Do I recall watching a Yankees game, years ago, and seeing Goose Gossage hit 103mph.
How about pitchers who don't rack-up the K's, but because of movement, ground outs & pop ups.
Moc,
Then maybe the scout should draft the catcher LOL
By the way Moc, Congrats on your former team winning the DII series. My sons team went down there for the 1st time and I think they were a little intimidated by the teams there. Oh well maybe this year.....
Then maybe the scout should draft the catcher LOL
By the way Moc, Congrats on your former team winning the DII series. My sons team went down there for the 1st time and I think they were a little intimidated by the teams there. Oh well maybe this year.....
PG, that list goes back a little I guess. Hey there were guys who were never gunned, like Feller. Good look at who has gone over 100. Wohlers, Clemens and Johnson and some others are past cases, amd thats fine. I was speakng more of now, but who cares. Lets never forget those nasty knucklers, Timmy Wakefield tops out at 76 Fb. Sometimes we use expressions that aren't qute acurate, I am very sure that not too many big leaguers throw under 85. I was commenting on the fact that we always look at the starts or high draft picks, when in reality there will always be lesser talented guys that float around the minors and get big league opportunities eventually because they can get people out. I was wondering who did hit 100 mph the most often? I am guessing Wagner as he has reportedly done it a couple hundred times in just the last 3 years, according to old mlb.com story.
I agree with the general idea; scouts look for everything that is natural. Although I believe that they pay much more attention to the intangebles than you gies have been saying. Even velocity can be improved with hard work, not much, but maybe that extra couple MPH is enough to make a huge difference. Think about what you gies have been say about guys throwing only 85, if they add 2-3MPH, they are in the average for the pros.
The one thing i forgot to mention that i realize a lot of scouts look at, but moreso college than pro, is leadership.
coachric,
To be honest I've only seen 100 once in my life (in person) I was in Miller Park when Ben Sheets did it (2004).
98-100 is far from the norm, as we all know, my point is that it is far more common than 85 or below fastballs at that level.
80-85 can be very good, just won't create any draft interest. There are college pitchers who are successful at that speed.
Andrew,
Leadership is very important, but without the other stuff it is likely to be completely over looked. With the other stuff it becomes a big plus! It's always a big plus outside of baseball.
To be honest I've only seen 100 once in my life (in person) I was in Miller Park when Ben Sheets did it (2004).
98-100 is far from the norm, as we all know, my point is that it is far more common than 85 or below fastballs at that level.
80-85 can be very good, just won't create any draft interest. There are college pitchers who are successful at that speed.
Andrew,
Leadership is very important, but without the other stuff it is likely to be completely over looked. With the other stuff it becomes a big plus! It's always a big plus outside of baseball.
I remember some scout told me that alote of people can hit 90 mph.. but throwing 95+ is something only a few can do.
Do college coaches look for the kid who throws hard or the kid who gets people out ?
Both> College coaches look for good velocity and ability to get batters out. This is not the "end all" though, there are exceptions.
Great Example of one I can recall who played on my Valley League team, Harrisonburgh Turks, a few years back who only threw FB in mid-80s but had the tightest, most wicked curveball I have ever seen and even got him drafted. No joke...his name was Mike Emmons from south FLA in late 80s. Drafted by LA.
Keep gettimg em out, somebody will notice something special.
Shep Cares
Great Example of one I can recall who played on my Valley League team, Harrisonburgh Turks, a few years back who only threw FB in mid-80s but had the tightest, most wicked curveball I have ever seen and even got him drafted. No joke...his name was Mike Emmons from south FLA in late 80s. Drafted by LA.
Keep gettimg em out, somebody will notice something special.
Shep Cares
Quote: originally posted by Shepster.
Keep getting them out, somebody will notice something special.
Shep , I hope so! Son pitched 3 in. at PG World Showcase . 6k'S,and 0 hits and 1 .p.o. and only topping out 83. he is uasually mid 80s. Do you think someone noticed?
Keep getting them out, somebody will notice something special.
Shep , I hope so! Son pitched 3 in. at PG World Showcase . 6k'S,and 0 hits and 1 .p.o. and only topping out 83. he is uasually mid 80s. Do you think someone noticed?
Does he have a good hammer like my friend Mike E. did?
Shep
Shep
Just to support the fact that every once in awhile low 80s has reached the Big Leagues. My son had a team mate RHP (Yankees) in AA and AAA who actually was used as a closer. In fact, he set records for saves in AA and high A. His fastball was mostly 80-82. He was called up to the Big League club for brief stints in 4 different years. Ended up pitching in 22 Big League games. Before being drafted in the 19th round he pitched college ball at Miami. His name is Jay Tesser.
Tessmer was a sidearmer, almost submarine, who was pretty much a one pitch pitcher. That one pitch was a Frisbee slider that looked much different than most every pitch a professional hitter might see. It would just keep gaining distance away from the bat and because of his release point the angle appeared to actually go up! Biggest problem was Big League hitters would stay off this pitch and tee off on the fastball. So, yes. It can and does happen once in awhile.
downNhard,
PM or email me and I will give you all our notes on your son.
Tessmer was a sidearmer, almost submarine, who was pretty much a one pitch pitcher. That one pitch was a Frisbee slider that looked much different than most every pitch a professional hitter might see. It would just keep gaining distance away from the bat and because of his release point the angle appeared to actually go up! Biggest problem was Big League hitters would stay off this pitch and tee off on the fastball. So, yes. It can and does happen once in awhile.
downNhard,
PM or email me and I will give you all our notes on your son.
PG Staff , you have a pm. Good example . My son was used as closer for his summer team. .
Shep, son has good curve and better change-up .
downnhard
Would like to view skills show.
Going there now.
Shep
Would like to view skills show.
Going there now.
Shep
downNhard
Pm me, please sir. Will give #3 on red team of past a look.
When to the site w/o necessary info. Got ahead of myself.
Shep
Pm me, please sir. Will give #3 on red team of past a look.
When to the site w/o necessary info. Got ahead of myself.
Shep
Shep, You have a PM.