I'm typically one who does not critique umpiring at any level but I wanted to get others opinions on this topic. So I recognize that there is a definite difference between the strike zone called in the MLB then what you see in D1 college ball, but I am seeing a lot of questionable calls in big situations while watching the games during this year's tournament. I wanted to get other's opinions here. Let me know what you think.
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I'll submit this one for review... just thought it was an interesting play...
Bulldog 19 posted:I'll submit this one for review... just thought it was an interesting play...
The umps look great on this. Plate ump immediately signaled the interference. As soon as the out was recorded, the first base ump immediately called time for the delayed dead ball--exactly by the book.
Then the plate ump made the appropriate awards for a CI play on which the batter-runner didn't safely reach first. Then the Louisville coach took the initiative to exercise his choice of accepting the result of the play. Then the crew got together and made the proper placement and award of an out based on the Louisville coach's election. When the Kentucky coach came out, they got together again to make sure they agreed on the answer to whatever he asked. The umps were solid.
The only criticism I have is with the batter-runner for standing at the plate and pointing at the detached mitt instead of hustling on down to first. If he had run it out and put some pressure on the SS who had to leap to field the high hop, they might not have had to accept an out to get the run. If you put the ball in play, run it out.
miker1961 posted:I'm typically one who does not critique umpiring at any level but I wanted to get others opinions on this topic. So I recognize that there is a definite difference between the strike zone called in the MLB then what you see in D1 college ball, but I am seeing a lot of questionable calls in big situations while watching the games during this year's tournament. I wanted to get other's opinions here. Let me know what you think.
I would say that if you have specific ones you can recall, post them here.
Seems like what I've seen has been very solid overall, I can't remember any particular call standing out, and that's a good thing.
During their inning-from-hell in game 2 against Texas A&M, I thought the Davidson F5 who collided with F4 on the pop up had a catch before the ball dropped out. It was in his glove and it stayed there until he was flat on his back. But the ump couldn't have had a better view and I was rooting for Davidson, so....
Brutal way for a Cinderella team to go down.
JCG posted:Seems like what I've seen has been very solid overall, I can't remember any particular call standing out, and that's a good thing.
During their inning-from-hell in game 2 against Texas A&M, I thought the Davidson F5 who collided with F4 on the pop up had a catch before the ball dropped out. It was in his glove and it stayed there until he was flat on his back. But the ump couldn't have had a better view and I was rooting for Davidson, so....
Brutal way for a Cinderella team to go down.
I saw that on SC at the bar...looked like he may have had the ball going to the ground, but there definitely was no voluntary release.
The umpiring has been outstanding in the Super Regionals.
What I find humorous are the fans strike zones for the hosting Super Regional teams. An unbelievable amount of belly aching these umpires have to endure with these major programs.
I found the play here:
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/20...2017-collision-error
He was definitely fully on the ground when the ball dropped and did a good job holding onto it through the collisions with the the 2b and with the ground.
I think he may have blacked out for a half a second and released then, but maybe you could make a case that he held the ball long enough to complete the catch, then released to figure out if he was still in one piece.
He had no business in the neighborhood. Seems like he, SS, and 2b were all having a collective brain fart, so it's hard to pin any blame for the fiasco on anyone but them.
fenwaysouth posted:The umpiring has been outstanding in the Super Regionals.
What I find humorous are the fans strike zones for the hosting Super Regional teams. An unbelievable amount of belly aching these umpires have to endure with these major programs.
Working a conference tournament this year, the host school was playing in our first-round game...my partner on the dish was getting hammered by the TV announcers for having too small of a zone. Then when the last home batter struck out looking with the winning run in scoring position in a 2-1 game, the announcers accused my partner of having a hot date (the game was over in 1:44.) Can't win for losing.
I always think about how in my lifetime, my team has been screwed 1,137 times by umpires/referees while only getting the benefit side of a bad call once.
justbaseball posted:I always think about how in my lifetime, my team has been screwed 1,137 times by umpires/referees while only getting the benefit side of a bad call once.
I think of George Carlin's take on athletes giving credit to God...I feel like that sometimes, since I'm apparently undefeated.
JCG posted:I found the play here:
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/20...2017-collision-error
He was definitely fully on the ground when the ball dropped and did a good job holding onto it through the collisions with the the 2b and with the ground.
I think he may have blacked out for a half a second and released then, but maybe you could make a case that he held the ball long enough to complete the catch, then released to figure out if he was still in one piece.
He had no business in the neighborhood. Seems like he, SS, and 2b were all having a collective brain fart, so it's hard to pin any blame for the fiasco on anyone but them.
"Holding the ball long enough" means maintaining secure possession through the completion of the action until voluntary release.
This release didn't look voluntary.
JCG posted:He was definitely fully on the ground when the ball dropped and did a good job holding onto it through the collisions with the the 2b and with the ground.
I think he may have blacked out for a half a second and released then, but maybe you could make a case that he held the ball long enough to complete the catch, then released to figure out if he was still in one piece.
The first statement means nothing from a rules standpoint in judging whther it was a catch.
As close to 100% of umpires as you will find, especially those skilled enough to work any level of college ball, would disagree with the case you are trying to make. This was NOT a catch. The only possible issue from the views I saw is whether the ball hit the ground after it was dropped.
