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New to the site although I've been reading for a few weeks this is my first topic post.  Great insight, LOVE all the helpful information.  My son is a pitcher, he turned 11 yrs old last week, plays 10u travel and will be going into Middle School JV ball next spring as a 6th grader.  I know all kids are different and it's impossible to know how hard a kid will be throwing 7 years from now but can some of you with sons who are current or former HS/College pitchers provide me with some form of baseline as to your sons velocity progression from 6th - 12th grade?

 

I've seen many responses and topics on velocity but none that go back into the early pre-puberty 10-11 yr old range all the way to HS Sr.  Thanks for any information your willing to provide!

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Bum, Jr. threw 62 at age 12.  He was the smallest kid on his team.  One of the coaches had a radar gun and clocked him.  Three or four kids on his team threw harder but none of them currently play the game.  He threw maybe 65 at 13, 68 at 14, 72 at 15, 80 at 16, 89 at 17, and tapered off from there to cruising 88-91 tops 92.

 

Still the shortest pitcher on his team but good enough to play professionally.

 

Trust me when I say it matters NOT how hard you throw at 11.  The hardest throwers then are actually at a disadvantage as their arms are often toast by the time they get to h.s. due to overuse.  Bum, Jr. rarely pitched until 13.

Velocity gains aren't a linear thing, either. We had a HS sophomore go from 70-79 within 6 weeks of training, then sit there for months despite training his butt off.


3-4 months later, he now cruises at 86 and can hit 88 a few times per game. 

 

But measuring velo and making that the focus below high school is not the right idea. Keep the game fun and don't overuse them on the mound.

Originally Posted by Bum:

Bum, Jr. threw 62 at age 12.  He was the smallest kid on his team.  One of the coaches had a radar gun and clocked him.  Three or four kids on his team threw harder but none of them currently play the game.  He threw maybe 65 at 13, 68 at 14, 72 at 15, 80 at 16, 89 at 17, and tapered off from there to cruising 88-91 tops 92.

 

I would say my son was pretty much in line with the numbers here shown for Bum Jr. +2.

 

Originally Posted by Bum:

Still the shortest pitcher on his team but good enough to play professionally.


 

As for my son's height, he's 6' 2" just finished his Jr. year at college. . . to help with some perspective.

 

Originally Posted by Bum:

Trust me when I say it matters NOT how hard you throw at 11.  The hardest throwers then are actually at a disadvantage as their arms are often toast by the time they get to h.s. due to overuse.  Bum, Jr. rarely pitched until 13.

 
I also agree that is really doesn't matter how hard a kid throws at age 11.  Kids go through a great deal of changes.   But you don't want to damage the arm early and need to particularly take care of those growth plates that are so soft until they harden at about age 17.  At age 11 through 17 pitchers tend to be among the better athletes of a team.  So, if you're kid shows good athleticism early on, then they'll be able to develop their velocity well for what ever position they might play.

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