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I really am trying to get movement on my fastball so i tried different grips and pressure with different fingers and finnaly the ball did something.. it went strait two the left (im a rhp) and didnt drop or anything.. it appeared to of went to the left by like 2 feet.. i threw it like 6 times in a row but then i had to go inside. The next day when i tried to do exactly what i did the day before my pitch did nothing. The way i threw it was by taking the ball like a two seam and by Sliding my fingers up the ball until you get to the two horizontal seams. then i put my thumb on the left seam on the bottom of the ball and put pressure with my middle finger and threw it strait over the top.
Does anyone know the name of this pitch.. or what I can do To be able to throw it again
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Originally posted by baseballplaya92104:
I really am trying to get movement on my fastball so i tried different grips and pressure with different fingers and finnaly the ball did something.. it went strait two the left (im a rhp) and didnt drop or anything.. it appeared to of went to the left by like 2 feet.. i threw it like 6 times in a row but then i had to go inside. The next day when i tried to do exactly what i did the day before my pitch did nothing. The way i threw it was by taking the ball like a two seam and by Sliding my fingers up the ball until you get to the two horizontal seams. then i put my thumb on the left seam on the bottom of the ball and put pressure with my middle finger and threw it strait over the top.
Does anyone know the name of this pitch.. or what I can do To be able to throw it again


Sounds like a cut fastball (or a slider).

This kind of movement can lead to elbow problems, because you supinate when throwing it, so be careful.
Last edited by thepainguy
Do I understand properly that instead of having your fingers between the seams (e.g., fingers running parallel to the seams) at the point where they are closest together, you have them running across the two seams (e.g. fingers running perpendicular to the two seams) where they are closest together?

If so, some refer to this as the double cross grip. This is not a cut fastball, as the two fingers are still centered on the ball.

In reality, it doesn't matter what you call a grip. If it works for you, call it anything you like.
the same thing occured one day when I was just throwing a ball around.
I actually mentioned it a few months ago on these forums [around march]

Every once and a while, I'll get the ball to cut hard to the left, insanely far, like you described, almost two feet.

but my conclusion is that, I just ended up with a funky baseball, since it isn't something I can do with consistancy.

Hopefully your movement is true!
That is a "cutter" only if the extension is way out at max. Like Mariano Rivera. But on the flip side of that, a lot of kids think they are making a cutter happen because the ball moves to the left off of a RHP. A lot of times it is because the kid cuts of the extension and pulls the ball in. It is a big throwing flaw and can only be fixed by release and extension drills. A true cutter is a difficult and advanced pitch and can only be effective if a pitcher has trained and is strong with a consistant release point.

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