whats the best way to increase velocity for pitching
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work on forearms and long toss on a regular basis. thats what helped me.
quote:Originally posted by K22:
whats the best way to increase velocity for pitching
Its case by case. Not all pitchers have the same faults. Its difficult and unfair to paint velo mechanics with one broad stroke of the brush.
Can you post a video of yourself?
quote:work on forearms and log toss on a regular basis. thats what helped me
How long should the log be?
Increased velocity will come from improving your mechanics, growing stronger and getting bigger.
The latter is pretty much out of your control. Just make sure you get enough protein (and that can be done with regular foods, it doesn't have to be supplements).
As you work on strength training, just be sure to use a baseball oriented program. Conditioning is a part of this as well.
A top notch pitching coach (which is often difficult to find) can help with the mechanics.
You need to work on both mechanics and strength.
The latter is pretty much out of your control. Just make sure you get enough protein (and that can be done with regular foods, it doesn't have to be supplements).
As you work on strength training, just be sure to use a baseball oriented program. Conditioning is a part of this as well.
A top notch pitching coach (which is often difficult to find) can help with the mechanics.
You need to work on both mechanics and strength.
quote:Originally posted by JDsDad:quote:work on forearms and log toss on a regular basis. thats what helped me
How long should the log be?
And do they have to wear one of those funny plaid skirts while tossing the log?
All of our logs are 3 ft long. However, we use both underweight and overweight logs. 
Seriously speaking, overload/underload training with overweight and underweight balls has been proven to help increase velocity for most players. There are those who will dispute this and there are those who don't think it is safe.
Many, including me, believe that long toss can help increase velocity, however it has not been proven through scientific studies.
Some believe that building bulk/strength through weight training will help. Personally, although I think it works for hitters I think the benefits for most pitchers are pretty limited.
The other way to increase velocity is improved mechanics if there is something in your mechanics that is limiting your velocity.
Seriously speaking, overload/underload training with overweight and underweight balls has been proven to help increase velocity for most players. There are those who will dispute this and there are those who don't think it is safe.
Many, including me, believe that long toss can help increase velocity, however it has not been proven through scientific studies.
Some believe that building bulk/strength through weight training will help. Personally, although I think it works for hitters I think the benefits for most pitchers are pretty limited.
The other way to increase velocity is improved mechanics if there is something in your mechanics that is limiting your velocity.
K22 you have a PM
quote:Originally posted by CADad:
Some believe that building bulk/strength through weight training will help. Personally, although I think it works for hitters I think the benefits for most pitchers are pretty limited.
Which? Bulk or strength?
Two very different things. Two different type of training programs. Football type training is not optimum for baseball players, I would agree.
But I can state that a baseball oriented strength program did wonders for Texan Son's pitching in terms of velocity. These type programs stress flexibility as well.
quote:Originally posted by CADad:
Seriously speaking, overload/underload training with overweight and underweight balls has been proven to help increase velocity for most players.
I totally disagree. Bum, Jr. does not use overload/underload training. Just long-toss/throw 4-5x week, eat right, get in cardio and plyometrics on a regular and consistent basis, band work and thrower's 10, and proper mechanical training. That's what's worked for him.
Bum,
You didn't disagree with me. I didn't say overload/underload was the only way to go. I simply said it has been proven to help. My son does the same things your son does. As long as that seems to work we won't go to the weighted balls.
Texan,
Bulk is what helps hitters the most, unless they become muscle bound, although strength can help too. In fact, as hitters bulk up they need to increase their strength to be able to rotate as fast in order to take advantage of the increased bulk. I personally don't think bulk helps most pitchers and I don't think strength gains play a big role unless there is a specific weakpoint that needs to be addressed and the arm can move fast enough to take advantage of the added strength. Too many rail thin pitchers who throw hard for me to believe strength is a major player in pitching. That doesn't mean balanced strength with flexibility is something to be avoided.
You didn't disagree with me. I didn't say overload/underload was the only way to go. I simply said it has been proven to help. My son does the same things your son does. As long as that seems to work we won't go to the weighted balls.
Texan,
Bulk is what helps hitters the most, unless they become muscle bound, although strength can help too. In fact, as hitters bulk up they need to increase their strength to be able to rotate as fast in order to take advantage of the increased bulk. I personally don't think bulk helps most pitchers and I don't think strength gains play a big role unless there is a specific weakpoint that needs to be addressed and the arm can move fast enough to take advantage of the added strength. Too many rail thin pitchers who throw hard for me to believe strength is a major player in pitching. That doesn't mean balanced strength with flexibility is something to be avoided.
The point is, strength doesn't have to equate to "bulk".
And some of those rail thin pitchers have pretty darn good muscle definition, it just doesn't show under a loose jersey.
I have seen baseball strength programs help pitchers increase velocity. No significant physical growth occurred, no changes in mechanics. Just a good strength training and conditioning program. Result: more mph.
And some of those rail thin pitchers have pretty darn good muscle definition, it just doesn't show under a loose jersey.
I have seen baseball strength programs help pitchers increase velocity. No significant physical growth occurred, no changes in mechanics. Just a good strength training and conditioning program. Result: more mph.
