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OK, It’s a deal. My wife and I have always wanted to try one of them Kobe Steaks (Saki Fed and hand massaged) straight from Japan.

Never could afford to order one of them. They’re about a $100 for an 8 ounce portion. We’re big eaters, so I’ll need two or three.

We also like those Vietnamese Colossal shrimp for appetizers. Compared to those Japanese steaks they’re cheap. About $30 apiece.

Of course, with a meal like that, we need to have an excellent bottle of wine. Smile

Just kiddin, we eat light! Wink

Pizza and beer sounds good!
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Originally posted by crawdad:
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Originally posted by 06RHP86:
I do feel that high school baseball is a great thing for many people. However, if you're one of the lucky few that is going to play beyond high school, then school ball can be a hindrance. I know that in my case, the fact that I'm going to play beyond high school alientates me from some of my teammates, and there is the all to common abuse of my arm that can take place. So for those highly touted players, high school ball can be a hindrance, but still, ball is ball, and you have to play hard.


In Texas your attitude would cause you a few problems. High School ball here is very competitive. In the past 4 years the top two pitchers taken in the MLB amateur draft have come from my son's 8 team high school district (NE Texas - Colt Griffin & Phillip Humber). We will have two pitchers drafted in this year's draft (we are in 17-4A - one of the pitchers is the #43 prospect in the USA).

I doubt you would be anything special down here. Move to Texas and see how you stack up down here playing that sorry ol high school baseball.


o6rhp86, High School ball and summer ball are both important and fun if you plan to play at the next level. Summer ball can be a more advanced level for the better players and it can also be a lower level for those that just want to play more baseball but did not make the elite summer team.

When this time of year comes around in California, all the scouts are watching the young prospects on their High School teams and they will be drafted according to how they perform and showcase their tools while playing on their High School team.

If you hope to be drafted this June and are in High School, you better be on the team, or you won't be seen.

As far as which teams are better, in my neck of the woods, there are only a few summer teams that are full of top players. Most of the summer teams are very comparable to the High School teams.

My son has great memories from his High School team and from his summer team. The summer team was much better, but his best pals were on his High School team, and they are the memories that he will always have and the friendships that will last a lifetime.
crawdad:

Quite a few very good players have come out of Washington, players who can play anywhere against anyone, so I would not be so quick to judge. Texas has good players, too, but no more so than a lot of other places. If you want some top-level pitching, for instance, the Mid-Atlantic area the past few years would be very, very tough to beat.
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Originally posted by 06RHP86:
Crawdad, I'm not going to try to defend myself and list my accomplishments. However, I will simply state that I am as committed to winning the I.A.C (our conference) title as anyone in our program, and I work harder than anyone else to improve and make the team better. Yet when I try to go outside of school to find a professional trainer and get a better lifting program, my coach belittles me and says that I am not setting a good example for the underclassmen (I'm a junior) by trying to go outside the team. I believe in high school baseball, and I love it unequivocally, but for me, winning the I.A.C title is not worth risking my future in baseball by throwing 150 pitches against Prep, or throwing 4 times in a week in League play. That's what I'm saying.


If you HS coach wants you to do all that then you have an idiot for a high school coach - but don't paint ALL high school coaches and high school baseball as a "negative" just because you happen to live in the wrong school district. My son's high school coaches are VERY protective of my son's arm. HS baseball is alot of fun for him and it certainly does not pose any "danger" for him in regard to his future.
HS baseball is often played in anonymity. There's no cheerleaders, no "Friday nite lites" etc. and for that much is lost on alot of kids. Baseball also is tremendously hard work and the repetion of so many and varying skills. It is a game of constant failure where 3 for 10 makes you a hero. It is a game that is often unforgiving and requires enormous courage. With the instant gratification fast pace society, the art of baseball, especially for teen agers may well be lost to most, But....

It creates memories and friendships for a lifetime. It is the last step of organized ball for many, if not most. For those that move on it is an integral stepping stone to the next level and for all that participate it teaches concepts of teamwork, of dealing with disappointment and success. It gives you an opportunity to represent your school and community, even if the throngs that football and basketball attract are not there.

It is the chance to test yourself, to see where you belong in the baseball world and the world in general. How to deal with coaches (bosses) teammates etc. etc.

Probably my greatest regret is that I quit back in my HS days. Probably my biggest thrills have come in seeing my son's success through HS ball and now into College.

Travel/Club etc. certainly has it's place, along with showcases etc. etc. but that is a very personal about "me" experience. Being a part of your school's team is a marvelous and irreplaceable experience regardless of whether you ever play again or go on to greater baseball glory.
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I believe high school baseball, as any high school sport serves as an avenue for young boys/girls to mature to successful young men/women. Many of life's lessons are learned during these teenage years in a selected sport. The choices made in high school can directly affect the future of adulthood. To name a few:
Response/Reaction to those in Authority,
Acceptance of requirements, No Pass-No Play,
Personal Work ethic,
Teamwork,
Attitude to losing,
Attitude to winning,
Acknowledgement to those that help you succeed.
#1, What role did God play in players life during this time.
Both my daughter on the tennis courts and my son on the diamond learned huge lessons which they have taken with them to young adulthood. Too many to mention here.

Too, too many kids do not reach their true potential in life because they overlook these few basic guidelines and the #1 priority to success while in their high school years.
High School baseball is not about getting drafted though some will. It is not about getting noticed though some will. It is not about showcaseing oneself though some will. High School baseball is about the name on the front of the jersey not the back. Its about kids that have grown up together getting a chance to play a wonderfull game together. Its about young boys growing into young men together. Its about representing your hometown your community and being part of what your brothers uncles cousins fathers and friends were a part of. Its about learning that what you do as a team will last a life time and what you do as an individual will fade over time. Its about being a part of something that is bigger than you. Its about coming back 20 years later and telling your son that this is where you played. Its about telling him that in 1977 you won the conference title and see there son thats the banner on the gym wall that (we won). Its about a bond that last a lifetime with everyone you played with. Its about seeing a former teamate 20 years later and no one remembers who was the best or who cares who was the best and giving each other a hug. Its about learning what it means to sacrifice and sweat together for a common goal. Players that have the ability and desire to play at a higher level that use the HS experience as a stepping stone and as a way to showcase themselves are missing out on a very special time. If you play the game for the love of the game play the game to win the game everything else will take care of itself. The cream will rise to the top. The last thing I want to see is a kid that is only concerned with his baseball career and as long as he is getting noticed he is happy. He will not have the intangibles of a winner. We had a HS team in our area a couple of years ago that had 5 players sign D-1 after their JR year. Three signed D-3. All in the same class. Their sr season they failed to make the state playoffs in a weak conference. Many people could not understand why. After talking to coaches and some players I found out why. They were satisfied that they had reached their goal. They were so determined to shine above one another that they completely fell apart as a team. Im rambling now so I will stop.
PG and HI must have gotten a room... dining room that is...
Many great points have been made in this thread about HS baseball.
For most, HS ball is the end of a journey, for a few, it is a waypoint to be passed through. For both groups, to get the most out of these few years in thier lives, they need to have fun! This is the last time they will play with others that are friends first, and competitors second.
Parents and Coaches need to remember that!
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Coach May, I think you've just described what I'm seeing - right down to the end result, so far. For what it's worth, it's not just baseball. I've seen it in other sports, too, where a couple of the players have plans for the future, and everything revolves around those "prospects", with the rest of the team an afterthought. It rarely results in team success. Not all "prospects" deal with it that way - I've known some terrific kids who were D-1 bound in their sports but were team players and team leaders - but it seems to be pretty common. Again, I think it's sad.

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