Pretty cool to see a bunch of D3 guys having success in D1.
https://x.com/coachlisle/statu...N9zsz-h7D0ScyI54E_Tw
Also, UVA starting catcher Jacob Ference is a Salisbury grad, and is leading the Wahoos in SLG at .734.
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UCONN's #3 hitter is older than Juan Soto....
The former school is a D3. The players are D1 level, who were not recuited to a D1 or potentially chose a HA opportunity.
More HS players need to focus on D3 as an easier entry. Just my opinion.
@BaseballBUDDY posted:The former school is a D3. The players are D1 level, who were not recuited to a D1 or potentially chose a HA opportunity.
More HS players need to focus on D3 as an easier entry. Just my opinion.
They were probably late bloomers who were D3 talent when they entered college.
I know or know of a couple of D3 pitchers who dominated and were drafted. One made it to AAA before hitting a wall. The other injured his arm in High A. They were D3 prospects coming out if high school. The one I know was 5’11 170 senior year of high school. He finished college 6’3 200 cruising 93.
Had transfer rules been what they are now they would have been pitching for P5s by junior year.
@RJM posted:They were probably late bloomers who were D3 talent when they entered college.
I know or know of a couple of D3 pitchers who dominated and were drafted. One made it to AAA before hitting a wall. The other injured his arm in High A. They were D3 prospects coming out if high school. The one I know was 5’11 170 senior year of high school. He finished college 6’3 200 cruising 93.
Had transfer rules been what they are now they would have been pitching for P5s by junior year.
There are currently hundreds of 2023 kids who were “D1 talent” entering college who are not going to be D1 talent next year but might be in a year or two.
@BaseballBUDDY posted:The former school is a D3. The players are D1 level, who were not recuited to a D1 or potentially chose a HA opportunity.
More HS players need to focus on D3 as an easier entry. Just my opinion.
This is a great point, with the portal system now this is something that players and their parents should consider if playing baseball level takes priority over continuity. Switching schools is not something to be taken lightly IMO, but if baseball takes priority over other factors it is certainly an avenue to consider.
@BOF posted:This is a great point, with the portal system now this is something that players and their parents should consider if playing baseball level takes priority over continuity. Switching schools is not something to be taken lightly IMO, but if baseball takes priority over other factors it is certainly an avenue to consider.
There are a number of my son's friends who couldn't care less about college and just want to keep playing. If anything, classes are a burden to them. I wish there was a better option for kids like this.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:There are a number of my son's friends who couldn't care less about college and just want to keep playing. If anything, classes are a burden to them. I wish there was a better option for kids like this.
There is, it's called a Mens League ;-).
In all seriousness, I'm starting to see with my son's class (2020) which is about when kids started being impacted. Lots of kids played at multiple schools over the 4 years are now done. And don't have a degree.
I think it's going to get worse. Obviously there are exceptions, and situations I'm not aware of or uneducated about, but I don't understand how kids can transfer after junior year. Even if every credit transferred I don't think you can go to a school for 1 year and be awarded a degree.
I think over the next few years you're going to see many kids having played baseball for 5 or 6 years and have nothing to show for it (academically at least).
And that is precisely why the NCAA put in the sit rule in 2008. Which was extensively discussed on HSBBW:
https://community.hsbaseballwe...-updatepolk-concedes
https://community.hsbaseballwe...ng-just-dawned-on-me
Goes to show that no matter what rules they put in, they don't last forever - this was only 16 years ago.
They need to institute contracts. 2 years, 3 year, 4 years. Both parties are bound. You’ll find out real quick how much a Coach believes in you. And there will be incentive to develop guys that they’ve signed contracts with. Kids will also have a chance to actually graduate or at least plan for their path.
@nycdad posted:There is, it's called a Mens League ;-).
In all seriousness, I'm starting to see with my son's class (2020) which is about when kids started being impacted. Lots of kids played at multiple schools over the 4 years are now done. And don't have a degree.
I think it's going to get worse. Obviously there are exceptions, and situations I'm not aware of or uneducated about, but I don't understand how kids can transfer after junior year. Even if every credit transferred I don't think you can go to a school for 1 year and be awarded a degree.
I think over the next few years you're going to see many kids having played baseball for 5 or 6 years and have nothing to show for it (academically at least).
This was the reason for the transfer sit out a year rule and APR in the first place. Athletes weren’t progressing towards degrees. But, I believe now the NCAA is up against a legal wall.
@BOF posted:This is a great point, with the portal system now this is something that players and their parents should consider if playing baseball level takes priority over continuity. Switching schools is not something to be taken lightly IMO, but if baseball takes priority over other factors it is certainly an avenue to consider.
The decision might not be in the players hands, how many are being told their future in schools is in doubt.
BTW, here is the visual for UConn Transfers
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UCONN has a 25 year old playing. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.
MasterP;
Why not?
Maybe he was in the Military for 2 years or a Mormon Mission.
Bob
@Master P posted:UCONN has a 25 year old playing. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.
There is no age limit, which is a problem. IMHO, no adult over 20 should be able to use metal bats
Isn't hard to redshirt as a D3? How did these grad transfers get the extra year of eligibility?
Many had an extra covid year, if their schools didn't play in 2021 then they got two more years. So there will be a few next year too.
oh duh. that was dense of me. thank you. Following adbono's thread, I have a 2025 rehabbing LHP who has a dream of playing D1 at some point. But due to academics he should probably go to a D3 instead of juco. Think there is a way for him (after COVID redshirt era over) to preserve an extra year to go D1 as a grad student? He'd have to med redshirt a year right?
@Dadbelly2023 posted:oh duh. that was dense of me. thank you. Following adbono's thread, I have a 2025 rehabbing LHP who has a dream of playing D1 at some point. But due to academics he should probably go to a D3 instead of juco. Think there is a way for him (after COVID redshirt era over) to preserve an extra year to go D1 as a grad student? He'd have to med redshirt a year right?
Why would he need the 2026 season as a medical red shirt? I think many jucos could provide the academic rigor required to transfer to a good D1. Is that your concern with juco?
yes. I admit I'm not familiar with the best academic jucos so I should look into this more. I've mainly been thinking he should go to a high academic D3 to play baseball. The other conflict is he'll probably be a national merit finalist so there are a whole bunch of schools that will give him full tuition or full ride... but he doesn't have the ability to play baseball at most of those (think Alabama, Miss state, A&M, texas tech, etc...) Free college sounds good to me but he wants to play baseball.