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unusual play

O orcharddowns10+ posts
Did I call this one right?? Pony League baseball, runners on second and third, none out.
Batter hits fly ball to medium left. Both runners tag up, but runner on third leaves early. The left fielder makes the catch and makes a perfect throw to 3rd base. The third baseman catches the throw with foot on the bag, and applies the tag to the runner attempting to advance from second. I ruled a triple play (fly ball caught, runner on third doubled off, and runner on second tagged out attempting to advance). The coach of the offensive team argued, claiming their was no appeal of the runner leaving early. I said it was one continuous play, and no appeal was necessary.
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jjkjjk500+ posts
Unless R3 was attempting to return to 3rd (scrambling back)and the throw simply beat him then you should have waited for a proper appeal by the defense. In other words you just made the apppeal for the defense, when perhaps they didn't know the runner left early. It's up to the defense to appeal this.
G ga_ump10+ posts
jjk is right.

You don't make the appeal for the defense, if the runner leaves early and you saw it then you do nothing and you have a double play. ( a catch, and tag out.) You say nothing unless the play is properly appealed. Appeals are done differently for each group and in HS, I believe any coach or fielder can appeal. The proper appeal process is to get the ball to the pitcher, he steps off the back of the rubber, throws to 3rd with the 3rd baseman on the bag, and says "I would like to appeal the runner leaveing early from 3rd." Then you make a call.

If I said anything wrong here, I know one of you guys will correct me..hehe Smile
Michael S. TaylorMichael S. Taylor1,000+ posts
That is exactly what can occur but if the R3 isn't trying to retag then you have to make an unmistakable appeal. It's the same if you have R1, ball hit to LF. The runner goes halfway. If the catch is made then he retreats to first. If the felder is able to throw it to first before he makes it back then it is a ;ive ball appeal. Everybody knows he left early so there is no mistake what is going on. But when he stays and tags but still leaves early it isn't obvious so then you have to let the ump and others know what you are doing.
C cpttuna10+ posts
in all my years of baseball,in leaving a base early or not on a tag up up,the defense makes an appeal by throwing the ball to that base and verbally appealing. in this case, this was not done. had the third baseman said something when he caught the ball before taging the runner coming from second, then you would have had a triple play. there is no indication here that anyone other than the ump knew the runner left third base too early.

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