Walk on ball 3

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
Here's the situation runners on 1st and 2nd, 1out. With a count of 2 balls and 2 strikes the batter takes of for first and reaches 1st. The runners on 1st and 2nd advance to 2nd and 3rd....QUESTION When do call time and when do you bring the runner on first back to the plate?

After all action is complete, I'm bringing batter back to the plate. All other advances are legal. It's up to the defense to know the situation, too.

I was told "Under HS rules, after they are done, the batter is charged a strike (strike 3) for leaving the batters box and delaying the game. The other runners are credited with a stolen base."
Where would I find this in the rule book?

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
I was told "Under HS rules, after they are done, the batter is charged a strike (strike 3) for leaving the batters box and delaying the game. The other runners are credited with a stolen base."
Where would I find this in the rule book?

7-3-1.

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
I was told "Under HS rules, after they are done, the batter is charged a strike (strike 3) for leaving the batters box and delaying the game. The other runners are credited with a stolen base."
Where would I find this in the rule book?

And any umpire that does this won't find too many Varsity games in his future.

While, technically, the umpire would be right, it's a call that's better left for times when you've asked the batter to return to the box already. Simply doing it when the batter mistakes the count and begins a trot to 1B is grabbing the dirty end of the stick.

Think about this: 3-1 count. Pitch is thrown and batter thinks it's ball 4. As most batters do, he begins his trot to 1B as umpire calls the strike. Do you expect the umpire to then immediately call strike 3 because the batter left the box?

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Originally posted by yawetag:


Think about this: 3-1 count. Pitch is thrown and batter thinks it's ball 4. As most batters do, he begins his trot to 1B as umpire calls the strike. Do you expect the umpire to then immediately call strike 3 because the batter left the box?

25 years ago it was SOP.

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
25 years ago it was SOP.

This amazes me.

I would NEVER even consider calling him out..could NOT do it.

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:

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Originally posted by yawetag:


Think about this: 3-1 count. Pitch is thrown and batter thinks it's ball 4. As most batters do, he begins his trot to 1B as umpire calls the strike. Do you expect the umpire to then immediately call strike 3 because the batter left the box?

25 years ago it was SOP.

As it was less than 15 years ago when I was playing.

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Originally posted by yawetag:

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
25 years ago it was SOP.

This amazes me.

NFHS called for strict enforcement of a strike for being out of the box except when allowed. I had a number of occasions when, with and 3-1 count, a batter would, or take a called second strike and leave the box for whatever reason. Strike 3.

Things were different and things evolve. Hey, wasn't that long ago that there were no appeals for runners missing a bag. Instead umpires simply called the runners at the end of action.

A good time for my frequent reminder. All the voting members on the FED rules committee are either current or past coaches and ADs...no umpires.

I had a batter during that first year of strike stupidity that had one strike, kid throws a good curve. The batter ducks out of the box and I called the strike on the pitch and the strike out of the box. The manager said he was pushed out of the box by the pitch, which was an exception. I told him no, he couldn't be pushed out of the box by a strike.
Fortunately they relaxed it quickly. It is a good rule to stop the five minute in and outs some kids were doing. If he steps back, gets his sign and gets back in then I'm good.