What does this mean when a well known baseball establishment (tournament/showcase/etc) does this?

They changed it because they were wrong in the way they projected him and are covering their tracks

I know there are at least 2 players currently playing in MLB that PG graded as either 7.5 or 8 when they were in high school... it happens.  They get more right than they get wrong.  Also if a player’s main tool is hitting, and their measureables don’t jump off the charts, it is difficult to project whether a kid will be able to handle D1 pitching let alone pros let alone MLB

@3and2Fastball posted:

They changed it because they were wrong in the way they projected him and are covering their tracks

I know there are at least 2 players currently playing in MLB that PG graded as either 7.5 or 8 when they were in high school... it happens.  They get more right than they get wrong.  Also if a player’s main tool is hitting, and their measureables don’t jump off the charts, it is difficult to project whether a kid will be able to handle D1 pitching let alone pros let alone MLB

Keston Hiura is an example of this.  Pure hitter, and most colleges and scouts missed him.  He was graded an 8 as a rising senior, went to UCI and led the nation in hitting, got drafted in 2017 and is now in his 2nd year in the bigs with the Brewers.

What does it mean?  Flat out truth?  It is completely ridiculously dishonest of them.  Scummy. 

It is certainly $cummy and I imagine they will continue to do it until someone posts a screenshot of their original evaluation to prove they switched it. I don’t think it’s fair to only call out PG though. I would say most of them do this. Heck, some of them you can pay to have your player scouted at their event and get a nice little write up. 

Now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a negative write up on PG or anywhere else. Kid runs a 9+, “capable speed”. I think they have a minimum grade they hand out, the middle grade for kids who can do one thing really well, then the 9.5/10’s are saved for the kids that truly stand out with multiple tools. 

Might be obvious - but I think that there is a tendency to be conservative with the younger player's grades to incent them to go back to improve it.

Did you reach out to the org for an explanation? 

I wish they would just leave it. It goes to show you that numbers and one scout's opinion don't mean everything and that players continue to develop and grow even from one season to the next...forget about from HS to their twenties...

As we all know, youth baseball and scouting events have become a money grab. I guess they think the more players they projected correctly proves their events are worth the money. If it were my son, I would contact this organization and call them out directly on their unethical practice. I'm sure they will claim it was just some sort of mistake, but at least you can let them know you are aware of their dishonest practice and watching them. 

When I organized the Area Code games, a few parents suggested that I provide scouting "reports" for each player.

Since the player paid "$0" for play and we drew 300 pro pro scouts, I refused to "rank" or provide a scouting report."Who would benefit"?

Pro scouts and College coaches trust their own judgement and make detailed evaluations. It is often by committee. Watch the movie with Clint "Trouble with the Curve"!

Bob

I heard that Havard recently went back and changed some of Bill Gates grades...just kidding.

Somewhat related, I often wondered what schools and scouts think when they see metrics online...especially when the kid was young.  If little Johnny ran an 8 second 60 when he was 13, are you going to factor that in or just realized that players sometimes get better?

@Consultant posted:

When I organized the Area Code games, a few parents suggested that I provide scouting "reports" for each player.

Since the player paid "$0" for play and we drew 300 pro pro scouts, I refused to "rank" or provide a scouting report."Who would benefit"?

Pro scouts and College coaches trust their own judgement and make detailed evaluations. It is often by committee. Watch the movie with Clint "Trouble with the Curve"!

I enjoyed the movie but I could not believe Justin Timberlake was pitcher or a scout...also my wife was way too interested in Justin' performance