.transfer rules

That is unbelievable. I would call the NCAA to get exact rules. They are very helpful and have reps that deal in BB only. You son would find it hard to perform at his best if he is upset with the coach.

He's thinking of transferring within his present conference? There may be rules in effect for that conference which limit or pertain to transfers. Some conferences require a year in residence before competing even though the NCAA rules would allow it.

Anyway, the D2 Manual says:
13.1.1.2 Four-Year College Prospective Student-Athletes. An athletics staff member or other representative of the institution’s athletics interests shall not make contact with the student-athlete of an NCAA or NAIA four-year collegiate institution, directly or indirectly, without first obtaining the written permission of the first institution’s athletics director (or an athletics administrator designated by the athletics director) to do so, regardless of who makes the initial contact. If permission is not granted, the second institution shall not encourage the transfer and shall not provide athletically related financial assistance to the student-athlete until the student-athlete has attended the second institution for one academic year. If permission is granted to contact the student-athlete, all applicable NCAA recruiting rules apply.

So by rules, the new school would need to get permission from the old school. There is nothing to stop your son from contacting the new school's coaches, but by rule they can't really talk to him (or you) until permission is granted. I suspect this rule is sometimes not observed, and in fact it isn't clear how a potential new school would know to ask permission unless some kind of communication has already occurred.

NCAA Manuals

What suprises me the most is that he promised 4 years same amount.

Baseball scholarships are year to year.

Promises should be kept if the coach made a 4 year promise.

What I would ask myself/the coach is why the change? Is it because the scholarship rules changed or does he value your son less.

If your son is really valued and he fits well with the team and he is happy where he is at then I would figure the money out.

3 fingered thanks for the info.so a parent can send a email to make contact?

play fair we knew that a scholarship is for only one year at time. but before he committed we asked sitting in his office and he said as long as he keeps up his grade point .this is the hardest decision for him to leave he really loves his team mates they all act like brothers they do everthing together and look out for each other.my son had avery good freshman year led team in innings pitched and had lowest era on the team.sophmore year he did not have areal good year got hurt in the fall season and nver really was 100 percent.

Just be aware that what happened is not always that unusual. What are you talking about, a few thousand dollars or thousands of dollars. Did he actually promise all 4 years or was this an assumption?

Scholarships are renewable, there is nothing written that says that the coach has to give the same amount for all 4 years. They do make those promises, and keep them if the player is a contributor. You now state he has been hurt and not contributing.

If your son has not contributed this year what makes him think he will get more somewhere else?

I think I would be upset, but not sure if I would advise son to transfer. Obviously he has greatly helped the team. He should make the coach aware taking away his money may mean he has to transfer, unless you can afford it. Why not turn it into a positive, ask for assistance if you need it or see if he qualifies for academic money.

tpm we decided after the meeting with the coach my son said it would never be the same with the coach words were said.for academics i would rather spend my money at another school.but not as good baseball program.my son will be playing in agood summer college league this summer and if he pitches well he should have no problem with other schools.

Can a player coming from a 4 year going to another (regardless of division) play immediately? Help on this one 3FG.

If that was the case, no way would my son leave his friends and school after two years, unless we could not afford the costs. Even after taking away some scholarship $$, there are some things much more important than the coach ****ing you off. I just get the feeling alot more going on here, sounds like he just wants more playing time, will he get it at another school?

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Originally posted by TPM:
Can a player coming from a 4 year going to another (regardless of division) play immediately?

Yes, if the player transfers to a D2 or D3 school, by using the one-time transfer exception. In fact, up until just 9 months ago, a player could have transferred to a D1 and played immediately. (The new D1 rule doesn't affect players who transferred before Aug 1, 2008.)

Of course the player needs adequate grades, transferable credit hours, no disciplinary issues, etc.

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Originally posted by BBROWN:
So a parent can send a email to make contact?

Yes, that won't break any rules. But maybe you should consider exactly what you want to accomplish.

Once you inform a coach at another school that you want to discuss transferring, he must inform the present school. Perhaps you want that to happen, either as a chip in further negotiations with the present school or as a way to "get back" at them. Perhaps you don't want the present school to know, in order to preserve the current offer. If the latter is true, then probably a more indirect aproach than email is better.

Next, should a parent make the contact or the player? I don't know, but my sense is that a person who has completed his sophomore year of college should take care of this himself. I suspect a potential coach might wonder just who is interested in having the player transfer.

What will your son want to do if no other college has a strong interest in him? You mention summer league, but what if he gets sick or pulls a hamstring? If that happens, it will have been more than a year since he played well. It seems to me that it would be better to not burn bridges.

I would caution one thing...

The grass isn't necessarily greener, or more honest, on the other side.

I would advise to get past the emotional stage, and then consider your options. Is the school still a good fit? You've already said there's a connection to his teammates.

No one likes to be deceived, but transferring doesn't necessarily protect against that happening again.

Brown, did the coach offer to make up the difference with academic aid?