"Have you hugged your golfer today?"
Here's the easiest way in MHO. Reverse the games. Have the golfer take the round club and have someone roll it toward his area, then have the 50,000 behind the ropes yelling and screaming.
Then the BB player, gets total quiet and gets to hit off a tee.
Hitting part goes to baseball.
Now, getting the ball in that little hole 400 yards away may be another story.
Then the BB player, gets total quiet and gets to hit off a tee.
Hitting part goes to baseball.
Now, getting the ball in that little hole 400 yards away may be another story.
I don't think this is something that you can compare because both have a degree of difficulty and although the weapons are similar the end result is completely different.
In golf the ball that is hit while stationary, has to be hit to a very small target area, it's flight is "shaped" and elevated depending on the shot, it may be obstructed or hidden within/by the elements, many different sticks are used all having a different purpose and feel, and you only get one swing per at-bat. Baseball has none of those requirements, but it's played by those with more athletic ability.
While most surveys say hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do, baseball never frustrated me like golf does. Not even close, and that's why I think you can call it a sport. You are competing against your toughest competition, yourself.
In golf the ball that is hit while stationary, has to be hit to a very small target area, it's flight is "shaped" and elevated depending on the shot, it may be obstructed or hidden within/by the elements, many different sticks are used all having a different purpose and feel, and you only get one swing per at-bat. Baseball has none of those requirements, but it's played by those with more athletic ability.
While most surveys say hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do, baseball never frustrated me like golf does. Not even close, and that's why I think you can call it a sport. You are competing against your toughest competition, yourself.
If the question is 'which is harder to hit?' the answer would seem obvious. Where a golf ball goes after it's hit is immaterial.
Taking professional players of both sports, baseball players who hit successfully 3 out of 10 times are good; 4 out of 10 are HOFers; golfers hitting successfully at those rates.....would not be professionals. And the other guys at the club would laugh and point.
Taking professional players of both sports, baseball players who hit successfully 3 out of 10 times are good; 4 out of 10 are HOFers; golfers hitting successfully at those rates.....would not be professionals. And the other guys at the club would laugh and point.
quote:Originally posted by 20dad:
n my opinion the hardest thing to hit, without a doubt................ the lottery.
Like we don't know you hit it big 20dad...whatcha' gonna' do with all of that gas you got from SUBWAY?
SPORT VS. GAME
Alas I have the definition!
It is a game if the participants often times are sipping cold brews while participating..ie..Golf, Darts,Cornhole,etc...
Alas I have the definition!
It is a game if the participants often times are sipping cold brews while participating..ie..Golf, Darts,Cornhole,etc...
Is there a slider in the game of golf?
I don't know if it is because I played baseball since age 5, and I play golf just for the last 5, but for me, nothing is harder than hit that small ball straight. I suppose that if Sergio Garcia has to hit a slider will say the contrary.
quote:Originally posted by eddiegaedel:
To me, this question is a "Slam Dunk" but, my fellow weekend hackers think otherwise.
At least your collection of duffers don't have the same problem as this guy...DUFFERS GONE WILD!
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Orlando...we may need an English to American translation with this.
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I've read his book and it still makes no sense...
They're both equally hard. It seems some are comparing hitting 90mph sliders to a tee'd up golf ball.
I've seen people get hit in the head by both.
You can over-analyze both.
I've seen people go to a driving range who have never picked up a golf club before take twenty swings before they finally hit one!
Golf may not have crowd noise, but I hear voices in my head during my backswing, each telling me something different.
Unfortunately,I have found my golf ball in the
hardest spots to hit.Yesterday,the ball was a foot below my feet plugged in a sand trap as I was standing on the side of a hill trying to hit it over a 4 foot lip that was two feet in front of my ball.
Don't compare hitting good pitching against hitting a tee'd up golf ball. Too many variables.
I've seen people get hit in the head by both.
You can over-analyze both.
I've seen people go to a driving range who have never picked up a golf club before take twenty swings before they finally hit one!
Golf may not have crowd noise, but I hear voices in my head during my backswing, each telling me something different.
Unfortunately,I have found my golf ball in the
hardest spots to hit.Yesterday,the ball was a foot below my feet plugged in a sand trap as I was standing on the side of a hill trying to hit it over a 4 foot lip that was two feet in front of my ball.
Don't compare hitting good pitching against hitting a tee'd up golf ball. Too many variables.
Too many variables?
That's why every golf bag should have one of these...
That's why every golf bag should have one of these...
quote:Originally posted by sportsdad&fan:
Golf may not have crowd noise, but I hear voices in my head during my backswing, each telling me something different.
I'm not sure why Tommy Lasorda's arguments are so popular, but I've heard 'em all in this thread.
I think it's all apples and oranges myself.
Let's do!
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I checked with both Johnny Appleseed and Anita Bryant...they both gave the thumbs up.
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I checked with both Johnny Appleseed and Anita Bryant...they both gave the thumbs up.
Teed up a baseball and let 'er rip, broke the head off my driver and only it went 30 yds (but it was down the middle of the fairway).
Put a golf ball in a pitching machine set at 95 mph. Went right through the bat on the 200th swing when I finally made contact. Next time I'll use wood instead of foam.
I guess I have to look back and see who started this thread so I can get reimbursed. The foam bat was cheap but that driver cost a lot.
Put a golf ball in a pitching machine set at 95 mph. Went right through the bat on the 200th swing when I finally made contact. Next time I'll use wood instead of foam.
I guess I have to look back and see who started this thread so I can get reimbursed. The foam bat was cheap but that driver cost a lot.
Most people with baseball skills can hit a baseball. However, most times it would be just fouled off and not in play.
Most people can hit a stationary golf ball, but if it does not go where it is supposed to a golfer will consider it a foul ball but that swing counts as an AB.
If golf was like baseball and you had multiple chances per AB to put the ball in play golf would then be an easy game. The difference is in golf is that you have one swing to make perfect contact or you are penalized on the next. Golf is a game of pure mechanics and focus. You don't have bloopers, "excuse-me" swings, or seeing eye goundballs. Your vision of "shaping" a shot and putting it in a small predetermined area is a one time swing.
Is it harder to hit a baseball...yes, Is it just as hard to "execute" the perfect golf shot with one swing....maybe. One golf swing can cost you the match, in baseball you might get a chance to redeem yourself multiple times each AB.
I don't disagree that hitting the baseball is fundementally harder, I just think it's deeper than that and the end results have to be factored in.
Most people can hit a stationary golf ball, but if it does not go where it is supposed to a golfer will consider it a foul ball but that swing counts as an AB.
If golf was like baseball and you had multiple chances per AB to put the ball in play golf would then be an easy game. The difference is in golf is that you have one swing to make perfect contact or you are penalized on the next. Golf is a game of pure mechanics and focus. You don't have bloopers, "excuse-me" swings, or seeing eye goundballs. Your vision of "shaping" a shot and putting it in a small predetermined area is a one time swing.
Is it harder to hit a baseball...yes, Is it just as hard to "execute" the perfect golf shot with one swing....maybe. One golf swing can cost you the match, in baseball you might get a chance to redeem yourself multiple times each AB.
I don't disagree that hitting the baseball is fundementally harder, I just think it's deeper than that and the end results have to be factored in.
CADad,
I would like to help, but I’m a little short.
I would like to help, but I’m a little short.
Eddie G....you've given me plenty...here take one!
No Contest.
Golf is for sissies. (mostly,well off sissies)
Baseball is for men
Case closed!
LOLOLOLOLOL!
Golf is for sissies. (mostly,well off sissies)
Baseball is for men
Case closed!
LOLOLOLOLOL!
Someone help me out here...I ground my glasses up in the disposal this morning...did soxnole say golf is for sissies or golf is for sassies?
I gotta' agree with soxnole on this point though..."Baseball is for men"...and real men stand up!
I gotta' agree with soxnole on this point though..."Baseball is for men"...and real men stand up!
quote:Soxnole quote:
Golf is for sissies. (mostly,well off sissies)
Soxnole, As soon as the sissies get off the course from a charity tournament you'll have to bring that up with them
.Donny Anderson -Jon Barry -Kurt Bevacqua - Bobby Bonilla
Keith Byars - Dwight Clark - John Congemi - Steve Danneman
John Ebersole - Sean Elliott - Sid Fernandez - Rollie Fingers
Clark Gillies - Ron Harper - Alex Hyde-White -Rickey Jackson
Brad Jackson - Dave Johnson - Seth Joyner - Wally Joyner
Joe Klein - Bruce Laird - Pierre LaRouche - Jack Marin
Ed Marinaro - Tom Matte - Jim McMahon - Stan Mikita
Brian Mitchell - Chris Mohr - Ed Moses - Adam Oates
Gregg Olson - Jimmy Orr - Shane Rawley - Cliff Richey
Chris Redman - Cliff Richey - Brooks Robinson - Steve Rogers
Bret Saberhagen - Mark Simpson - Ken Singleton - Greg Stefan
Sherwood Stewart - BJ Surhoff - Lawrence Taylor - Mickey Tettleton
Gorman Thomas - Jim Thornton - Mike Trombley - Darren Veitch
Joe Washington -Rob Wilson - Willie Wilson
or maybe just with this one.............
On the golf course I've seen people smoking cigarettes as they tee up (the legal and not so legal kind), I've seen 'em with cigars hanging out their mouth, I've seen 'em with a beer close at hand...
Never seen anyone do those things in the batter's box.
There is nooooooooooooooooooo comparision to anything in sport like hitting a moving baseball;
and never saw a golf ball jump up off the ground and hit anyone, never seen one curve, slide, etc.
Again, no comparison.
Never seen anyone do those things in the batter's box.
There is nooooooooooooooooooo comparision to anything in sport like hitting a moving baseball;
and never saw a golf ball jump up off the ground and hit anyone, never seen one curve, slide, etc.
Again, no comparison.
quote:Soxnole, As soon as the sissies get off the course from a charity tournament you'll have to bring that up with them .
I think it would be easier to tell Barry he is a sissy to his face then to try and wedge a hat smaller then an 8 on his dome...Not a small head (anymore)
I've had this very same conversation with a friend of mine who played in the NBA and is now a sports radio talk show host in LA.
What is the hardest thing in sports to do? He says it isn't hitting a baseball, or a golf ball. He says it is .... boxing! Take a Mike Tyson punch in the jaw.
Then go 15 rounds and try to put the beat down on him.
(For the record, I have hit a heck of a lot more golf balls than baseballs in the last 30 years.) Which is easier to hit? Obviously a golf ball is easier to hit. It is not moving.
But that isn't really the right question. You don't just hit a golf ball. You control it. You hit it 250-300 yards within 2 degrees of the centerline to hit the fairway, and then hit it a specific distance on a specific line to get it close to the pin.
The skill involved in doing that at the professional competitive level is in my view pretty much on par with the skill involved in hitting a baseball successfully for hits against major league pitching. Both are incredibly difficult.
A bunch of fat guys are really good at controlling a golf ball. A bunch of pretty chubby guys can succeed in batting a baseball, too.
Some professional golfers actually use tobacco products while playing the game at its highest competitve level! Can you imagine?
Oh ... some baseball players do too.(In fact, I'll bet percentage wise, a lot more baseball players through the history of the game chewed tobacco than golfers who smoked.
And as the golfers always point out ... they have to play their foul balls.
Golfers insist on total silence as they hit, so they don't lose their focus, while batters hit in front of 35,000 screaming (sometimes booing) fans....
But golfers don't have contracts. Their pay each week depends on how they perform. They might take the deal if you offered multi year contracts in exchange for the fans being allowed to scream.
At the end of the day, there are roughly the same number of people making a living playing competitive golf as there are playing baseball, and the two sports have been around as professional sports for about the same amount of time.
I'm guessing that both are pretty darn difficult to do. Roughly equivalent.
JMHO
What is the hardest thing in sports to do? He says it isn't hitting a baseball, or a golf ball. He says it is .... boxing! Take a Mike Tyson punch in the jaw.
Then go 15 rounds and try to put the beat down on him.
(For the record, I have hit a heck of a lot more golf balls than baseballs in the last 30 years.) Which is easier to hit? Obviously a golf ball is easier to hit. It is not moving.
But that isn't really the right question. You don't just hit a golf ball. You control it. You hit it 250-300 yards within 2 degrees of the centerline to hit the fairway, and then hit it a specific distance on a specific line to get it close to the pin.
The skill involved in doing that at the professional competitive level is in my view pretty much on par with the skill involved in hitting a baseball successfully for hits against major league pitching. Both are incredibly difficult.
A bunch of fat guys are really good at controlling a golf ball. A bunch of pretty chubby guys can succeed in batting a baseball, too.
Some professional golfers actually use tobacco products while playing the game at its highest competitve level! Can you imagine?
Oh ... some baseball players do too.(In fact, I'll bet percentage wise, a lot more baseball players through the history of the game chewed tobacco than golfers who smoked.
And as the golfers always point out ... they have to play their foul balls.
Golfers insist on total silence as they hit, so they don't lose their focus, while batters hit in front of 35,000 screaming (sometimes booing) fans....
But golfers don't have contracts. Their pay each week depends on how they perform. They might take the deal if you offered multi year contracts in exchange for the fans being allowed to scream.
At the end of the day, there are roughly the same number of people making a living playing competitive golf as there are playing baseball, and the two sports have been around as professional sports for about the same amount of time.
I'm guessing that both are pretty darn difficult to do. Roughly equivalent.
JMHO
quote:What is the hardest thing in sports to do?
That is a really good question Rob. How did Ted Williams know exactly that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do? Because it was hard for him?
As you note with golf, controlling the ball 250-300 yards away is not exactly easy to do. What about flying down the court and dunking over Tim Duncan - how many baseball players can do that? How many can do a back flip on the balance beam as was pointed out earlier. What about trying to hit a receiver on the dead run 40 yards down field when there are several real fast and strong guys trying to hurt you? Who is even qualified to arbitrate these type of questions? Bo Jackson? Deon Sanders?
It makes sense to me that hitting a baseball could be the hardest thing to do but I have no clue how to actually determine that
I don't think boxing takes more skill than hitting against a MLB pitcher, but having been in the ring I will say that nothing will motivate you to work harder on your conditioning than boxing. It is amazing how long 3 minutes can be.
Jim Bouton said the hardest thing about professional baseball was explaining to your wife why she had to get a penicillin shot for your kidney infection.
Golf ball is harder. Baseball you are reacting to a stimulus. Hitting a golf ball is all you.
quote:Golf ball is harder. Baseball you are reacting to a stimulus. Hitting a golf ball is all you.
BS. KNEE DEEP
I DO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO HANDLE IT!!
Good point. Golf balls are harder than baseballs. Therefore golf balls are harder to hit in a manner of speaking. Now, which is more difficult to hit?
Tripledad:
I hope you have a pair for me too after that "stimulus" line.
I hope you have a pair for me too after that "stimulus" line.
"You can't hit what you can't see."
……Yankee Ping Bodie explaining why he struck out against Walter Johnson
……Yankee Ping Bodie explaining why he struck out against Walter Johnson
When professional baseball players retire, they play golf.
When professional golfers retire, what do they play, baseball?
Nope. More golf.
When professional golfers retire, what do they play, baseball?
Nope. More golf.