Anyone see this yet?
James Paxton
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SI - I follow sports pretty closely here and had not heard ONE single thing about this which in my mind means it must not be considered a very big deal. That's just my personal take on the situation.
I will say that I am not personally a huge fan of AD, Barnhart. With that said though, I'm sure he'd tell any player they must cooperate with NCAA investigation to continue to participate. That doesn't seem odd to me. Now, Barnhart telling someone they couldn't share info with a lawyer or parents.... that is odd and I have a difficult time imagining that truly happening.
Thanks for this link though. I always thought Paxton was a very good pitcher and wish him well.... even if his story seems a bit odd from what is shared in this one article.
I will say that I am not personally a huge fan of AD, Barnhart. With that said though, I'm sure he'd tell any player they must cooperate with NCAA investigation to continue to participate. That doesn't seem odd to me. Now, Barnhart telling someone they couldn't share info with a lawyer or parents.... that is odd and I have a difficult time imagining that truly happening.
Thanks for this link though. I always thought Paxton was a very good pitcher and wish him well.... even if his story seems a bit odd from what is shared in this one article.
Here are a couple more links to articles on this issue:
http://kykernel.com/2009/12/02...cher-paxton-sues-uk/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/college/?p=2620
There was a thread earlier this year when this NCAA questionnaire issue and its implications were first first publicized. Picking out this high profile pitcher who failed to sign and returned to college seems like a clear indication the NCAA has targets in view.
What it appears is the player is stuck right in the center.
The NCAA wants to know if he had an agent. Since they don't and cannot regulate agents and/or advisers, they will attempt to do so through the eligibility process of the player, which they can control. I mean "control."
Sounds like they notify Kentucky and use the final year of eligibility at Kentucky as the way to get the player to cooperate.
Whether he was actually told he could not talk with his parents, a lawyer or anyone else, and who and why he was told that will be intriguing information, if true.
For a lawsuit to have been filed may well mean informal efforts to address and resolve the issues have failed. If this might be correct, every draft eligible player who is potentially a high pick, and his parents, should follow this matter very closely.
I recently talked with a good friend who is involved in having his son register on the Clearinghouse. His response was "Wow!" The Clearinghouse is no longer just for grades and SAT clearance, from the information he described now being required.
As BA describes, it seems a bit ironic that this senior pitcher is stuck in the middle of this eligibility issue when Kentucky just hired a Coach, for millions, who leaves NCAA issues right behind him wherever he goes.
This player is in a very tough spot:
If he does not cooperate, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates and admits that someone negotiated on his behalf, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates, denies any wrongdoing and that gets contradicted, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates, proves he only had an adviser and everything was done properly per the NCAA requirements, he could be at a disadvantage in negotiating with MLB, and still need to prove his innocence with the NCAA.
My view continues to be that parents of high profile players need to pay very close attention. Hiring lawyers isn't cheap and the process isn't fun!
http://kykernel.com/2009/12/02...cher-paxton-sues-uk/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/college/?p=2620
There was a thread earlier this year when this NCAA questionnaire issue and its implications were first first publicized. Picking out this high profile pitcher who failed to sign and returned to college seems like a clear indication the NCAA has targets in view.
What it appears is the player is stuck right in the center.
The NCAA wants to know if he had an agent. Since they don't and cannot regulate agents and/or advisers, they will attempt to do so through the eligibility process of the player, which they can control. I mean "control."
Sounds like they notify Kentucky and use the final year of eligibility at Kentucky as the way to get the player to cooperate.
Whether he was actually told he could not talk with his parents, a lawyer or anyone else, and who and why he was told that will be intriguing information, if true.
For a lawsuit to have been filed may well mean informal efforts to address and resolve the issues have failed. If this might be correct, every draft eligible player who is potentially a high pick, and his parents, should follow this matter very closely.
I recently talked with a good friend who is involved in having his son register on the Clearinghouse. His response was "Wow!" The Clearinghouse is no longer just for grades and SAT clearance, from the information he described now being required.
As BA describes, it seems a bit ironic that this senior pitcher is stuck in the middle of this eligibility issue when Kentucky just hired a Coach, for millions, who leaves NCAA issues right behind him wherever he goes.
This player is in a very tough spot:
If he does not cooperate, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates and admits that someone negotiated on his behalf, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates, denies any wrongdoing and that gets contradicted, he loses his eligibility;
If he cooperates, proves he only had an adviser and everything was done properly per the NCAA requirements, he could be at a disadvantage in negotiating with MLB, and still need to prove his innocence with the NCAA.
My view continues to be that parents of high profile players need to pay very close attention. Hiring lawyers isn't cheap and the process isn't fun!
Interesting, Boras charges a fee for advisement to get around the NCAA rules?
Wonder if this is going to become a standard.
Wonder if this is going to become a standard.
Just goes to show that the NCAA has absolutely no concern for the welfare of the player and all pretense to the contrary is just that, pretense.
I am sorry to learn that the prior suit settled in such a way as to lift the injunction off the NCAA. Hence the NCAA now wants to pick another fight, and return to bullying people until someone spends tens of thousands of dollars yet again to beat them. It's betting that college students can't afford to do that, or won't do that.
Absolutely despicable.
I am sorry to learn that the prior suit settled in such a way as to lift the injunction off the NCAA. Hence the NCAA now wants to pick another fight, and return to bullying people until someone spends tens of thousands of dollars yet again to beat them. It's betting that college students can't afford to do that, or won't do that.
Absolutely despicable.
And here comes the NCAA again, trying to intimidate its members and athletes into submission. It seems he11 bent on sending a message across collegiate athletics that it can work around the courts to enforce whatever they want.
I hope this thing blows up in their face so that now they will have Oliver in Ohio and Paxton in Kentucky and be 0-2 in the ridiculous enforcement category.
The only place else I can think of that such brazen disregard for peoples best interest is demonstrated, is our elected officials.
I hope this thing blows up in their face so that now they will have Oliver in Ohio and Paxton in Kentucky and be 0-2 in the ridiculous enforcement category.
The only place else I can think of that such brazen disregard for peoples best interest is demonstrated, is our elected officials.