Chicks, the original post comes down to one thing. You have an agenda against the moderators and you find them to be the problem.
I found it interesting that you blame the moderators and then ask them not to respond. To me that is an interesting attempt for you to garner support for your agenda by making the members feel free to respond without fear of retribution. I thought that was a good idea. I also think that the members have responded and overwhelmingly do not agree with you. jmo
Big,
Hey, how are you, hope all is well.
Good point in your post. Actually I was wondering what the point of the whole post was. Poster comes on after not posting in months, states a problem, wants some feedback and then goes away.
Hey, how are you, hope all is well.
Good point in your post. Actually I was wondering what the point of the whole post was. Poster comes on after not posting in months, states a problem, wants some feedback and then goes away.
hey, big,
wasteing your words -
ya see, chicks stoppped by to stir things up & he'll be back in a yr or so
wasteing your words -
ya see, chicks stoppped by to stir things up & he'll be back in a yr or so
quote:Originally posted by Bighit15:
Chicks, the original post comes down to one thing. You have an agenda against the moderators and you find them to be the problem.
I found it interesting that you blame the moderators and then ask them not to respond. To me that is an interesting attempt for you to garner support for your agenda by making the members feel free to respond without fear of retribution. I thought that was a good idea. I also think that the members have responded and overwhelmingly do not agree with you. jmo
Yada, yada, yada. You know what they say about opinions...
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
quote:Yada, yada, yada. You know what they say about opinions...
Frankly, that is one of the reasons that you have had problems here. You want your opinion heard, but you get offended when others disagree and then you respond childishly. You have shown your true colors. That also is my opinion.
This site does have a tremendous amount of "Lurkers". I have people come up to me all the time at games and say "Aren't you Kellerdad"?, and when I ask them thier screen name, they say "Oh, I don't post, I just read"
This website is about information. There is a huge audiance that will lurk and read others opinions without spouting off their own. They come to this site to learn.
There is also the aspect of "getting your son in trouble" by posting here. I've witnessed it. A parent makes a remark about a HS Team/Coach or a summer program and then the kid takes the heat. Can be detrimental to the reason why you come to this site.
And yes, I'm opinionated, and I state my opinions.
I have been posting on Internet Forums since before there was an internet. Ran a BBS back in the day of the 1200 baud modem.
There will always be problems with moderators and posters....it's the nature of the beast. That is why the forum that I run has NO moderators, but it isn't really a "family affair" like this site is. People read connotations that aren't there in posts. People also see bickering going on when they come, and they get scared. TR's little jabs at Dibble are a prime example. If you haven't been around for a couple of years, you might not know where that comes from
This is a great site. One of the best on the web, as far as I'm concerned. I think the static pages need to be updated, and hope that MN Mom is working on that, and I feel the "old timers" should offer some help.
I also think that we should all thank our lucky stars that this is a FREE site, because it could easily become a PAY site, one that I would gladly pay the fee.
This website is about information. There is a huge audiance that will lurk and read others opinions without spouting off their own. They come to this site to learn.
There is also the aspect of "getting your son in trouble" by posting here. I've witnessed it. A parent makes a remark about a HS Team/Coach or a summer program and then the kid takes the heat. Can be detrimental to the reason why you come to this site.
And yes, I'm opinionated, and I state my opinions.
I have been posting on Internet Forums since before there was an internet. Ran a BBS back in the day of the 1200 baud modem.
There will always be problems with moderators and posters....it's the nature of the beast. That is why the forum that I run has NO moderators, but it isn't really a "family affair" like this site is. People read connotations that aren't there in posts. People also see bickering going on when they come, and they get scared. TR's little jabs at Dibble are a prime example. If you haven't been around for a couple of years, you might not know where that comes from
This is a great site. One of the best on the web, as far as I'm concerned. I think the static pages need to be updated, and hope that MN Mom is working on that, and I feel the "old timers" should offer some help.
I also think that we should all thank our lucky stars that this is a FREE site, because it could easily become a PAY site, one that I would gladly pay the fee.
quote:Originally posted by KellerDad:
I also think that we should all thank our lucky stars that this is a FREE site, because it could easily become a PAY site, one that I would gladly pay the fee.
Very true and a great point IMO.
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
Thank you for proving my whole point that this site is not for the whole community but just the cyber buddies that exist here. True, the outsiders can get valuable information left in many articles by Bob and through many valid responses from all. However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list. Granted, Mn-mom has communicated with me through pm's and has explained that several of the problem moderator problems had been corrected after much effort. She was not specific with names but wanted to be private on this which I understand. I can see that these changes have been for the better and I apoligize for not knowing this so I could have worded my post differently.
Thanks to all that honored my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
Thank you for proving my whole point that this site is not for the whole community but just the cyber buddies that exist here. True, the outsiders can get valuable information left in many articles by Bob and through many valid responses from all. However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list. Granted, Mn-mom has communicated with me through pm's and has explained that several of the problem moderator problems had been corrected after much effort. She was not specific with names but wanted to be private on this which I understand. I can see that these changes have been for the better and I apoligize for not knowing this so I could have worded my post differently.
Thanks to all that honored my opinion.
Chicks,
I support your right to express yourself 100%.
As long as it doesnt insult or slander anyone.
I also dont agree with about 95% of what you just posted.
Two things come to mind:
1) Who cares?
2) It is a strange world isnt it?
And on we go.
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
Thank you for proving my whole point that this site is not for the whole community but just the cyber buddies that exist here. True, the outsiders can get valuable information left in many articles by Bob and through many valid responses from all. However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list. Granted, Mn-mom has communicated with me through pm's and has explained that several of the problem moderator problems had been corrected after much effort. She was not specific with names but wanted to be private on this which I understand. I can see that these changes have been for the better and I apoligize for not knowing this so I could have worded my post differently.
Thanks to all that honored my opinion.
Chicks,
I support your right to express yourself 100%.
As long as it doesnt insult or slander anyone.
I also dont agree with about 95% of what you just posted.
Two things come to mind:
1) Who cares?
2) It is a strange world isnt it?
And on we go.
Please remember your own advice. If you don't care then click somewhere else.
quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
Thank you for proving my whole point that this site is not for the whole community but just the cyber buddies that exist here. True, the outsiders can get valuable information left in many articles by Bob and through many valid responses from all. However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list. Granted, Mn-mom has communicated with me through pm's and has explained that several of the problem moderator problems had been corrected after much effort. She was not specific with names but wanted to be private on this which I understand. I can see that these changes have been for the better and I apoligize for not knowing this so I could have worded my post differently.
Thanks to all that honored my opinion.
Chicks,
I support your right to express yourself 100%.
As long as it doesnt insult or slander anyone.
I also dont agree with about 95% of what you just posted.
Two things come to mind:
1) Who cares?
2) It is a strange world isnt it?
And on we go.
Please remember your own advice. If you don't care then click somewhere else.
I will pass on your invitation.
I care.
That is why I responded LOL.
Read carefully Chicks.
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Yes Chicks - I think we do.
You threw your opinion out there - which you have every right to do IMO - and it appears as if it was thrown right back into the "Yada yada yada" garbage can.
Thank you for proving my whole point that this site is not for the whole community but just the cyber buddies that exist here. True, the outsiders can get valuable information left in many articles by Bob and through many valid responses from all. However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list. Granted, Mn-mom has communicated with me through pm's and has explained that several of the problem moderator problems had been corrected after much effort. She was not specific with names but wanted to be private on this which I understand. I can see that these changes have been for the better and I apoligize for not knowing this so I could have worded my post differently.
Thanks to all that honored my opinion.
Chicks,
I support your right to express yourself 100%.
As long as it doesnt insult or slander anyone.
I also dont agree with about 95% of what you just posted.
Two things come to mind:
1) Who cares?
2) It is a strange world isnt it?
And on we go.
Please remember your own advice. If you don't care then click somewhere else.
I will pass on your invitation.
I care.
That is why I responded LOL.
Read carefully Chicks.
Talking about someone twisting their own words. You are a professional cyber squatter. No need to even try to communicate with a cybersquatter that is bent on winning an agument. Just a lost cause so don't try to flame me. It won't work. I'll eat you for breakfast.
"Cyber squatter"
That is a new one.
Mangia!!! (I hope you like garlic)
P.S. You sound frustrated. IMO.
That is a new one.
Mangia!!! (I hope you like garlic)
P.S. You sound frustrated. IMO.
I've got to leave for a little bit so please don't think I just up and left. Some of us do have other things to do.
quote:Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:
I've got to leave for a little bit so please don't think I just up and left. Some of us do have other things to do.
You organizing a "Ban the moderators protest"?
LOL
Why is it that the same posters cause the same problems all the time? They can come back after long absences...sometimes with new ID names, but they return with the same attitudes, problems, chips on their shoulders, points to prove (and insist they are always right...).....and then it does get down to yada, yada, and after a while....the thread(s) just go amuck.
We all have the right to post, and express opionions....it shouldn't be a contest.....
Yesterday I spent a great deal of time trying to find a volleyball site with a format similar to this one. We have a friend whose son, a HS sophomore, is being heavily recruited already....at 6'8"..he is a very good player. These friends have heard us comment, repeatedly, how this site helped us with the recruitment process...and many other benefits. They are feeling the pressure, some stress, and wanted to find a like community to discuss what they were going through....Well I searched a long time....but there is nothing out there like what we have here...
We all need to think about that.....
We all have the right to post, and express opionions....it shouldn't be a contest.....
Yesterday I spent a great deal of time trying to find a volleyball site with a format similar to this one. We have a friend whose son, a HS sophomore, is being heavily recruited already....at 6'8"..he is a very good player. These friends have heard us comment, repeatedly, how this site helped us with the recruitment process...and many other benefits. They are feeling the pressure, some stress, and wanted to find a like community to discuss what they were going through....Well I searched a long time....but there is nothing out there like what we have here...
We all need to think about that.....
arizona,
It really isnt much a problem here IMO - because the vast majority of posters understand there will always be folks that want to insult - and stir things up. It is just the nature of the internet.
This site is unique IMO - probably because of the quality of the members and the Bob Howdeshell's and MN-Moms of the world. The troublemakers come - they get hammered back into their holes - they leave - and then they come back again. But they have very little effect on the site in the long run - and the valuable information it dispenses just keeps on coming on.
Some people just dont respond to these folks - and others -like myself - do. Hopefully in a diplomatic (and sometimes a sarcastic way - LOL).
But as long as we have the vast majority of posters trying to help each other - and not trying to "eat each other" - I think we will be OK. IMO.
It really isnt much a problem here IMO - because the vast majority of posters understand there will always be folks that want to insult - and stir things up. It is just the nature of the internet.
This site is unique IMO - probably because of the quality of the members and the Bob Howdeshell's and MN-Moms of the world. The troublemakers come - they get hammered back into their holes - they leave - and then they come back again. But they have very little effect on the site in the long run - and the valuable information it dispenses just keeps on coming on.
Some people just dont respond to these folks - and others -like myself - do. Hopefully in a diplomatic (and sometimes a sarcastic way - LOL).
But as long as we have the vast majority of posters trying to help each other - and not trying to "eat each other" - I think we will be OK. IMO.
Chicks,
Enough is enough. Well, personally I think your last few comments on this subject are too much.
KellerDad,
Yes, thanks for bringing up the topic. Some of the static pages of the site need updating, and I am hoping to get caught up on those between now and the end of December.
I apologize to those who have sent in photos of their players to be posted, or team website links, and have not seen them posted yet. The first 5 months of running the site, I have spent more time than I expected on "behavioral modification" issues and just the basic admininistrative tasks of answering questions, helping members with technical questions, etc. But those aspects are getting a bit easier now that I am getting more experienced. I'll be playing "catch up" on updates, plus I'm hoping to do a bit of a visual/style update to the site pages. Stay tuned!
Julie
Enough is enough. Well, personally I think your last few comments on this subject are too much.
KellerDad,
Yes, thanks for bringing up the topic. Some of the static pages of the site need updating, and I am hoping to get caught up on those between now and the end of December.
I apologize to those who have sent in photos of their players to be posted, or team website links, and have not seen them posted yet. The first 5 months of running the site, I have spent more time than I expected on "behavioral modification" issues and just the basic admininistrative tasks of answering questions, helping members with technical questions, etc. But those aspects are getting a bit easier now that I am getting more experienced. I'll be playing "catch up" on updates, plus I'm hoping to do a bit of a visual/style update to the site pages. Stay tuned!
Julie
quote:by chicks: However, there exists a small collective group that control threads as they see fit through there moderator powers and cyber buddy list
can someone PLEASE get me on the CYBER BUDDY list? (whatever it is)
(only if it's free, of course).
Bee,
You are on my list - even though I hardly ever agree with you. Welcome to nowhere. LOL
Your signature line says it all. IMO.
BTW - Inclusion on the "Holy Grail List" costs $1.50 per month. Its a steal IMO.
You are on my list - even though I hardly ever agree with you. Welcome to nowhere. LOL
Your signature line says it all. IMO.
BTW - Inclusion on the "Holy Grail List" costs $1.50 per month. Its a steal IMO.
gee, sounds great, can you put it on my TAB??
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I dont want to shock you - But - Your tab has been running for the last 3 years. You are in the hole for about 5 large.
There goes the vacation. LOL
There goes the vacation. LOL
Is it "CYBER BUDDY" or "CYBER BODY?!" Either way, Bee>, you and I may not qualify...
MN-Mom: You're doing a terrific job. Thank you!!
MN-Mom: You're doing a terrific job. Thank you!!
lol,
please split the "5 large" 'tween fungo & prepster's tab
actually add a wee bit and I'll split the over with ya
we cool?
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please split the "5 large" 'tween fungo & prepster's tab
actually add a wee bit and I'll split the over with ya
we cool?
.
Bee - LOL
I say put the whole $5K on Bullwinkles tab.
P.S. Glad I could bring a smile to you in what seems like a bad day. Hope all is OK for you.
I say put the whole $5K on Bullwinkles tab.
P.S. Glad I could bring a smile to you in what seems like a bad day. Hope all is OK for you.
One thing I have learned in the many years I have been on this web site.
When 40 people respond, in agreement with a particular post - someone will claim they are "jumping on the band wagon". When 40 people respond, and they don't agree, someone will claim they are "jumping on the poster".
When in fact, all the posters are doing is giving their own personal opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
If 40 single voices play the same tune it is not a conspiracy - it is simply that 40 folks all share the same view.
Folks with their own unique voice are welcome here, they always have been. From what I have seen over the years folks actually enjoy those who come on with a new perspective.
So without a doubt, come, share your ideas, voice your opinion. Some days you will get folks who "jump on the band wagon" with you. Some days folks will "jump on the poster" (you).
But either way, and every time, it is really just 40 folks with their own single voice, not an attempt to gang up on you.
When 40 people respond, in agreement with a particular post - someone will claim they are "jumping on the band wagon". When 40 people respond, and they don't agree, someone will claim they are "jumping on the poster".
When in fact, all the posters are doing is giving their own personal opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
If 40 single voices play the same tune it is not a conspiracy - it is simply that 40 folks all share the same view.
Folks with their own unique voice are welcome here, they always have been. From what I have seen over the years folks actually enjoy those who come on with a new perspective.
So without a doubt, come, share your ideas, voice your opinion. Some days you will get folks who "jump on the band wagon" with you. Some days folks will "jump on the poster" (you).
But either way, and every time, it is really just 40 folks with their own single voice, not an attempt to gang up on you.
...a new perspective, AParent.
AParent
Amen to that !
Amen to that !
no problem Mn-Mom. We can all agree to disagree and move on.