Vaccination Benefit

Hi Jay, hope all is well.

There are also protocols for players that have had covid, I am sure that you have checked that out as well.

Looks like many universities will not allow students back to school in fall unless they are vaccinated. Get it done.

I had my first dose in January. Now I heard that by the end of the year I may need another shot?

I'm sure like most summer leagues, my son's league is strongly encouraging all players show up vaccinated.

Son gets his first shot this Tuesday when I get my second one.

A lot of college campuses are telling students they can’t return in the fall with being vaccinated. This will settle the issue.

@RJM posted:

A lot of college campuses are telling students they can’t return in the fall with being vaccinated. This will settle the issue.

agreed, it will settle the issue after the courts rule on it...I highly doubt it won't be challenged.

My wife and I are both fully vaccinated neither of our kids are at this time.

Agreed.  There will be a lot of lawsuits.  It isn't approved and they've already pulled one that kids were "highly encouraged" to take.

It’s going to be a hot topic in youth sports. Cooperstown said they are requiring all players to be vaccinated to participate this year. As you can imagine many teams are pulling out and lots of complaints.

@ARCEKU21 posted:

It’s going to be a hot topic in youth sports. Cooperstown said they are requiring all players to be vaccinated to participate this year. As you can imagine many teams are pulling out and lots of complaints.

is there a worse reason to get vaccinated?

@ARCEKU21 posted:

It’s going to be a hot topic in youth sports. Cooperstown said they are requiring all players to be vaccinated to participate this year. As you can imagine many teams are pulling out and lots of complaints.

Are the vaccine's approved for kids yet in that age?  I think they may be jumping the gun.

@Viking0 posted:

Are the vaccine's approved for kids yet in that age?  I think they may be jumping the gun.

Yes, the current administration has approved Socialism for all ages.

This isn't socialism, it's business.  If a college student doesn't want to get vaccinated, find a college that doesn't require it.  If a baseball player doesn't want to get vaccinated, find a venue that doesn't require it.  If there really are that many people who don't want the vaccine, then someone will seek to fill that need.  If you want what someone is offering, you play by their rules; if too many people pull out, they will re-think the rules.

I call that capitalism, myself.

There's also social pressure.  Surely there were social (at least) penalties for being the person who tested covid-positive and caused your team to have to sit out games?

And no, vaccines are not yet approved for under 16, so the Cooperstown thing must be rumor.

I know people whose attitude is, if a have to wear a mask and things are still shut down why bother to get vaccinated. They said when things open up they will get the shot.

I got mine because being 66 gave me priority. It’s a mess now that’s it’s come one, come all. I was never worried about dying from Covid. I’m fit and healthy. I haven’t had the flu since I was twelve. Healthy people who aren’t prone to getting the flu had real low odds of getting Covid. I flew over Thanksgiving and took the train at Christmas. I went to a BBQ last summer. I had ten people over for the Super Bowl.

A friend’s wife hasn’t been out of the house for a year other to get in the car and drive someplace there weren’t people. She wouldn’t let him near me for two weeks after I traveled even though I returned and tested negative.*

I only know one person (early thirties) who got Covid and got real sick. As a prosecutor in another state my daughter is a county employee. Getting vaccinated was optional.

The last year should have been ... Here are the risks. Here’s how you avoid the risk. Make adult decisions. We’re the government, not your mommy.

* I need to go somewhere in public the day after returning on a flight. Testing negative allowed me to be in public. The foolishness of this rule is I could have tested positive any of the following ten days.

@Viking0 posted:

Are the vaccine's approved for kids yet in that age?  I think they may be jumping the gun.

The vaccines are for 16 and older.

@old_school posted:

agreed, it will settle the issue after the courts rule on it...I highly doubt it won't be challenged.

My wife and I are both fully vaccinated neither of our kids are at this time.

Remember the old signs in restaurants..."No shirt, No shoes, No service"?  

Private colleges can do whatever they want but you're right the public colleges may have an issue requiring vaccinations.  

However, as it stands now, elementary schools in all 50 states and DC already require vaccinations for diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis; polio; measles and rubella (49 states and DC also require mumps vaccination); and the varicella (chickenpox) vaccination.  So there is already a precedent for requiring vaccinations...might not be a stretch to add COVID to the list.

SoCal the difference is all those vaccines are approved. The vaccine makers can't be sued but colleges can. Any healthy person under 30 has a far greater risk from the vaccine than they do from the virus.

There is no FDA approval for any of them and you don't have to be vaccinated with any of those to go to school, even private schools that require them.  You fill out a vaccine exemption form and get it notorized.  They require a new one every two years.

I am not arguing a side just Have the opinion that it won’t be agreed upon...

@anotherparent posted:

This isn't socialism, it's business.  If a college student doesn't want to get vaccinated, find a college that doesn't require it.  If a baseball player doesn't want to get vaccinated, find a venue that doesn't require it.  If there really are that many people who don't want the vaccine, then someone will seek to fill that need.  If you want what someone is offering, you play by their rules; if too many people pull out, they will re-think the rules.

I call that capitalism, myself.

There's also social pressure.  Surely there were social (at least) penalties for being the person who tested covid-positive and caused your team to have to sit out games?

And no, vaccines are not yet approved for under 16, so the Cooperstown thing must be rumor.

Not rumor. It's on their website. They are even requiring spectators 12 and old to be vaccinated.

https://www.cooperstowndreamsp...m/2021-season-update

They are in NY...i am surprised you are allowed in.