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UVa is light years ahead of Tech in the coaching dept. Now I know Hartman is a HOF coach and has won a bizillion games but its time to turn the program over to a new regime and new blood. There recruiting needs to be upgraded and more aggressive.

Hey, spell that name right:

Virginia Tech!

Hokie,



CV

When Chuck finally retires, it would be a shame if they don't give Jaybird the chance he certainly deserves.

Coaching aside is Vtech committed to baseball? The facilities are lacking and in no way are close to the other ACC schools.

We played a 3 game series at VT last spring...and by no means did the facilities appear lacking...other than a slight drainage problem. The field was in great shape, the stands were first rate as were the concessions. I can't speak for the locker rooms...but I heard no complaints. I have been to the facilities at Ga. Tech, NC State, UNC, UVA, Duke, and Miami. I'd say Va. Tech's faclities rank with those.

I'm a Hokie(alumni)thru and thru so I would like to agree that the baseball field/stadium is as nice as NC State or UVA, but that just isn't the case. English field just doesn't compare to the field/stadium of many other ACC schools. Now I expect the training facilities that are shared with the football team are first rate. Access to top notch trainers, strength and conditioning coaches and the weight room have got to be a given. I'm confident Hartman, Phillips and the rest of the baseball coaches are quite good.

One more thing on not so positive a note, Blacksburg in Feburary has got to be a miserably cold place to play baseball. I went there for 4 years and buddy, its cold.

If Hartman does retire this year I hope they give Jay Phillips the shot he deserves at the top position.

estimator, what are you smoking? Techs facilities don't come close to any of those schools you mentioned. The looker rooms aren't even located at the baseball field. Maybe your comparing them to VCU's facilities. OH what facilities

I agree, when Coach Hartman retires Coach Phillips should be given the opportunity to be the head coach.

I can't see where giving JP the job would do anything to upgrade the program. He is in charge of recruiting and if you look at the records of Tech teams the last few years they have been average at best. UVa didn't give their head job to a long time assistant they went outside and got a young hungry coach who has lifted the program quickly to a higher level. UVa also has the best assistant coaches in the state which has improved their program as well. IMHO its the same approach I think Tech should use.

Local8SS, I understand where your coming from and I agree about everything you said about UVA. Tech has been in the ACC for what 2 seasons let's see how Jaybird recruits the next couple of years. You know, there is that thing called loyalty.

As an outside observer, with no vested interest, of the Tech program, I think the "average" recruiting of the past few years can be summed up in three simple words: "The Big East", and that the recruiting boom that will be sure to follow over this and the next several years can be summed up in three simple letters: A-C-C.

Smallball, Sorry to ruin your "dig", but I don't smoke. And what is your point about VCU's facilities? Granted last year's left a lot to be desired...but I'd say The Diamond is fairly top notch for a college program...whether it belongs to VCU or not. And you attended college and played baseball where?

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Originally posted by estimator:
...but I'd say The Diamond is fairly top notch for a college program...whether it belongs to VCU or not. And you attended college and played baseball where?

Estimator, I respect your right to your opinion, but VCU and VT facilities do not compare to other facilities in ACC. If you are comparing them to Big South, or CAA you may be right.

I mentioned the facilities due to the impact it has on a recruit. You have a Baseball field literally in the shadow a heck of a football stadium and all of its facilities. While at the baseball field you have seating for 300-500 (I'm guessing) and as far as I know no locker room, players lounge, indoor batting or pitching facilities at the field. I would recommend that you look at the other ACC facilities (UVA), and if all other factors were even (which they are not)and see where you would want to play.

VT will need to outshine or match the other ACC schools in someway to get the same caliber and # of recruits on a consistent basis.

Look at the early signings
VT 3
UVA 9
UNC 14
Georgia Tech 7

I don't think the signing of only 3 players was be design.

I am not trying to put VT down just that if they want to compete in the ACC in baseball they will need to invest in the program starting with facilities.

as quoted by estimator: have been to the facilities at Ga. Tech, NC State, UNC, UVA, Duke, and Miami. I'd say Va. Tech's faclities rank with those.

UVA

GA Tech

NC State Once on the page click on the renovations photo link pretty nice!

ECU

The "U"

I saw this and I could not resist to repond. I think that everyone needs a reality check when it comes to your childs future, their potential to play professional sports beyond college and a logical college selection based on academics.
Please encourage your prospective college bound student to choose a school on the basis of what is in his or hers educational career goals, don't choose a school because it has the best pitching coach.

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Originally posted by PATM:
I saw this and I could not resist to repond. I think that everyone needs a reality check when it comes to your childs future, their potential to play professional sports beyond college and a logical college selection based on academics.
Please encourage your prospective college bound student to choose a school on the basis of what is in his or hers educational career goals, don't choose a school because it has the best pitching coach.

PATM..I agree that education is most important...however the original question was in reference to the baseball team which led to facilities of various schools. Obviously not everyone can go to UVA nor are they recruited necessarily by each school.

I'm not going to get into the whole UVA vs VT debate but I don't think this discussion has anything to do with the educational aspect of a students choice...and there are a number of other factors besides strictly education on why kids choose schools (not to mention academic standards, SATs, financial), otherwise everyone would go to an ivy league or a few select others.

If you ar new here Welcome! There have been plenty of discussions on choosing schools posted on the board that you will be able to find.

Not everyone WANTS to go to UVA either....

Good one hok!

(about as exciting as it gets at a game)

2006 STANDINGS as of April 10
Conference Overall
Atlantic W-L Pct. W-L Pct.
Florida State 12-3 .800 31-4 .886
Clemson 9-3 .750 24-8 .750
NC State 10-5 .667 27-9 .750
Wake Forest 9-6 .600 25-10 .714
Maryland 6-12 .333 14-20 .412
Boston College 4-11 .267 17-15 .531


Conference Overall
Coastal W-L Pct. W-L Pct.
North Carolina 9-6 .600 27-7 .794
Miami 9-6 .600 24-12 .667
Georgia Tech 8-7 .533 25-8 .758
Virginia 8-7 .533 27-9 .750
Duke 4-11 .267 11-26 .297
Virginia Tech 2-13 .133 13-19 .406

Its time for a change, a complete change at Va. Tech. And a great choice would be just down the road in Lexington. Marlin Ikenberry would be a fantastic choice, a great recruiter and a solid baseball guy for the Hokies

Already this year, eight teams in the ACC were ranked within the Top 25 of each of the polls.

Today, I am reading Miami recently and amazingly dropped out of the top 25.

The ACC Tournament (in Jacksonville) will seed only the top eight teams. (This is new this year, and marks the end of what was commonly known as "The Maryland Invitational".)

The ACC Commissioner and top ACC teams thinks that seeding is grand. The AD's of the bottom ACC teams remain silent on the subject. Like many in USA who root for the underdog, I too think it stinks. And I might add, a few analysts, arguably point out in pre-season that 12-13 wins in conference play in 2006, get's an ACC team into the top 8 seed and play at Jacksonville. It may not be enough! Wow!

From the ACC Tourney view point
(as of April 12), here's what it looks like.

Florida St..... 12-3 .800 31-4 .886
Clemson........ 9-3 .750 24-8 .750
NC St.......... 10-5 .667 27-9 .750
UNC.............. 9-6 .600 27-7 .794
WF............... 9-6 .600 25-10 .714
Miami............ 9-6 .600 24-12 .667
Ga Tech........ 8-7 .533 25-8 .758
UVA.............. 8-7 .533 27-9 .750
Maryland....... 6-12 .333 16-20 .444
BC............... 4-11 .267 17-15 .531
Duke............ 4-11 .267 11-26 .297
VT............... 2-13 .133 13-19 .406

quote:

Originally posted by Local8SS:
Its time for a change, a complete change at Va. Tech. And a great choice would be just down the road in Lexington. Marlin Ikenberry would be a fantastic choice, a great recruiter and a solid baseball guy for the Hokies

Interesting choice, any other suggestions? Should a ACC asst. be considered (not from VT)...

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Originally posted by Bear:
Already this year, eight teams in the ACC were ranked within the Top 25 of each of the polls.

Today, I am reading Miami recently and amazingly dropped out of the top 25.

The ACC Tournament (in Jacksonville) will seed only the top eight teams. (This is new this year, and marks the end of what was commonly known as "The Maryland Invitational".)

The ACC Commissioner and top ACC teams thinks that seeding is grand. The AD's of the bottom ACC teams remain silent on the subject. Like many in USA who root for the underdog, I too think it stinks. And I might add, a few analysts, arguably point out in pre-season that 12-13 wins in conference play in 2006, get's an ACC team into the top 8 seed and play at Jacksonville. It may not be enough! Wow!

Would seeding top 10 be better? (of course Bears Terps would get in lol). After the top 8 there is quite a drop off.

Does seeding only the top 8 give incentive to VT and Maryland to get off their butts and decide to compete in the ACC?

How do other conferences handle their tourneys?

Depends on the conference. The Big South sends only the top 6. Makes for a screwy double elimination bracket, but that's what the coaches voted for.

Question:
How is the seeding handled for the ACC tourney? Specifically, does the top team in each division get the #1 and #2 seeds? It appears from Bear's post that would NOT be the case. Or is it strictly record? Otherwise, why did they set up two divisions? For other sports?

Can anyone confirm?

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Originally posted by Novice Dad:

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Originally posted by Local8SS:
Its time for a change, a complete change at Va. Tech. And a great choice would be just down the road in Lexington. Marlin Ikenberry would be a fantastic choice, a great recruiter and a solid baseball guy for the Hokies

Interesting choice, any other suggestions? Should a ACC asst. be considered (not from VT)...

1) I don't see them handing over an ACC team to a Big South coach. Recruiting against ACC teams is a totally different ball game than against the Big South. Although Slater went to an SEC school, they were already familiar with him from his days as an asst. under Coach Baird.

2) I am sure that Bobby Miranda's name will surface when the vacancy occurs.

BUMP....still looking for clarification on seedings for ACC tourney.....see my post above...

My Hokies aren't helping themselves getting blown out...by Duke...at home..on TV this afternoon. Last time I looked, it was 15-1. We played Duke's basketball team closer then their baseball team. Just unreal......

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Originally posted by hokieone:
My Hokies aren't helping themselves getting blown out...by Duke...at home..on TV this afternoon. Last time I looked, it was 15-1. We played Duke's basketball team closer then their baseball team. Just unreal......

It looked ugly...7 BB 16 hits 5 BB in the first 3 innings. Coach looked exhausted/frustrated by 2nd inning

quote:

Originally posted by Novice Dad:
Would seeding top 10 be better? (of course Bears Terps would get in lol). After the top 8 there is quite a drop off.

Does seeding only the top 8 give incentive to VT and Maryland to get off their butts and decide to compete in the ACC?

How do other conferences handle their tourneys?

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Say Rook,

Several points.

a) Play-in Game
The play-in game at the ACC Tournament has been around for years. For 2006, the ACC has two tiers, the top eight, and the bottom four. Many Maryland fans look forward to the "Maryland Invitational"

2. Recruiting.
Univ of Maryland Baseball is the last ACC team
that is NOT fully funded. Call it gender equity,
call it Prop 39, call it b.s.

3. Baseball Scholarships
Increase the NCAA limits on Scholarships.
On a side note, the NCAA should elevate the # of baseball scholarships from 11.7 to 15.
OBTW: Womans Softball is fully funded at 13!

4. Other Conference Tournaments
It's conference specific.

5. Attitude.
Lose the attitude - Rook! lol

cheers,
Bear


OBTW: ACC Tourney seeds Top Eight

(Standings As Of April 26)

School Pct. Overall Pct.

North Carolina 15-6-0 .714 36- 8-0 .818
Clemson........ 12-6-0 .667 30-13-0 .698
Wake Forest.. 14-7-0 .667 30-14-0 .682
Virginia......... 13-8-0 .619 35-10-0 .778
Florida St...... 13-8-0 .619 33-10-0 .767
Georgia Tech..13-8-0 .619 32-10-0 .762
NC State...... 13-8-0 .619 31-13-0 .705
Miami........... 12-9-0 .571 27-15-0 .643
Maryland....... 7-17-0 .292 20-25-0 .444
Duke............ 6-15-0 .286 14-30-0 .318
Boston Coll.....5-16-0 .238 23-20-1 .534
Virginia Tech. 3-18-0 .143 17-24-0 .415

quote:

Originally posted by Bear:]
Say Rook,

Several points.

a) Play-in Game
The play-in game at the ACC Tournament has been around for years. For 2006, the ACC has two tiers, the top eight, and the bottom four. Many Maryland fans look forward to the "Maryland Invitational"
Was the "Maryland Invitational" called that because thats the only part of the tourney that UMD made?COLOR]

[COLOR:BLACK]2. Recruiting.
I understand that MD is the one not to fully fund...thats a UMD issue, and maybe not making the tourney might affect the way they fund or underfund baseball there.

3. Baseball Scholarships
Increase the NCAA limits on Scholarships.
On a side note, the NCAA should elevate the # of baseball scholarships from 11.7 to 15.
If Maryland is only funding 1/2 the scholarships now why would 15 make a difference? OBTW 15 is not one of the numbers that has been discussed by NCAA
OBTW: Womans Softball is fully funded at 13!
Again a UMD issue

4. Other Conference Tournaments
It's conference specific.

5. Attitude.
Lose the attitude - Rook! lol
If u were talking to me??? theres no attitude

cheers,
Bear

OBTW: ACC Tourney seeds Top Eight