Who gets the win

5th inning pitcher as he was pitcher of record at the time his team took the lead

TRhit -
I know you are one of the best at scoring questions. I am curious though about one potential secenario. What if the visiting team pulls their pitcher for a pinch hitter in the 6th? Then would it still be the 5th inning pitcher?
Thanks for your feedback.

Until another pitcher takes the mound, the first pitcher is still the pitcher of record.

I am in full accord with Eamnski

Okay Thank You
I thought it would be the entire inning since they were visitors. I guess it goes to previous innings? Because if the pitcher for the 6th inning let a run or 2 go so the home team came back he would of got the tire or lose right? Even though the visiting team was loosing the whole game except for a brief period of time?(top of 6th) Just thought when the innings end the stats stay for that inning not fowarded to the next inning depending on circumstance?

Oh and all the stat programs we have it says that new pitcher in 6th would be winner. Hence my confusion.

TRhit is right. Here is the rule from OBR, which is likely the rule set being used in a 6 inning game. Fed and NCAA are similar, but have explicit provisions for games of less than 9 innings.

"10.17 WINNING AND LOSING PITCHER
(a) The official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team
assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in
which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead,
unless ......"

The stuff followng the unless isn't related to this situation.

That is not the first instance I have heard of a stat program not matching up with the rules.

You should try to deal with the situation where a run is earned to the reliever's record, but not to the team as a whole. I've yet to see a stat program that can handle it.

Sometimes manual record keeping is still the best way!

I think I know the answer, but I'll ask it anyway.

Starter leaves after three with a 2-1 lead. My freshman son, pitching his first varsity game, comes in and pitches the last 4 not giving up any runs. We win 3-1. It was a full 7 inning game.

Official score keeper gives win to starter.

I believe the starter has to go 4 to get the win and there is no such thing as a 4 inning save in high school baseball.

Am I correct.

don't know about other states but 7 inning game needs to have the starter go 4 innings for the win.

NCAA rules permit a win in less than 5 innings if the coaches agree before first pitch that it's a "staff game" and no one will be going long.

NFHS has no parallel rule. The 4-inning standard is always in effect.

In fact, NFHS doesn't even provide an exception for slaughter games, but I know many a scorekeeper who would fudge it for a 5-inning blowout.

Your son therefore does get the win as jfsbndr states.

I don't know how you could get a 4-inning save. If you come in with the lead already in place, then if the pitcher went 4, the game should end in 7. If you come in and hold the lead for more than 3, the starter must not have gone all 4, so it would seem that you would always get the win in that situation. And if you get the W you cannot also get a save.

I think the only way you get a 4 inning save is when the official score keeper credits the starter with the win after only pitching 3 innings...

Oh well, the important thing is that they won.