witnessed between a D-1 pitching coach and a starter on the mound:

 

"What the F--- are you doing out here?  Do you have a F---ing clue what you're doing?  F--- me, I can't believe we recruited your worthless F---ing a$$. You got, what a F---ing quarter scholarship?  Really?  What the F--- were we thinking?  Listen, you want to stay here long enough to F---ing pack a bag for home, then F---ing get somebody out.  Jesus, at least pretend you're a F---king ball player for five F---king minutes or I will F--- you up. Do you understand, a$$hole? I will.  I will kick your F---ing a$$!"

 

I never heard this when I first started D-1 ball 30 years ago.  Now, I hear this almost weekly. Is this what passes for motivation these days?  Really?

Is it weird I say this in the mirror every morning?

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