It happens. I was at a JV game the other day where the 4 kids who threw that day were 84-86 (dropped to about 81 in the later innings), 84-85, 72ish, and 83-84.
All considerably better than my 54ish!
That was my point: I've never heard of a high school kid (much less a 14 year old) who threw mid 80's not make the team.
Rob
I totally agree---he can pitch for us if he throws that well--- we can't teach velocity but we can teach location and how to use the velocity
There is truly something wrong with this picture
I totally agree---he can pitch for us if he throws that well--- we can't teach velocity but we can teach location and how to use the velocity
There is truly something wrong with this picture
GOT ...quote:I'd switch glass suppliers Rob...their product is just too tough! The young hurlers don't have a chance!
Do you remember the Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale trying to break plexiglass ads?
Just wondering how you know hes throwing at that speed.( Jugs,Stalker,Bushnell). Also what is his size? Is he a five tool player? I was wondering how many pitchers the HS team has throwing at that speed or better. Im not doubting your calim completely just looking for more answers why he would get passed up???
How hard did the lefty throw that beat him out???
Not many coaches that I have known let a player know they regret not choosing them.
Good luck to you just the same. So do your home work. You should know that those kind of tools in a player is a bid deal.
How hard did the lefty throw that beat him out???
Not many coaches that I have known let a player know they regret not choosing them.
Good luck to you just the same. So do your home work. You should know that those kind of tools in a player is a bid deal.
You mentioned initially, "He will be 15 this summer, already has a fast ball in the mid 80's."
In a later post, you stated, "He was gunned at the HS try out at 82 and did make it all the way to the last cut, but they took a left hander over him in the end.... The last game he pitched he was gunned by the program at a top speed of 84."
While your son may have topped out at 84, he probably typically pitches in the low 80's. This is the velocity the high school coach saw when evaluating your son.
Best wishes in finding your son a good team to play for.
In a later post, you stated, "He was gunned at the HS try out at 82 and did make it all the way to the last cut, but they took a left hander over him in the end.... The last game he pitched he was gunned by the program at a top speed of 84."
While your son may have topped out at 84, he probably typically pitches in the low 80's. This is the velocity the high school coach saw when evaluating your son.
Best wishes in finding your son a good team to play for.
My kid did not make it high school freshman or sophomore year. he had to decide, should I believe in my ability or believe what one group of high school coaches think. Now it's his senior year and he is the only one going to be playing college ball from our school, maybe ever. The quality of the summer team does not matter IMO as much as the competition it plays and the reps and coaching you get. By the way his high school coach still does not get it, never will, fortunately h.s. ball is relatively unimportant to attaining goals your kid might set.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
GOT ...
Do you remember the Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale trying to break plexiglass ads?
I don't. What was the result...Lexan© didn't lose surely?
URXLNC
My advise don't allow your son to become complacent while thinking that playing on a certain team will be the vehicle for his success. It isn't. Your son will only progress as long as you stay engaged and make certain that he is getting at least two hours everyday of personal coaching.
Team practices are insufficient to develop your son.
JMO
My advise don't allow your son to become complacent while thinking that playing on a certain team will be the vehicle for his success. It isn't. Your son will only progress as long as you stay engaged and make certain that he is getting at least two hours everyday of personal coaching.
Team practices are insufficient to develop your son.
JMO
Two hours a day of personal coaching is a bit much isn't it? Especially during the baseball season
Could be the start of an interesting journey. Briefly this is how my kids saga went so far, asked to be on a 16 and under team like your kid, coaches had no history with him so a clean slate, by the end of the season was "the" guy on the team, from there was asked to be on a fall ball team, a totally different group of talented players, from there a winter workout coach who some of the fall ball guys used, quite a drive but the best thing I ever did, from there a ****** high school season, then a 18u team, then a 4 day college summer baseball camp which he thought was just for fun, where one of the coaches was so impressed gave him a verbal offer on the spot, Offered a spot on a high powered fall and upcoming summer team and right now another clueless high school season.
What I am getting at is let the open doors take him where they will, may cost some dough or drive time but who knows? Also guide but don't lead, a fine line but very important. And most importantly HS ball is just cheap practice for real baseball for my kid.
What I am getting at is let the open doors take him where they will, may cost some dough or drive time but who knows? Also guide but don't lead, a fine line but very important. And most importantly HS ball is just cheap practice for real baseball for my kid.
URXLNC: The one thing I would add is to agree with Infield08 about how you descibe your son's throwing speed. Saying he throws mid-80's and then reading later in the post(s) that he maxed out at 82 in HS tryouts and later at 84 are very different thngs to many people, and can be misleading. My son has been clocked at 85 max that I know of by his HS coaches, but as his typical game speed would be more likely 81 -83, I would describe him as a low 80's thrower, which gives people a more realistic expectation. By the way, he almost did not make varsity, as they had four returning senior starters plus a Junior who throws low 90's, but he was added to the varsity roster late after doing well in pre-season scrimmages. So it may be less unusual than some think that you can get a kid throwing 80+ who does not make varsity. We have one other kid who can top out over 80 who is on our JV team.