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I do agree with you totally. I think it's more of the fact that I don't wanna hear about it anymore because it's making our school and program seem not as honorable as we really are. Definitely true that it should teach other high school athletes or even just students not to get involved with this kind of stuff. I also agree with those of you who say it's unacceptable, but being in high school myself I know this kind of stuff happens a lot. Hopefully our team and whole school learns from what happened and hopefully it won't ever happen again.
TPBulldogs35:
Again, I respectfully disagree with you. I think that it is making your school seem VERY HONORABLE. Many schools would just ignore it, and play as usual, teaching only that if you are an athlete, you can do whatever you want. The rules don't apply to them.
I am very respectful of your coach and the AD...
I wish more schools would take this stance when faced with this issue...and I know there are many which are...
Good luck to the Sandburg team (until they play my son's team
). I'm sure they will come back with a renewed sense of commitment and pride.
Again, I respectfully disagree with you. I think that it is making your school seem VERY HONORABLE. Many schools would just ignore it, and play as usual, teaching only that if you are an athlete, you can do whatever you want. The rules don't apply to them.
I am very respectful of your coach and the AD...
I wish more schools would take this stance when faced with this issue...and I know there are many which are...
Good luck to the Sandburg team (until they play my son's team
). I'm sure they will come back with a renewed sense of commitment and pride.
Once again play baseball you make a good point.
What team is your son on and how are they doing? What level too.
What team is your son on and how are they doing? What level too.
TPBulldogs35:
THANKS!!!
I'll send you a PM...
THANKS!!!
I'll send you a PM...
It is unfortunate that these players didn't read the thread that was going around about the schools cracking down on their athletes.
I truly beleive that alcohol is a big problem in HS and it usually takes something like this or worse before someone takes action. Like I said in the previous thread, something far worse could have come of this party. To simply say it was a mistake would be unfair to anyone would has been involved in an alcohol related accident.
As for the coach resigning, the coach coaches baseball and the parents raise their children. This problem should have been recognized at home long before a coach has to deal with it.
JMO
I truly beleive that alcohol is a big problem in HS and it usually takes something like this or worse before someone takes action. Like I said in the previous thread, something far worse could have come of this party. To simply say it was a mistake would be unfair to anyone would has been involved in an alcohol related accident.
As for the coach resigning, the coach coaches baseball and the parents raise their children. This problem should have been recognized at home long before a coach has to deal with it.
JMO
playbaseball, I would love for you to give one factual instance where a school has swept something like this under the rug. Sorry, don't buy what your saying. The code of conduct at most schools would require a longer suspension than 4 games.
TPBulldogs35:
You are fast becoming one of my favorite players and I've never even seen you play. For a young man, you are very thoughtful and you handle yourself very well in this forum.
I wish you the best of luck during your high school years and beyond. Much success in your baseball career. I'm certain you will be successful in life.
Mike F
You are fast becoming one of my favorite players and I've never even seen you play. For a young man, you are very thoughtful and you handle yourself very well in this forum.
I wish you the best of luck during your high school years and beyond. Much success in your baseball career. I'm certain you will be successful in life.
Mike F
Thanks Mike..it means a lot to me. I try to respect everyones opinion and not single anyone out.
quote:Originally posted by ballfan:
playbaseball, I would love for you to give one factual instance where a school has swept something like this under the rug. Sorry, don't buy what your saying. The code of conduct at most schools would require a longer suspension than 4 games.
I don't know about Illinois, but here in Texas, I see HS Kids with dips in their mouths in nearly every dugout. In this state, it is illegal to even posses tobacco on the school grounds, let alone use it.
I also know of kids that got caught drinking, only to be slapped on the wrist. It happens a lot more than you think
It (what Play Baseball refers to) happens - at all levels, for many reasons.
Nice start to the Sandburg varsity season with a 10-0 romp at Reavis.
According to the sun times some players received longer suspensions than others and wont return to the diamond until next weekend .
No doubt repeat offenders.
That 10-0 romp could've been A LOT worse. Baserunning "rust" and the monsoon hampered Sandburg.
I coach at a program that is lucky enough to have Sandburg on its schedule yearly. I have nothing but the highest regard for the school, the baseball program, its players, and the parents involved. Our yearly tilts are usually extremely well played, and we have never been treated with anything but the highest level of respect from the program as a whole--coaches, players, and parents. I am always impressed with the support the Sandburg parents give and the sportsmanship displayed by the Sandurg players and coaches.
What I have learned about the breadth of the program response to the code infractions of the varsity players again leaves me impressed with the Sandburg program. If the players on the varsity team (ALL the players) and those on the lower levels learn nothing else this year but the message sent that:
"YES, I AM MY BROTHERS' KEEPER"
than they will have learned a lesson that no amount of games could have ever accomplished.
Young men in ANY program--no matter how good--are capable of making stupid, selfish decisions. How a program goes about holding them, and their teammates, accountable is the ultimate mark of the character of the program and those running it.
If I were involved in the Sandburg program, I would definitely be disappointed in the actions of those involved in the infractions (and those that did nothing to stop them), but I would also be EXTREMELY proud of the response of the those running the program to the situation.
If high school athletics are truly a teaching ground for life lessons, the Sandburg staff sent a brilliant message LOUD AND CLEAR.
What I have learned about the breadth of the program response to the code infractions of the varsity players again leaves me impressed with the Sandburg program. If the players on the varsity team (ALL the players) and those on the lower levels learn nothing else this year but the message sent that:
"YES, I AM MY BROTHERS' KEEPER"
than they will have learned a lesson that no amount of games could have ever accomplished.
Young men in ANY program--no matter how good--are capable of making stupid, selfish decisions. How a program goes about holding them, and their teammates, accountable is the ultimate mark of the character of the program and those running it.
If I were involved in the Sandburg program, I would definitely be disappointed in the actions of those involved in the infractions (and those that did nothing to stop them), but I would also be EXTREMELY proud of the response of the those running the program to the situation.
If high school athletics are truly a teaching ground for life lessons, the Sandburg staff sent a brilliant message LOUD AND CLEAR.
Coach...Nice post.
Please give us your opinion, as a coach, as to how you would feel if 18 of 21 of your varsity players were involved in this type of activity, likely soon after they signed their Code of Conduct?
Please give us your opinion, as a coach, as to how you would feel if 18 of 21 of your varsity players were involved in this type of activity, likely soon after they signed their Code of Conduct?
K13 - coach - nice post
sandburgs whole team got caught at a kegger, and they deserved those forfeits, cuz if it was any other team who did that, then it would be a big deal, but noo its sandburg its okay they did this..BS...they are normal kids and they deserved what they got..they arnt even good anyways
yah im not sure but i think we stopped talking about this like 3-4 months ago..sure...underage drinking is never a dead subject but no need to bash the kids at sandburg especially AFTER the season, and AFTER they served their suspensions and stuff.....
JMO
JMO
Agreed LP.