No it has nothing to do with strength. Hes 6'0 205 and very strong. He has great bat speed and power. Again, he has alot of success at the plate. But I noticed that he has a tendency to be out in front of the offspeed even when he recognizes its offspeed. You can see him react to it then he seems to pull the trigger too early. No lunge in his swing he keeps his weight balanced but seems to have a problem with waiting for the ball to get deep enough on some off speed pitches. Now he does sometimes and hits the curve and change well. I was nitpicking a little after all the discussion about finding flaws that could hurt a hitter down the road. What I was looking for is some drills that can help him wait longer and let the offspeed get deeper. He routinely hits bp balls 385-400 feet I dont think its a strength issue. Its not a problem with being quick enough because he can mash upper 80s pitching now as has already this year. Its a timing issue in my mind. Now understand he is crushing in bp and off our pitchers and went 1-3 with a bomb in his first HS game he is only 15 a Freshman. He hit .580 in the Nationals last summer against some very good pitching. I am taking some of you guys advice and trying to recognize flaws. Feedback Teacherman Swingbuster PG anyone.
Have you tried a "Hands Back Hitter"?
No I have not BlueDog I have heard it discussed on here by others tell me more about it.
Coach May,
We just bought one and used it in 3 practices so far. It is used to separate the stride and swing. In effect, it teaches you to stay back. We use it as our "change up" station.
We just bought one and used it in 3 practices so far. It is used to separate the stride and swing. In effect, it teaches you to stay back. We use it as our "change up" station.
RedBird..
see Aaron clip
http://s6.invisionfree.com/Hitting/index.php?showtopic=93&st=0
What do you think about a loading cue of "work the bottom hand under the top"?
See Aaron do this........
see Aaron clip
http://s6.invisionfree.com/Hitting/index.php?showtopic=93&st=0
What do you think about a loading cue of "work the bottom hand under the top"?
See Aaron do this........
Do you use that as a modified version of c0cking the wrists?
SwingBuster hooked me up I will let you know how it works out. Ill take it to the school and try it out on the HS boys. RedBird how do you and your guys like it?
Coach May, you must stay back to hit the ball with the "Hands Back Hitter".......It's an excellent design.....
Bird..
Look closely at two things.
THe lead elbow get close to the body as the rear elbow gets to the top of the load cycle. The lead elbow CANNOT get close if your bottom hand doesn't work under the top
The bat goes vertical or out toward 1B
You cannot see his hands but the bottom works underneath the top...yes as the hands coc-k.
People that say that you hit with ...hands and hips... can be right if hand action loading is the feel of the bottom work under the top hand. THis brings the lead elbow down. Hand action can lead the load action if done properly and remove tension from the process.
I have been working on this with my son..who has hit with dead hands before. He went out to the field during PE today and there was one ball in somebody's glove and and a cage bat out there. He had a friend throw it to him from the mound. He hit it 335 over the LF fence. He came home and said " hey Dad...that works".
Look closely at two things.
THe lead elbow get close to the body as the rear elbow gets to the top of the load cycle. The lead elbow CANNOT get close if your bottom hand doesn't work under the top
The bat goes vertical or out toward 1B
You cannot see his hands but the bottom works underneath the top...yes as the hands coc-k.
People that say that you hit with ...hands and hips... can be right if hand action loading is the feel of the bottom work under the top hand. THis brings the lead elbow down. Hand action can lead the load action if done properly and remove tension from the process.
I have been working on this with my son..who has hit with dead hands before. He went out to the field during PE today and there was one ball in somebody's glove and and a cage bat out there. He had a friend throw it to him from the mound. He hit it 335 over the LF fence. He came home and said " hey Dad...that works".
Coach May,
Our kids like it. We have focused our winter hitting on staying back and ID'ing the CU. This machine helps reinforce it. One adjustment we had to make for our 11U kids was to lower the string to launch the ball. Initially, it was set a little too high off the ground and our boys were striding too high with their front foot in effort to activate the string.
swingbuster,
What do you think of a circular hand load action? Like a reverse 'c' for RHH.
Our kids like it. We have focused our winter hitting on staying back and ID'ing the CU. This machine helps reinforce it. One adjustment we had to make for our 11U kids was to lower the string to launch the ball. Initially, it was set a little too high off the ground and our boys were striding too high with their front foot in effort to activate the string.
swingbuster,
What do you think of a circular hand load action? Like a reverse 'c' for RHH.
see above ,,,is this what you speak of?
Coach May
You have a PM.
You have a PM.
Carl Yastrzemski, it was effortless.
Here is another "PG" type story that is currently playing itsself out and it should be of concern to all of those coaches that have a talented player that is hitting "well", but may have "flaws" in their swing.
Drew Meyer was an incredibly gifted and talented SS for the Univ. of SC. He had ML speed, range, arm strength and fielding abilities. He batted very well throughout HS and college. Drew was the 10th player drafted overall and number 1 in 2002 by the Texas Rangers and received a couple of million dollars.
The report that I read last month was that he was left off the 40-man roster this winter and made available for the Rule 5 Draft. Nobody selected him, mostly because he has struggled with the transition to the wooden bat. He has dropped in the organizations depth chart and without a significant improvement probably won't last much longer.
Maybe some of you coaches only care about how the kid is hitting today and where he should fit in your lineup, but IMO, if you, as a coach, see something that could help his chances for success later, than you should think about the kid and not just your personal win/loss record. JMO.
Drew Meyer was an incredibly gifted and talented SS for the Univ. of SC. He had ML speed, range, arm strength and fielding abilities. He batted very well throughout HS and college. Drew was the 10th player drafted overall and number 1 in 2002 by the Texas Rangers and received a couple of million dollars.
The report that I read last month was that he was left off the 40-man roster this winter and made available for the Rule 5 Draft. Nobody selected him, mostly because he has struggled with the transition to the wooden bat. He has dropped in the organizations depth chart and without a significant improvement probably won't last much longer.
Maybe some of you coaches only care about how the kid is hitting today and where he should fit in your lineup, but IMO, if you, as a coach, see something that could help his chances for success later, than you should think about the kid and not just your personal win/loss record. JMO.
Callaway
There are times a kid cannot make the transition from aluminum to wood--it may not be a flaw in his swing-it may just be better pitching and defense that he is facing and he has taken his talent asd far as he can take it--it happens
There are times a kid cannot make the transition from aluminum to wood--it may not be a flaw in his swing-it may just be better pitching and defense that he is facing and he has taken his talent asd far as he can take it--it happens
swingbuster,
yes...very similiar. I didn't see your post before I posted.
I have been teaching this load to my little guys since they were 9. We picked up a new kid this year and he has hit with dead hands. Now that he is loading properly, he has timing issues. Constant tinkering...
yes...very similiar. I didn't see your post before I posted.
I have been teaching this load to my little guys since they were 9. We picked up a new kid this year and he has hit with dead hands. Now that he is loading properly, he has timing issues. Constant tinkering...
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Callaway
There are times a kid cannot make the transition from aluminum to wood--it may not be a flaw in his swing-it may just be better pitching and defense that he is facing and he has taken his talent asd far as he can take it--it happens
Your real name is Yogi, isn't it?
Come on....come clean.
TR, I agree 100% when you write,"
And that is why I’ve said that it is important for a player to learn the fundamentals that will take them as far as their talent will allow.
That way there shouldn’t be a question of why they are going no further.
quote:There are times a kid cannot make the transition from aluminum to wood--it may not be a flaw in his swing-it may just be better pitching and defense that he is facing and he has taken his talent asd far as he can take it--it happens
And that is why I’ve said that it is important for a player to learn the fundamentals that will take them as far as their talent will allow.
That way there shouldn’t be a question of why they are going no further.
I have always said put some wood in your hands if you want to expose the flaws in a swing. The flaws are still in the aluminum swing but they seem to show themselves to be more evident when swinging wood. My son has always swung alot with wood. Mainly because he likes the feel when he hits it good. I like it because it gives you instant feedback when you miss it or hit hit good. What do you guys think? I never swung metal we only had wood when I was coming through. When I started coaching I started hitting some with the metal bats. There is no comparison in the two to me. The metal bats are so light and barrell heavy. Even when I dont hit it good it flys off of the bat. I personally think that kids that aspire to play past metal should spend a ton of time swinging wood. I think it helps with mechanics which will help with the metal.
Coach May,
As soon as my son is strong enough to handle the weight of a wooden bat, he will start swinging one. I always liked te instant feedback I got from wood.
As soon as my son is strong enough to handle the weight of a wooden bat, he will start swinging one. I always liked te instant feedback I got from wood.
Coach May,
Well said. I gotta believe you are preaching to the choir here regarding wood.
Not sure what you meant by metal bats being barrel heavy. It seems like they keep trying to hide the weight in the handle so you can swing them like a fungo bat.
Well said. I gotta believe you are preaching to the choir here regarding wood.
Not sure what you meant by metal bats being barrel heavy. It seems like they keep trying to hide the weight in the handle so you can swing them like a fungo bat.
