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The answer for all those who support Al Queida's right to fly airplanes into our buildings...stay home and don't go see the movie.

Early on after Pearl Harbor in WWII Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Hollywood to join our effort to defeat our enemies and Hollywood responded by releasing a number of films both of fictionized and docudramas.

One of the best was WHY WE FIGHT

My favorite movie CASABLANCA is as relevant today as back then. You have to choose sides and fight for what you believe in.

The movie United 93 is asking all of us to choose sides...I'm with the people on board United 93 that chose to fight and die if necessary to preserve our way of life.

Who are you with???

JMHO
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Seniormom,

My condolences on your loss.

I know very well about family loss at the hands of Al Queida and movies about the incident that took that member away. I am sure you have heard of (if not seen) Black Hawk Down.
My cousin was killed that day and recieved the Congressional Medal Of Honor for his deeds. Unfortunately, Our ability as a nation to remember the horrors of 9/11/01 and 10/3/93 in the world today.

I remember both events as if they occured yesterday. Even now when the national anthem is played before one of my son's basketball or baseball games, I still tear up at the thought of my cousin NEVER getting to see his son play sports or accomplish his goals.

I realize the pain and how the wounds never truely heal. My aunt still attends many of the MOH events and ceremonies that are held each year, but as much as it make her proud of her son, it also makes closure for her a lot harder.

I dont get back to my home town very often, but when I do I always spend time at his grave.
I always leave there in tears and angry. He knew the risks, he had been in special forces for a long time. The circumstances of that operation, the fact we discovered later that it was Al Queida behind it and that the political winds of the time have always made it hard for me to swallow.

I think it will do all the "bleeding heart libs" (who think we routinely abuse the terrorists that we have captured in the past few years) some good to be reminded of WHY we are doing what we are doing in the world.

I am always reminded of some sage old words when it comes to these kinds of people.

"I'll fight to my death to defend your right to be an idiot!"

Hopefully the movie is a factual representation of the events and not full of "literary license" stories. For the sake of your family members and mine, It is a good thing for the country to remember how we felt when we first heard of these events. The people that inflicted this on us are counting on us getting soft over time so they can strike at us again.

From my family to yours, Our prayers & hopes are with you.
I started watching the Flight 93 on A&E last night and found it too painful. It wasn't a movie, there were doomed people on that flight. The hijackers appeared with weapons I still don't understand how they got through the security at that time. There are still so many unanswered questions, let alone the questions surrounding the response, the planning, and the actual perpetrators.

With respect, I don't see the point of a movie-for-profit on the subject.

There are many, many things surrounding that day and its aftermath that we should never forget, ours not being a particularly historically-aware country, but I'm always vaguely befuddled by the "we should never forgets" said about the events of that day. Is there any danger at all of someone referring to the WTC in, say, ten years, and any one of us saying --"You're right, I had forgotten all about that!"

"Ready" isn;t the question, but "why".
Saw the movie last night. I thought it was well made and it moved many people. I think it is an important movie and I also felt emotionally moved by the end of the movie.

I remember in May of 2001 sitting down with my son and my mom having lunch on top ot the Trade Center. It is something I will never forget.

Before making opinions on it please try and see it for yourself and then post.
ny, I've read a number of things on alternative theories to the Official Story as well. Some of it is horse patootie, some of it is thought provoking, hence my comment on unanswered questions.

Good for you for exploring a range of ideas. I have always believed it's unhealthy to swallow whole what you're told by the media, the government, or any Authority without question. There are many avenues of research available to try to look at any question from more than one angle. Were there more people willing to do that, we would have a more responsible citizenry.

AParent, I was raised by the Queen of Denial Wink, so I don't doubt there are people who disregard the imapct of that day, just as people deny the Holocaust happened, or who believe the walk on the moon was staged. But despite what some individuals believe, as a collective people, the day can't be forgotten, just as Oklahoma City or the Kennedy assassination can't be forgotten --- they were seminal events in our modern history.

Not forgetting and not agreeing on how things happened or subsequent events, however, are not the same thing. I'm not suggesting that was your point; just making one of my own.
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I have always believed it's unhealthy to swallow whole what you're told by the media, the government, or any Authority without question. There are many avenues of research available to try to look at any question from more than one angle. Were there more people willing to do that, we would have a more responsible citizenry.


Just for emphasis.
It is kookier to belive that our government would plot against itself than it is for Al-Qaeda to attack us. Their frame of mind, their fanatasism, will be our downfall if we do forget what happened. I have heard people say "we have to keep hearing about 9/11, when are we going to let it go". Never. If we don't continue to pursue the kooks that attacked us, they will definitely come back for more, and they don't care whose watch its on, or what their politics are. They hate our way of life and its up to us, the citizens to protect it or loose it. The Incredible folks on flight 93 showed us what real sacrifice was when they gave up their lives for others. Honor them and their families by seeing this movie. Then get a little backbone and let the wounds hurt a little. Our wounds will never hurt as much as those that lost a close family member.
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Originally posted by AParent:
Orlando,

I once believed as you do, but my eyes have been opened wide as of late.

Yes, there is danger we will forget. If you don't believe that listen to how many people who try to tell the world today that the Holocaust never really happened.


Amen to that. I was going to say something similar but you said it better.
Not entirely sure how one honors the people on board Flight 93 by patronizing a movie by Paul Greengrass. Granted, he was contributing 10% of the first three days' receipts to the planned memorial. But the first three days' 90% and 100% beyond that, is all money going to the corporation.

I know his recreated-documentary style from the powerful work he did on Bloody Sunday, although that was 30 years after the event. Didn't feel I was "honoring" the dead there, though, either.

But that's just me, not much on gestures. I don't think anyone is honoring the troops either, by slapping a Support Our Troops magnetic ribbon on the back of a Hummer with single-digit gas mileage.
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Many good points raised here.....but in my humble opinion there is nothing our enemies would like more than for us to forget.....

.....let down our defenses.....cut back on homeland defense.......

...it may take the private movie industry to keep the memories of 9/11 alive...but so be it.....it's the message that counts....not the messanger.....
Just to give you a hard time Wink, bbbum, 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' was a Peter Finch movie from the early '70's about an unorthodox love triangle. Good film as well, but I remember being a bit taken aback by the title, given the timing.

'Bloody Sunday' is the Paul Greengrass movie (2002) of the events of the second Bloody Sunday, Jan 30, 1970 in Derry City. Simply done in documentary style, and very powerful.

'Sunday Bloody Sunday' was also the title of the U2 song in response not only to The Day, but the relentless nature of The Troubles.

And, just to round things out....after the recent unfortunate naming of the Ben & Jerry St. Patrick's Day flavor (Black & Tan), I expect them to come out with one called 'Bloody Sundae' for next year's offering..... pull_hair
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Originally posted by BBCoach1978:

My oldest son is on his second tour of duty, after being wounded on the first.

I'd go in his place if I could. I thought I served 20 years so that he would not have to.



Thank you for your service to this country.

And thank you for your son's heroic service.

My he and all the other service men and women return home safe.

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