Tubing

redbird5 ,
I totally respect your views on protecting a young pitchers arm . When my son was 10 years old I started him on a light(less then 1 pound) shoulder program , as well as a total body flexibility program . On his upperbody we do the same stretches that my pitchers do at WSU , as well as my pro clients . To be honest , I haven't done any tubing work with him , so maybe someone on the forum will be able to give you alot better answer .
Good Luck ,
Kerry

redbird,
I have the ArmStrng Trainer for my older son, but have also started my 10 year old on it - BUT, he is restricted to the lightest tension (orange tube), and I won't let him get too far from the anchor point. The product comes with a manual of exercises, and he goes through the basic routine a couple of times a week. It seems to be fine - no complaints from him whatsoever (other than he thinks I'm treating him like a 'wussy').....Definitely, be protective of those arms!! But this also means making them structurally sound through some form of light resistance work, and plenty of plain old throwing (short-medium-long toss).

"Son, when you pitch a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know."

Tubing is great for younger kids. My daughter dislocated her shoulder diving for a ball and her PT put her on a program with tubing. While we were there, he gave my son a program to follow as well to strengthen his rotator cuff. We try to revisit the program periodically to keep it strong.

http://www.highviewheat.com/index.asp

http://www.kristensfastpitchworld.com/index.asp

Red,

I have a tubing workout program (used by the Az. Diamondbacks) that is simple and effective. Obviously with 10 year olds - the resistance should be lighter - but if interested I can scan it into a file and send it to you.

Strongly recommend some stretching prior to beginning the tubing exercise.

Redbird,

I'm sure you've heard of the throwers 10 program. There are a few tubing exercises in them and although they were designed for rehabbing and strengthening the rotator cuff, they might be something you can do with your youngin's. My son has used surgical tubing for years now. As far as tension, he just grips it either higher or lower to adjust for more or less tension.

http://www.asmi.org/SportsMed/throwing/thrower10.html

Hope this helps,
Frank

PASSION - "There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart...pursue those."

itsinthegame....
If you do scan that info for redbird, I would really appreciate a copy if it wouldn't be too much trouble!
misterh21@yahoo.com

"Son, when you pitch a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know."

kerry,

I take the same approach for our little kids. Do you use stretching bands for their legs?


its,

Thanks for the offer. You have a PM.


FrankF,

Yes, I have that. Thanks for the link.


I appreciate the feedback.

Krakatoa,
It's on its way

Red - you have a pm.

Any problems with the transmission - let me know.

its inthegame could u please send me the file, the program sounds good and would like to get more familier with it.
adam_anderson66@yahoo.ca
Thanks very much

You can get a tubing program from www.jaegersports.com as well as a good set of bands. The video that Jaeger sells has all of the tubing exercises along with his long toss program. IMO the video is good but a bit expensive.

Doc A - I sent you an email.

I have a 12 yr old that has been using the Throwers 10 with 2lb weights for 18 mths. He pretty much does them daily. He has incorporated this with a regular short - med - long toss program. The results have been great. He has increased his arm strength and never has had even the slightest hint of any arm problems.

Based on the results my son has seen I recommend some type of tube work for younger kids.

redbird5 ,
With my oldest children , ages 12 & 13 , I do two things . First , I personally stretch them out . I have a partner stretch program that does a great job with loosening their hips , hamstrings , quads , calves , and their lowerback . They also follow a tape that I have in which they don't need a partner for . But that is all that I personally have young kids do . I want to thank everyone that has helped redbird5 with his question about tubing exercises , GREAT JOB !!!
Thanks ,
Kerry

The Jaeger bands are very beneficial. To add a challenge to the J-bands, have the pitcher use them while on a balance beam. Also, a Body Blade is very beneficial as well. You can use it while going through the pitching motion. My son alternates J-bands and Body Blade. Both are different but both are beneficial to the rotator cuff.

itsinthegame,

Would you mind sending me a copy of the program? I have a 10 yr old and a 13 yr old that could benefit from this.

bigdawgryan@yahoo.com

Thanks, bigdawgryan

Bigdawg,

I will send it to you this afternoon.

Regards

Tubing is a great idea for young arms. My daughter uses it and has major pop. Problems with bands

• Tubing/bands come coded or can be ordered color coded and you should only order the proper tubing for you child. Don't order a heavier tube because they will someday grow into it.
• Many coaches use tubing for one arm. You need to order tubing that can be used for both arms to correctly balance arm and body development. If you can only order tubing with one band, then make sure that you work both halves of the body.
• People neglect the wrist when they go do their band work. The wrist should be exercised as well.
• Band work does not alleviate the need for doing other body stretches.
• Proper band work can be used both for stretching and lifting purposes. However, it should be monitored. Improper use can lead to injury just as much as improper weightlifting can.

These are JMHO!

"There comes a time when you have to stop dreaming of the man you want to be and start being the man you have become." Bruce Springsteen

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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Bigdawg,

I will send it to you this afternoon.

Regards

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Itsinthegame,

Hate to be a pest, but have not seen an email from you. When you get time, would you mind sending me a copy of the AZ Diamondbacks tubing program you have? Thanks, I am anxious to get my 10yr old and my 13yr old using it.

bigdawgryan@yahoo.com

Thanks again.

BigDawg,

I sent you an e-mail at your yahoo address and it was returned to me as "address unknown." I will try again now. Let me know if you get it.

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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
BigDawg,

I sent you an e-mail at your yahoo address and it was returned to me as "address unknown." I will try again now. Let me know if you get it.

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Just checked my Yahoo account, nothing. the address is bigdawgryan@yahoo.com. But, please try my work email address. rlchrist@bechtel.com

Thanks and sorry for the problems.

BigDawg,

Yahoo returned the email again. I sent it to the bechtel address. Let me know.
Regards

hey can you please send me a diamondbacks workout, thank you
man_cub_1999@yahoo.com

Scott,

I sent it this a.m.

Good luck

Redbird,

We use the site Frank F posted. I can't remember all the positions so we click on it and let it run while we go through the reps so we don't forget any. It is a good workout for sure. It has got to be beneficial.

Trying to play with a sore/hurt arm is miserable. At that age we had trouble with defensive minded coaches making kids take too many infield grounders and throw. Kids will try to showcase their arm evn when it is sore. These guys were our pitchers too. Overuse was a big issue looking back.