Just returned to throwing for the first time since TJ surgery almost 2 years ago, and have noticed a cutting action to both my four and two seam fastballs. This is problematic given my history, and I am looking for fixes to correct this issue. Any suggestions? I have heard thumb placement can have an effect, but switching that up has turned up no positive results.
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Since it has been awhile it is likely you are opening up early causing the cutting action. Make sure your working with a coach who has some experience with post TJ workouts.
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Not sure anyone can give you real advice without seeing you throw. Do you have any video? I'm curious why you don't want movement on your pitches. If you are mechanically sound and your elbow isn't bothering you, movement on your fastballs is a good thing, I would think.
as for why I do not want unintended cutter action, that is partly what put the stress on my elbow that required TJ, in addition to correctable mechanics which I am currently addressing.
NW, I don't think it was the action of the ball that puts the stress on your elbow. You may be doing something wrong with your delivery that causes the cutting action on your fastball and putting the stress on your elbow. Bottom line is, it' not the cutting action of the ball that's causing it, it's mechanics. If I were you, I would get in to see a good pitching instructor and let him know that you are concerned about the stress on your elbow because you see the same ball movement as before. He should be able to either ease your mind letting you know things look good or give you some help with changing something with your mechanics. As I said earlier, I don't think this can be done over the internet, especially without seeing you throw.
NW Knights07 : I am having a hard time equating your TJ to the cutting action on the FB...other than the amount of time you have been off, has resulted in a slight change in your release angle of your hand / wrist on these pitches. The thumb has very little effect on pitch movement....the last finger to touch the baseball at release (middle finger) has the majority of influence on making a pitch move, especially on pitches that break away from the throwing arm (cutter, curve, slider)....the spin makes the ball move, and pitches that move opposite your throwing arm are spinning because of the position of the middle finger...that is the ONLY finger that can create spin in that direction.
Not sure why TJ would change how you are releasing the pitch, but if you want to eliminate the spin (movement), make sure your middle finger is behind the ball at release...any movement of the middle finger to the side of the ball will create the cutting action you are describing.
FYI -- good to know you are addressing mechanics after your TJ...most don't, and only bought time before problems arise again, or hope the replacement ligament will be stronger than the previous.... General rule is the various pitches themselves don't create the elbow injury, however the mechanics of throwing off speed, or any pitch for that matter is the culprit the majority of time.
Regardless, I have always been able to throw strikes, but more importantly, get outs.
I didn't put in all this work to quit and shut it down, so any way I can improve and prolong my career, I will do it.
For everyone suggesting footage, I could provide some possibly next week, but I am limited in what I am allowed to do with my lower half (new scar around the tailbone/butt that I need to protect from tearing) so mound work, and even flat grounds will have to wait for maybe a month or so. What would be the best camera angle to analyze a throwing motion?