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What would you do if you were this player’s parent, coach or umpire.....

First let me say that this 2012 player I am talking about is a great talent and is going D1 (verbal commitment). His ability on the field is not in question. From everything I am told he is a hard worker and it shows. But I was told by several trusted observers of him this year that he is a classless jerk on the field. I always try to reserve final judgment until I could put eyes and in this case also ears on a player.

The teams play a 3 game set in conference. In the first game the player I am speaking of made some nice plays at SS had a one hit. On one of the outs he made he took his helmet and threw it on the ground as hard as he could which rolled about 20 feet away from him. I started to think maybe what I have heard about him is true.

Game 2… On a pickoff play to second he tags the opposing player at second to which the player is called safe. He holds the ball, approaches the umpire and begins to not only question the call but speaks to the umpire in a condescending tone which causes the umpire to say get the ball back to the pitcher, I will umpire and you worry about playing the game. The player not only doesn’t throw the ball back but continues to stand in front of the umpire questioning the call. A parent from the opposing team states “ Come on quit whining and lets go” The player looks into the crowd and states ”Why don’t you shut the F*** up, F***er” The runner on second tells the SS to have some class to which the SS starts to berate the runner who just shakes his head. The next pitch is hit for a 3 run home run. The next batter after the home run hits a ball up the middle, the SS dives makes a great stop and as he is getting up to throw yells “Showtime” as he throws out the runner. In the next half inning the player I am speaking of is running from first to third on a ball hit in the gap. The opposing second baseman is around the SS area as he is backing up the SS who is receiving the cut. The second baseman is also the player who told this kid to have some class. As he rounds second he goes way out of his way to run into the back side of the second baseman. The second baseman budges a bit but the runner bounces off and tumbles to the ground, he gets to third safely but looked foolish in doing so.

The rest of the game he continually chirped at SS. When there was a pitch he thought was a strike that was called a ball he would either let out this odd whewing yelp or he would yell out “That’s a great pitch, looks like a strike to me, I want to live in that spot.”

Not a person left that game without the same opinion of the player as what I was told prior, what a classless jerk. In all my years of playing, coaching or just watching a HS game as a fan, I don’t think I have ever seen or heard anything like this kid. A photographer from a paper was covering the game. As the aforementioned events took place he put down his camera and said, what a great player but what a jerk, what a shame.
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As his parent, it's too late, you screwed up.

As his coach, sit his butt until theres a real change in the way he acts on and off the field.

As the umpire, he should have been tossed when he threw his helmet. If he cussed the ump toss him for 6 weeks, fine the coach and school.

As an administrator at the school, suspend him indefinately from the team. When he proves to someone he can act as he should on and off the field reinstate him.

As the opposing pitcher/pitchers, head and kidney shots until he acts the way he should.
Pretty much agree with Holsombach

Parent - too late and probably the enabler of this attitude and behavior

Coach - close to being the same because he should have taken care of this early on as a freshman. If he transferred in then make him see the error of his ways as you talk to him on the bench beside you.

Ump - tossed at the helmet, tossed on the argument, tossed on running into the 2B, tossed on the continued criticism of the strike zone

School administrator - have a long talk with him in the office about how to represent the school. Make sure the parents are in the meeting and set down some rules, regulations and outcomes.

Opposing pitchers - get him out because that is the best way to shut him up. I don't advocate hitting him no matter how great it would feel to do so.
The game needs to be played with confidence, and yes arrogance, but there are obviously limits of classy play. That guy reached and breached the limits of playing with arrogance, though. He needs a shorter leash with a shock collar. However, there is plenty of chirping and gamesmenship going on the big fields. I'm surprised he or a teammate didn't get dotted.
Last edited by Dad04
As a mental health therapist professionally....I'd say the kid has some very difficult issues he is attempting to deal with. His antics are really his way of letting people know he needs help and no one seems to be listening..... Until something in his life generates sufficient need for change.....he will probably keep upping the ante....

J23
Im not sure what there is to "do" as a parent in the stands. Talk to your own player about the importance of avoiding this type of behavior? Find out if the umpire violated any rules by failing to take stronger action during the game? If his parents will not or cannot rectify the behavior and his coach has not taken a stand it would be difficult to intervene. Perhaps a call to the AD? Tough situation to sit by and do nothing - but I do not know what the appropriate action might be.
Answering this as an umpire only....

This player is asking/begging/daring to be ejected so many times...and as the umpire, I would have to oblige him a number of times...

Now saying that I am an umpire who has what most of you would call a reputation of not being ejection happy....but I dont pass on problem children on to other umpires....if you deserve to go, you go....

Helmet toss- Possible ejection offense....yet, not 100%...would get a warning for sure.....

Safe Call- Nothing clearer than this...he is trying to get ejected...because he has been allowed to act this way on the field before....short leash here...he throws the ball back, no issue....continues to protest....its time for him to go...."ejection" #1

Profanity to crowd...the umpire who didnt punch this young mans ticket to the bus ride home is a fool....gone "ejection" #2

Contact with 2nd baseman...."ejection"#3....but sounds as if he looked pretty foolish falling down anyway...but I'd cap this off with an ejection...I always keep a close eye on players who have had words earlier in the game anyway...

Chirping at SS- probably not an issue since he wouldnt have been there by then...but who ever thinks that riding the umpire ever gets you anywhere is a fool as well....

so by my tally, I would have ejected him at least 3 times...

just my .02
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If his coach can't stop him from embarrassing his team, he should eject him from the squad. If that doesn't happen the coach should be ejected from his position.

Can't do much about replacing the parents, but you can replace the coach.

In this case, no one (umpire, parents, coach) is doing this kid any favors by looking the other way.

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