Who is better

They are both great----Pujols will get the edge from most because of his skill in the field


I would take Manny

I'll take Albert Pujols any day over Manny.

For the way the question is asked I'll take Manny. He's already accomplished enough to make the Hall of Fame. In several playoff series he's proved to be a dangerous hitter when the big money is on the line.

Pujols for me. And perhaps an easier swing to emulate and teach.

No-brainer for me.

King Albert has done some HISTORIC things at the plate in first few years in the big-leagues. Striking out an average of only 63.25 times a season, while having a career BA that's 20-points higher than Manny... AMAZING!

Manny is a GREAT-HOF-hitter (Striking out an average of 104.1875 times a season, while having arguably one of the greatest DH-4-hole hitters directly in back of him for 7-seaons - something that Albert has never had.), but is not even close to Albert as an on-field-leader, a fielder, a baserunner, or an overall BASEBALL-player.

Give me Alert EVERYTIME, and twice on Sundays, please.

Right now Manny. He has a longer track record. He has a "sweeter" swing, that could be emulated by any hitter.

But in the end, it may very well be Pujols. He does have a very good swing that fits him, and would be very good for big, strong kids to emulate.

goodpitch-
from launch to contact they both have same mechanics...

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Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
goodpitch-
from launch to contact they both have same mechanics...

Yes, that's correct. Their core mechanics (which are from launch to contact) are the same and obviously both very good. It's the before and after that are different. And kids see the stance and start, and the finish more than anything else, and that's what they try and emulate more than anything else.

BTW-To some their core mechanics may seem different, because Manny hits the low pitch very well and frequently, and Albert feasts on high pitches. But the core mechanics are the same, just an adjustment is made based on location.
I still don't understand why pitchers keep challenging Pujols upstairs.

Right now,I don't think it matters what you throw Pujols,he seems to be crushing everything this year.


It has been said he has changed his mechanics this year,or maybe just tweaked his mechanics would be more appropiate.


Can anyone put a finger on what he has supposedly adjusted?

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Originally posted by RJM:
For the way the question is asked I'll take Manny. He's already accomplished enough to make the Hall of Fame. In several playoff series he's proved to be a dangerous hitter when the big money is on the line.

These are not exactly shabby numbers and no one has ever hit over 30 homeruns EVERY year their first 8 years in the league except Pujols.And he does it without striking out a ton.



Yr Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR GS RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
2001 Cardinals 161 590 112 194 47 4 37 1 130 69 6 93 1 7 9 21 .329 .403 .610
2002 Cardinals 157 590 118 185 40 2 34 2 127 72 13 69 0 4 9 20 .314 .394 .561
2003 Cardinals 157 591 137 212 51 1 43 0 124 79 12 65 0 5 10 13 .359 .439 .667
2004 Cardinals 154 592 133 196 51 2 46 0 123 84 12 52 0 9 7 21 .331 .415 .657
2005 Cardinals 161 591 129 195 38 2 41 1 117 97 27 65 0 3 9 19 .330 .430 .609
2006 Cardinals 143 535 119 177 33 1 49 1 137 92 28 50 0 3 4 20 .331 .431 .671
2007 Cardinals 158 565 99 185 38 1 32 0 103 99 22 58 0 8 7 27 .327 .429 .568
2008 Cardinals 148 524 100 187 44 0 37 1 116 104 34 54 0 8 5 16 .357 .462 .653
Career G AB R H 2B 3B HR GS RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
8 Years 1,239 4,578 947 1,531 342 13 319 6 977 696 154 506 1 47 60 157 .334 .425 .624

Manny in the same length of time.

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos

2001 29 BOS AL 142 620 529 93 162 33 2 41 125 0 1 81 147 .306 .405 .609 1.014 161 322 9 8 0 2 25 D7 MVP-9,SS
2002 30 BOS AL 120 518 436 84 152 31 0 33 107 0 0 73 85 .349 .450 .647 1.097 184 282 13 8 0 1 14 7D/9 MVP-9,SS
2003 31 BOS AL 154 679 569 117 185 36 1 37 104 3 1 97 94 .325 .427 .587 1.014 160 334 22 8 0 5 28 *7D MVP-6,SS
2004 32 BOS AL 152 663 568 108 175 44 0 43 130 2 4 82 124 .308 .397 .613 1.009 152 348 17 6 0 7 15 *7D MVP-3,SS
2005 33 BOS AL 152 650 554 112 162 30 1 45 144 1 0 80 119 .292 .388 .594 .982 153 329 20 10 0 6 9 *7/D MVP-4,SS
2006 34 BOS AL 130 558 449 79 144 27 1 35 102 0 1 100 102 .321 .439 .619 1.058 165 278 13 1 0 8 16 *7/D MVP-18,SS
2007 35 BOS AL 133 569 483 84 143 33 1 20 88 0 0 71 92 .296 .388 .493 .881 126 238 21 7 0 8 13 *7D
2008 36 TOT 153 654 552 102 183 36 1 37 121 3 0 87 124 .332 .430 .601 1.031 164 332 17 11 0 4 24 *7D

Manny was mailing it in his last two years in Boston. Look how good he was in LA. Imagine him trying like that all the time. I think he was better when he was a doubles hitter rather than a long ball guy. He was an RBI machine.

I think it says an awful lot about Manny & Pujols that no one has mentioned any other players in this debate, not even ARod.

But what does that say about ARod?

Did you say A-Rod?

The question was about Pujols and Manny, not Alex "I Love Kissing Myself In The Mirror" Rodriguez.

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Originally posted by getagoodpitchtohit:
I think it says an awful lot about Manny & Pujols that no one has mentioned any other players in this debate, not even ARod.

But what does that say about ARod?

Yes it does,usually there would be something said about someone else that does something better or they should be doing something this way or that way.IMO,Pujols does EVERYTHING right,not just hitting and Manny is ,well,you know,manny.