Just a thought here but exactly how much $$$ does it cost to go to Villanova? $40,000 plus?
So a kid gets offered a 30% scholarship and still has to pay $28,000 to go there, right? I'm not knocking that, if someone wants to pay that amount but as a recruiter from Villanova it must make their job very difficult.
I mean, how many of us can afford that? The price tag to go to a school like that has to be out of reach for many people. They still only have 11.7 scholarships to give. If you have a 30 on the ACT it probably helps bring more money your way but again, not too many kids have a score like that either.
That has to be a tough place to recruit. More power to them!
Well said, NC42dad. I stated before that too many parents are "hung up" over whether or not their kid plays D1. All our sons should be going to college for education; very few will ever get drafted yet alone make the majors. Most will be minor league roster fillers for a few years and then have to go to work. Talent is talent. Yes, more players might get drafted from D1 but plenty get drafted from JUCO, D3 and high scool.
The advantage of a D3 school, if your son has the grades, is the academic scholarship. That can be 100%. Plus, if he gets hurt or loses interest in baseball, he still has his scholarship. Most D3 schools are small to medium size schools that are academically superior to many of the larger colleges. When we went to Richmond we toured 6 schools, including Villanova and Penn. None give "merit" scholarships, all now give need based. Case Western, ranked 41st (academics) in the country still gives merit based, up to 100%. So, for stressing education, plus the potential cost of
it, I'd rather point my son towards D3. In addition, he'd have a better chance of being a starter, in the event he does want to play ball.
Look at today's Tribune. They mention a Notre Dame freshman from Chicago who was "the man" in high school. Now, he's not even second on the depth chart. The talent gets better at each level. All I know is the senior year came too fast! It's been a very enjoyable 3 years, with perhaps only 1 more left!
The advantage of a D3 school, if your son has the grades, is the academic scholarship. That can be 100%. Plus, if he gets hurt or loses interest in baseball, he still has his scholarship. Most D3 schools are small to medium size schools that are academically superior to many of the larger colleges. When we went to Richmond we toured 6 schools, including Villanova and Penn. None give "merit" scholarships, all now give need based. Case Western, ranked 41st (academics) in the country still gives merit based, up to 100%. So, for stressing education, plus the potential cost of
it, I'd rather point my son towards D3. In addition, he'd have a better chance of being a starter, in the event he does want to play ball.
Look at today's Tribune. They mention a Notre Dame freshman from Chicago who was "the man" in high school. Now, he's not even second on the depth chart. The talent gets better at each level. All I know is the senior year came too fast! It's been a very enjoyable 3 years, with perhaps only 1 more left!
I doubt they were on their radar. That's why they came out here to take a look at some Illinois kids. I can see it misleading saying it's a Villanova/PBR workout, they probably used PBR to solicit the illinois kids as they have no pull out here. I can see where you'd think there would have been more schools there. The St. Ignatius kid was an unknown type of kid, don't think he was at many showcases before this one. I think that he's a good example of having some tools, being unknown, impressing at a showcase and getting an offer. The realities of getting into Villanova are just what NC dad said. I am surprised that many people showed up to that camp as it is, I am sure there were people there that didn't have close to the grades to get into NOVA and it became a huge waste of time for them, other than getting the experience of how a showcase/camp is run. But that just shows you how many people don't do their homework and just throw money out there to whatever showcase it is whether it's PBR, PG, etc and automatically think cause they are paying for something a scholarship is bound to come.
Well said BBFan58!
There is nothing wrong with playing baseball somewhere other than a D-1. My Dad wanted me to take the D-1 route (which I did) & I wanted to play at a JUCO (AZ) and keep my draft eligibility. Both my kids (and others) have heard the story/outcome.
Now 30 years later, it is funny because my Mom says that the JUCO route would have been the better choice.
Find a fit, and start thinking ahead to life after baseball. Being a high school baseball player does not necessarily mean you are academically "4 year college material." There are a lot of great careers out there that only require 2 year degrees.....
IMO. Find the best fit academically first. I still wouldn't want to be the recruiter at the Villanovas of the world. It has got to be tough.
There is nothing wrong with playing baseball somewhere other than a D-1. My Dad wanted me to take the D-1 route (which I did) & I wanted to play at a JUCO (AZ) and keep my draft eligibility. Both my kids (and others) have heard the story/outcome.
Now 30 years later, it is funny because my Mom says that the JUCO route would have been the better choice.
Find a fit, and start thinking ahead to life after baseball. Being a high school baseball player does not necessarily mean you are academically "4 year college material." There are a lot of great careers out there that only require 2 year degrees.....
IMO. Find the best fit academically first. I still wouldn't want to be the recruiter at the Villanovas of the world. It has got to be tough.
Paul Rambaud (I don't remeber the spelling, but I know the earlier poster spelled it wrong) was a Clubber and on the Windy City Wildcats. He played at St. Ignatius. Why is he an "unknown type of kid"?
My son was asked by the Villanova Coach to attend. He was offered a spot, but needs to get his ACT score up a bit (I didn't do my homework). His grades are fine, however. I guess the coaches weren't wasting their time. I know Niko did well on his ACT's. That is huge.
My son's high school coach just set up a meeting with my wife, my son, the ex-coach and himself. A class move. They want to talk about his college options. Some coaches DO help.
You never know where the contact will be made that makes the difference.
My son was asked by the Villanova Coach to attend. He was offered a spot, but needs to get his ACT score up a bit (I didn't do my homework). His grades are fine, however. I guess the coaches weren't wasting their time. I know Niko did well on his ACT's. That is huge.
My son's high school coach just set up a meeting with my wife, my son, the ex-coach and himself. A class move. They want to talk about his college options. Some coaches DO help.
You never know where the contact will be made that makes the difference.
Paul Rambaud, from Ignatius is a premier lead off hitter with speed and is an excellent center fielder too. He has been on my radar screen as a player to watch for a while and has distinguished himself at Ignatius coming through in the clutch for them on more than one occassion.
Yes, he is one of the original Clubbers. He never has been an unknown.
Good going......Congrats!
Yes, he is one of the original Clubbers. He never has been an unknown.
Good going......Congrats!
I don't think Villanova remembered him from when he was 14 years old on the Clubber team. I think that camp did wonders for him because I doubt Villanova knew who he was before. If Niko committed there it was also because of the camp. He played with a high profile travel program all summer and went to many events, the first time Villanova came to Illinios this year was for that camp, so the camp did do wonders for some kids and camps can be good for you to get noticed was my point. It's just being in the right place at the right time, not necessarily going to every single event that's offered or playing for a particular summer team.
The original Clubber team was with 12-U players.
I am quite sure that his playing on that Clubber team had nothing to do with anything in his development as a player. Rambaud was playing s****r and was exceptionally fast and a good hitter then. Burrage, Levy, McElveen and Walsh were among the other standout players.
Nothing more than a point of reference.
I am quite sure that his playing on that Clubber team had nothing to do with anything in his development as a player. Rambaud was playing s****r and was exceptionally fast and a good hitter then. Burrage, Levy, McElveen and Walsh were among the other standout players.
Nothing more than a point of reference.
Congrats to St. Ignatius Rambaud and Gomez on their choice of Villanova. They join Carl Fiebig, Dain Hall and Chris Pack as local kids playing there.