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Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions?

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

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How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? Sophomore now

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? D3

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?  He's staying through graduation or getting a job

If he switched schools, why did he switch?  N/A

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?   He didn't see any action.  D3 schedules were truncated to in conference only with no mid week game.  That lead to 3 games a weekend and very short rotations for pitchers.  He came into Freshman fall rehabbing a shoulder issue and got hurt at the start of spring practice but even if healthy he likely wasn't breaking into the rotation.  Only 1 Freshman pitcher saw any time - 5 IP but Freshman position players took time. Especially at Catcher.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?  100% mental grind and getting used to NOT playing two way.  Going from a guy anchoring 1B and hitting 3rd to a PO was difficult. Fighting through injuries.  Learning how to deal with a new Head Coach.  Realizing that he needed more time in weight room and trying to play with 23 year old graduate students.  On top of that his school is heavy on homework, tough graders and there is no such thing as "introductory" courses.  So finding time to focus on course work and really putting in the time needed to understand the subjects.  Oh, saying no to parties if you need time to study or rest.  Outside of that it was easy for him.....

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?  Did not meet HIS expectations even with all the advice his father gave him which came from this board.  Odd that  17/18 year old boys don't listen....

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? Drill into him that there are no guarantees on playing time.   We read here frequently things along the lines of "my son is playing D2/D3 so he can play right away" or things along those lines.  Wipe that from your son's mind immediately and try to impart that he will have to go in ready to compete from the first practice.   No junior or senior is going to give away his time to a Freshman. It needs to be taken.  For D3 parents, he is there for a degree and to secure his future not as a baseball player.  Hey, can a D3 get drafted and make the show?  It happens but you might have a better shot at powerball. 

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?  I am confident that he will complete all 4 years.  He loves his teammates and coaches.  He's figured out how to manage workload and get the grades needed. He is not injured, he's at peak velo and he should get innings this year.   I just paid his Spring semester bill which means only 4 more to go but 3 full baseball seasons  (and 2 semester payments left for my daughter).  Time moves quickly.  Enjoy the journey.

OK, I have a couple projects I'm avoiding, so I'll go first - Edit - second. Good questions.

@Francis7 posted:

Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions?

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

     Fall 2017

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

    D3

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

    Yes.

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

    He stayed;  now his older brother.... that is another topic....

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

      Started from game one.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

    Coach wanted him to transform from a speed/contact guy to a power guy.  This took a lot of eating, a lot of lifting, and adjustments to his swing and approach. I think that was all challenging and surprising, but also fun for him.  The academics were a challenge too, plus there was a wildfire in our town that took out his BFF's house among many others, so that was a big distraction.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

       Excellent for everyone.  The best aspect, from a parent's perspective, was the culture of academic excellence fostered by the school, the program and the players themselves.  Seniors helped freshmen adjust to college level time management and work, and freshman paid that forward  when they became upperclassmen.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

     For the kid, find out the team's regimen and any expectations for weight gain and get on that the summer before. Also, time management is the number one skill they must learn in order to succeed,  particularly at a HA, so get on that too.   As a parent, try to detach a little. Don't wear it if your kid's not playing, or if he's not playing well that day.  He's where he wants to be regardless.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

   Yeah, well, except for that whole pandemic thing.

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How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? – 10 years ago

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? – D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? – One school all 4 years

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? – My son was passed over on the travel team for their 1st Spring series despite having a very good Fall.  He worked his way onto the travel team for the next series in the Spring.   When conference play started, he had earned a starting pitcher spot.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year? – Too many to detail.  But if I had to pick one thing it would be how he stayed on top of his studies while playing college baseball.   Time management was never his strong suit in high school.   It became absolutely essential in college.  Something kicked in when he got to college.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? – I think it surpassed his expectations.  He had a great pitching coach and he was learning new things.  As an introvert, the college baseball social experience was new to him so he had to adapt.   My expectations centered around playing time and fairness.  I expected the Coach to always be fair and reward the best players by putting them in the lineup.  That didn’t always happen.  M son saw it too, but said very little about it.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? – This has been detailed on HSBBWeb many times.  But I’ll distill it down to 5 points.  First, show up in the best physical and baseball shape possible.  Second, competition for playing time is fierce.   It will be a grind.   Be prepared to compete like your baseball life depended on it.  Third, stay on top of your studies and don’t let anything trip you up academically. Manage your time like it is the most valuable thing in the world.   Fourth, be a great teammate and support everyone.   You don’t have to like all your teammates but you have to support them.  Fifth, don’t give the HC a reason to keep you out of the lineup.

PS...edited.  One more thing, college coaches seem make their minds up very quickly about incoming freshmen.  I hesitate to use the word "judgemental" but that is surely what it looks like.  The recruit is part of the solution or he is not.  Very few are given a second chance.  My son told me about a couple of very talented players that played it "cool" and nonchalant during the Fall of freshmen year.   It did not work out well for them at all despite what they did in practice after freshmen year...the HC had his mind made up.   Again, be ready to bust your hump immediately and make a positive impression.  College HC have many options.   The recruit has significantly less options.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? – No, he has a year of eligibility left.  He was hurt his junior year and therefore has a year left.  I don't see him taking advantage of that as he is working full time, married, has a mortgage and is getting a masters degree.

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How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? 6 years ago

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? Yes and masters

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? Pitched the top of the 9th in the first game with score 4-0. Left the game with the score 4-3 man on 2nd with no outs. They had to score 2 in the bottom of the ninth to get the win. He didn't see the field in the next 19 games.  Got mop up time and stopped the bleeding several times. Started to get innings with game on the line. Pitched about 25 innings.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year? Had to become an expert in time management. His first semester was overwelming.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? The school he attended was a reach both academically and athletically, but it was the school where his grandfather was a professor, dream school. We were both just hoping he wouldn't get cut!!!

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? Keep up on their schoolwork, work their butt off, be a good teammate, if they are not getting playing time, stay focused, take advanatage of opportunites,

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? 5 years, was injured his junior year.

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? last season

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? D2

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? n/a

If he switched schools, why did he switch? n/a

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? regular starter

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year? the quality of pitching pretty much every game especially league games. 

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?  It was tougher than I thought overall.  I think he thought the same thing...he may have thought hed come in and dominate but he didnt as often as hed have liked.  Also, both of us were amazed that every team had several really good players..wayyyy different than high school...there werent many gimmes when it came to facing pitching...everything was pretty much 86-91 mph with a few outliers each way velocity-wise

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?  Come in ready to compete.  Dont get too high or too low  emotionally.  As for the parent...support your player though the highs and lows...be positive and dont criticize...let them talk about baseball on their terms for the most part...take them to lunch/dinner after the game if you can....enjoy every second

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? n/a

@Francis7 posted:

Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions?

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Tough question to start off with.  First freshman year was 2019 - redshirt, second freshman year was 2020 covid year - third freshman year was 2021.

Will finish undergrad degree this spring while completing soph year of eligibility. 

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

D1, Juco, D2

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

No. currently on school number 3

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

Scholly was not likely to be renewed at D1, so entered the portal.  Left Juco after graduating (2020 - covid year) because spending 3rd year of college at Juco would not have done anything for education

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

Redshirted.  Was told last week of March while stretching for practice.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Was not ready for personal attacks from HC  and when it was determined scholarship would not be renewed - everything from his personality to his faith - all in an effort to have him "volunteer" to enter portal -

It was not just him.  There were 4 others receiving similar treatment.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

I think it missed -

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Approach it a little like that NFL Films shot where the coach is yelling at his defense -

Watch the pass, watch the pass, watch the screen, watch the screen, watch the draw, watch the draw.....Ah hell, watch everything...

Baseball never changes... 50% of the roster plays and pitches, the other 50% either love it enough to keep fighting....or they don't...and your son is awesome no matter what...

If he loves the game...find somewhere to play it

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

He will complete 4 years of baseball and 6 years of college at the same time.  With a master's degree...

I think I'm finally starting to settle in at HSBBW because when I read this post's title, I guessed it was started by Franny before opening it!  Does that make me wise?  Or simply means I have a brain?  The jury's still out - more to follow...

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?  Just started back on August 2nd.

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Juco (Jayhawk conference Kansas)

If he switched schools, why did he switch?  His goal is to play years 3 and 4 at a D1.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?  Playing time this fall was largely equal for the entire roster.  Next spring my best guess is that he'll play some, but not start.  Unless he's able to mash out of the gate.  Defensively, he's absolutely ready to start as a freshman in multiple positions.  No redshirts in the program that aren't medical.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?  Embarrassingly, it's probably that his PBR ranking and metrics meant absolutely nothing.  My son's ranking and metrics are significantly better than 97% of the players at the program and he was their first 2021 offer.  While I didn't expect that to guarantee him anything, I figured it would at least be SOME sort on an advantage for him.  Nope.  Nada.  That's something most newbie parents will struggle to believe.  That sort of thing MIGHT help some with recruiting, but means nothing once your cleats touch down on campus.  But it could be good news for recruits that are self-conscious about their ranking and metrics!

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?  Way too early to say, but as of now, things are proving harder than our initial expectations.  I think lots of us openly tell ourselves we know it'll be much harder than anything previous, but lots of us have kids who have always risen to the top and we still have a confidence in that.  But college ball doesn't care about your past confidence.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?  I HATE to give this advice because of what it means giving up, but I'd advise HS seniors to devote their last summer before college to playing against the best competition possible.  If you can get onto a summer collegiate league roster, do it.  My son opted to play legion ball this summer with his high school buddies under a green HS coach instead of travel ball or a collegiate league.  He didn't take a single day off from baseball/lifting/etc all summer, so it's not that he throttled back in favor of partying (but he absolutely still did party a lot) and relaxing.  But based on the difficultly he's had standing out with fall ball, I think playing in a collegiate summer league would have been best.  He most certainly EARNED the right to play with his buddies this summer, but there is a price associated with doing so.  It sucks that it's the world we live in, but succeeding in college baseball has terrible odds to begin with, so every advantage matters.

@DanJ posted:

I HATE to give this advice because of what it means giving up, but I'd advise HS seniors to devote their last summer before college to playing against the best competition possible.  If you can get onto a summer collegiate league roster, do it.  My son opted to play legion ball this summer with his high school buddies under a green HS coach instead of travel ball or a collegiate league.  He didn't take a single day off from baseball/lifting/etc all summer, so it's not that he throttled back in favor of partying (but he absolutely still did party a lot) and relaxing.  But based on the difficultly he's had standing out with fall ball, I think playing in a collegiate summer league would have been best.  He most certainly EARNED the right to play with his buddies this summer, but there is a price associated with doing so.  It sucks that it's the world we live in, but succeeding in college baseball has terrible odds to begin with, so every advantage matters.

I'm sure it varies by region, and it may be changing as well, but my son also played Legion during his rising Freshman year.  Or rather, Connie Mack - that's part of Legion, right? We didn't have a good, affordable, nearby collegiate option, and it allowed him to see and play with friends and to make some money.  Most of his teammates were either college students or college bound (mostly Juco) and the opposition was very similar.  They played one team frequently that had two incoming Pac 12 pitchers. There were poorer teams too but overall the competition was good enough to get him ready for the fall.  Fall at D3, BTW, is probably more crucial than any other division, as coaches  have very limited contact with the players.

@Francis7 posted:

Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions?

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Son#2 - 9 years ago

Son#3 - 6 years ago

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

Son#2 - D3, Acedemic

Son#3 - D2, finished Juco

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

Son#2 - Yes

Son#3 - No, stayed 2 years, 1 as RedShirt/Shoulder Labrum Tear, then 1 year at Juco (nothing further)

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

Son#3 - Grades and motivation to do school work

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

Son#2 - Every 4 games, Starting P

Son#3 - Pitched/relief opening weekend in a blowout loss, got a few more outings

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Son#2 - He actually had to study in college... Some teammates wouldn't put in the effort - it's tough to be a P when your starting SS and CF struggled, but didn't put in the effort to be better.

Son#3 - Freedom has it's cost/price...

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Son#2 - He's an athlete with the mentality of I'm going to play and he did - so in that aspect met... For me, happiness and joy at seeing him perform well at a sport he loved.

Son#3 - I would say it didn't meet mainly because he was compared against much better athletes. That FB you relied on in HS is BP for a college senior (as he found out in his first outing).  As a parent, proud / happy that we was able to accomplished, sad that the lure of continuing to play baseball wasn't enough to keep him studying.  Very frustrating as a parent that the college expects to pay the bills will not share certain information - there's a lot of take and hiding behind FERPA when all they want is for you to fill out your FAFSA.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Player - Make sure the school you choose passes the broken leg, arm, etc. test.  Will you be happy at the school if you cannot play your chosen sport. Be a great teammate and forget being that prima donna you were at your HS or travel team. Everyone is as good as you.  Remember how much that coach that recruited you said to you - guess what he's telling every player the same thing past, present, and especially future. 

Parents - Don't be a helicopter. If you watch the show Survivor, recall the phrase "you have done all you can do in this game, now your fate is in the hands of the jury" - there's a corollary there.  Be supportive, go to the games, cheer on the team, let your child talk to the coach... Don't be too surprised/upset if your child wants to go out with friends in the evening when you visit - trust me you don't want to be out to 2AM anyway... Get your child to sign their FERPA form before you drop them off or make a payment. It's the only way you will know how they're really doing in the classroom.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

Son#2 - Yes, played all 4 years, then 3 years law school... His role changed Sr year to relief

Son#3 - No, grades - even at the Juco he failed one course... He had a D2 coach wanting him to join his program, but he chose not to.

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Last year was his freshman year.

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

P5 D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

He is still there.

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

Less competitive D1 schools reached out to him through friends, etc. showing interest if he wanted to transfer, he chose to stay and work for a spot.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

4 1/2 innings. Did not get a redshirt.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Changing his throwing pattern.  His first week he had arm tightening, they sent him to a doc who diagnosed him with a syndrome that can usually be treated with therapy.  He spent all fall working with the strength trainer, getting PT, and changing arm path.  He got to throw the last 2 weeks of Fall ball.  Was told in spring to go back to his old arm path, felt like he was starting over and didn't really feel comfortable in either path.  Rolled his ankle the last week in March and was out 4 weeks, never saw the field again.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Hard.  No in person classes, pretty isolating.  Huge rosters.  Very few opportunities. Went in as a top recruit in the country and for the school. Coach was hard mentally. Definite adjustment both for him and us to not see him playing. He questioned himself a lot.  Lost much of the confidence he had always had.  Made me wonder if he loved it anymore and prompted me to tell him again, that it was his life, and not to do anything based on perceived expectations.  It is very difficult to see your kid struggle with their confidence or see them unhappy when this has been such a major part of their life for so long.  I think most kids go through this their freshman year to some degree.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Control what you can control. Be an advocate for what you think your body needs in terms of training.  Go in strong and ready...a lot is decided in Fall ball. Realize it may be a work while you wait scenario (based on the school you choose).  We knew/he knew he was going into an extremely competitive environment (made much more so with covid), but we all thought he would have more opportunities than he had.  I think he would have had significant play time at some of the other schools that offered him, so you have to really weigh how you will feel not playing freshman year, if you have never had to do that.  We had a lot of freshmen that I have no doubt would be starters elsewhere who got almost no time. Prepare to be mentally tough...I think that is what the majority of the boys struggled with the most last year.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

Still there this year.  So far much happier.

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How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Son #2  10

Son #3 in 3rd year

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

Son #2  Mid Major D1 The Citadel

Son #3 P5 University of Tennessee

Both LHP's

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

Son #2 Yes

Son #3 so far.  Will lack 2 classes to graduate in May.  Would have had them but with run last year in playoffs did not take them.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

Son #2 Saturday Starter

Son #3 5.2 innings but was on track to get more.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Son #2 The Citadel  it was all a crazy experience.  He didn't have any clue what the military side would be like.

Son #3  Living on campus across from baseball field was a blessing.  Broke his ankle 2 weeks before Thanksgiving so had to spend the next four months doing recovery.  Pins and metal rods.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Son #2  he hated the school part but loved the baseball.  Not an ordinary experience for him or us.  Make sure your child knows what they are getting into with any military school.

Son #3  Great experience until the spring when Covid hit.  Were getting on bus to head to first SEC game when everything shut down.   The phone call about broke ankle was a nightmare.  Driving 3 hours wondering.  The overall experience was great.  Loved how the coaches and support staff made him take care of grades and how they took care of him when he got hurt.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Son #2  make sure the school is a fit.  Visit before you sign NLI   Son had never been on campus until 2 weeks before school started.

Son #3  Be ready for the competition.  It was harder than he thought to earn a spot.  So many guys competing for so few spots.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

Son #2 yes.

For as much sht that gets flipped towards @Francis7, kudos are in order for this thread.  As well as those responding.  Thus far, people are willing to show a more sensitive/vulnerable side of things.  That's not at all easy and I sincerely appreciate it.  This is absolutely stuff that few are comfortable letting out and certainly things that PG, PBR, and many others never want shared.

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? #1: 2017-18, #2: 2019-20

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? D3 x 2

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? #1 yes, and #2 expects to but had doubts all the way up to the flight back to school this fall.

If he switched schools, why did he switch? NA

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? #1 Started right away (OF);

#2 was 4th outfielder, several defensive innings, ended up with 1AB before Covid hit in 2020.  

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year? #1 balancing academic load w/baseball. #2 homesickness (it's NOT always sunny in Philadelphia and he felt out of place, as if he was the only chilled out surfer dude in SE PA), exhaustion from pre-med courses and 6am lifting sessions, disappointed but not shocked to not crack the starting lineup like his brother had.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? #1 surpassed for both of us. Started on a team that won conference and went to NCAA regionals

#2 miss/meets. Miss due, primarily, to COVID and discomfort socially. He chose his school because of its strong baseball program so wasn't completely surprised that he didn't crack starting lineup. Still disappointed though. Meets because he Is pencilled in as starting CF after a very strong fall. Thinks he would have been a starter in '21 but season completely cancelled.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? Player: go into freshman fall as strong and in shape as possible. Expect nothing. Remember who/what got you there.  Parent: Give them space but don't disappear. Don't stress on playing time. Not in your control (it never was). See as many games as you can.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? #1 has two years left but graduated and is working.  #2 has 3 years left but hopes to graduate after 2.

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My son’s situation is a little unique. Due to injury and surgery he received his offer the summer after senior year for the following year. He was told if he came to school immediately he could try to walk on without guarantees. He chose to try to walk on the first year. He lost out to a late bloomer pitcher now in the majors. He offered to be a bullpen catcher freshman year to start building his connection to the team. His redshirt freshman year he received baseball money.

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Freshman: ten years, Baseball: nine years

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

He had five years to play four. He left with a BA and MBA.

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

NA

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

As previously explained he knew going in his offer was for the following year. His first six appearances were as a pinch runner. He played in the first game. Stole a base off a former travel teammate and scored. By mid season he was starting against right handed pitching.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

His biggest surprise (due to my reaction) were his grades first semester. He learned he was actually going to have to work hard to get A’s. Once he started hitting the books it was how little free time he had between academics and baseball. Until college my son had mastered procrastination and falling out of trees while scoring a perfect ten when his feet hit the ground. He learned being a STEM major in college wasn’t going to be an easy ride.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

His freshman year he was warned he might not make it as a walk on. He had a lot of stress on him his redshirt freshman year. I nearly died (beat one in six survival odds) in late February. I was in the hospital and rehab until April. Once I came out of my coma I kept reassuring him I would be fine, don’t fly home, focus on school, baseball and I’ll make it to a series in May.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

My son made the same mistake I did. His additional mistake was not listening to my advice from experience. Don’t assume the academics will be easy. He was majoring in Economics/Quantitative Analytics aka Calculus. Don’t fall behind on reading assignments.

Everyone on the roster can play. Whether or not you win a position (and hold on to it) is likely to be more mental than physical.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

No. He played through a broken bone in his foot his redshirt junior year. He had surgery after the season. He found out early February of redshirt senior year he needed a second surgery. He could have applied for a medical redshirt since he wasn’t officially redshirted his freshman year. After five years, two degrees and an awesome job (from a summer internship) on the horizon he decided he had enough college. Plus, he didn’t want to be twenty-four hanging out with teens. Since he was rostered he was in the dugout for home games.

I had a softball playing daughter. The answers are ..

Fifteen years, D1, Yes, NA, Fourth outfielder played in two-thirds of games, no surprises or challenges as things were as she expected, get ahead of the academics/daughter was so scared of the unknown as a STEM major she got a 4.0 first semester, Yes

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@Francis7 posted:

Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions?

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player? 2019

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? JuCo/D1/D2

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? 2 schools

If he switched schools, why did he switch? Transfer after JuCo

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? Started 46 games at 3B

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year? Time management and playing thru an injury

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? He hit .381 in the middle of the order for a team that won a JuCo National Championship. His year exceeded his expectations and exceeded my wildest dreams.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? That has been well discussed. Show up ready to play.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?   No, he didn’t. An injury ended his playing career prematurely

@DanJ posted:

For as much sht that gets flipped towards @Francis7, kudos are in order for this thread.  As well as those responding.  Thus far, people are willing to show a more sensitive/vulnerable side of things.  That's not at all easy and I sincerely appreciate it.  This is absolutely stuff that few are comfortable letting out and certainly things that PG, PBR, and many others never want shared.

I just asked the question. All the credit should go to those answering. Much appreciated!

@Francis7 posted:

Anyone willing to answer some or all of the following questions? OK I'll "play"

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?  6 years ago

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?     D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? Stayed all 4 years

If he switched schools, why did he switch? n/a

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?   Starter from Game 1. Replaced 3 yr starter at 2nd base who became starting RF. RF had his best season and son and he remain good friends.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?  Players were BIG. Son also had more swing and a misses than he was accustomed. Big Test to start career at Texas A&M!  A really big challenge was not getting a hit until his 5th or 6th game. (started 1 for 21 or 1 for 23)). His coach hung with him. He was always a patient hitter, high OB%, who now had to swing at first pitch fastballs more.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? He knew going in that few would outwork him. His goal was to make the "travel squad" which he thought was a good possibility given his speed and versatility to play IF/OF. He played well in fall which carried over to his starting assignment. I honestly thought as a freshman (especially early on), son would PR or PH when a bunt was needed, or play as a sub in one-sided games. I thought if he played (and got on base) he would have his share of SBs.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent? Come in healthy and ready to go. If your son is a position player, it's important to play and get a # of ABs in summer prior. Get to know players of ALL classes not just your recruiting class. Don't underestimate the importance of fall games/intersquad games. Ask questions with players and coaches throughout to always better yourself.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? Yes. Drafted shortly after graduating from college. (Interesting that the number he was selected in draft was same number of his BA as a freshman)

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How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?            Fall 2019

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?                       D2 -> D1

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

No - Transferred after 4th semester. He’s attending 2nd school now.

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

Many reasons - it made more sense to change than stay.

The 1st school was very small and rural, and really academically more like a high school than a university.  About 750 total students and over 50% were athletes.

He plans to be an engineer, and had already taken most of their  math and science courses.  If he stayed, he would have to major in math, but not get many courses relevant to his grad school goals.  Admittedly, he/we knew when he enrolled the school had no engineering degrees and he already planned on grad school afterward, but he was really underwhelmed by the available classes which would prepare him for grad school. Our thought going in was to do the dual degree program with a nearby larger school, but that turned out to be impossible with demands of the baseball program.

On the baseball field, he felt like he was able to compete and do well at that level, but he wasn't getting a chance to show it.  He had several appearances first season, but the season was shortened to about 20 games due to Covid.  The team then brought in 13 Juco/Transfer pitchers before his 2nd season, and there weren't enough innings for everybody. Halfway through his second season, he still hadn't seen the field.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

Started off pretty well - he came in to the very first team game of his freshman career in the bottom of the eighth inning with his team losing by 1 run.  He threw a clean inning, and then his team scored 2 to walk it off and he got a win.  2nd game of the double-header, he came in trailing again, and did OK except for leaving a fastball middle-middle and watching it sail 400 feet.

So, after the first day of his college career, he led the team in Wins, Appearances, and Feet/Hits Allowed.

Finished the season with 7 appearances, but had a high ERA due to a couple rough outings in limited innings pitched, and was just really settling in when season was cancelled.


What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

Like everyone else, I think Covid really threw a big monkey wrench in his path.  The first season was cancelled when he was still getting better acclimated to everything, and then he actually caught the infection during fall of his second year.  He was forced to miss practices and scrimmages during a critical period of fall season, and for whatever reason he didn't perform very well in the chances he did get.  He lost the confidence of the head coach, and like everywhere else, they had plenty of other guys willing step up.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

I think he was reasonably satisfied after the freshman 2020 season, except for the whole cancellation halfway through thing. He felt like he was just getting into a groove and starting to establish his role with the team.  But things were a lot different the second season.  He felt like he never really was given the chance to get anything going.

He learned the value of hard work, and he did make some friendships which will last a lifetime. He also learned the negative consequences of missing his moments and falling out of grace with the coach.

As a parent, I was initially pleased as well. It was great to see him on the college field getting to do what he loved. It had been tough for us making the choice to go to this D2, because he had excellent high school academics and had been accepted into some very top-tier schools, but his dream was to keep playing ball.  We evaluated all the options together, but let him make the final decision.

We as a family have had both good and bad ramifications of these decisions, and we all learned many valuable lessons. I probably had my head in the sand a little on the academic situation, because he didn't complain too much the first few semesters.  He was making great grades, and I just assumed he was satisfied. As it turned out, that school was never going to be able to get him where he needed to be for the future.



Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

He's now in his junior year academically, and has 4 years of eligibility.  He is on track to get his first undergrad degree after next fall, and then will use another 2 or 3 semesters to finish up a 2nd undergrad degree in engineering.  At that point, he will still have a year or two of eligibility, and can then decide where to go for grad school.



Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and yours as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

He has worked exceptionally hard to get to this point, but has been fortunate to have help from many former coaches and mentors (including some folks on this board), and also has been blessed with more than his share of good favor from Amohalko and others in The Baseball Gods clubhouse.

Entering the Transfer Portal was a leap of faith, because he had to realize that when he entered the portal, he might have played his last college game. We knew the situation with the overloaded rosters, but he made the decision to believe in himself and take the chance.

He has been one of the few to actually go up a division and improve his lot by entering the portal.  I feel for the 2021s and 2022s, but the strange actions of the NCAA have actually benefited us.  He got the extra Covid year, and he took a “red-shirt” by not playing last season, and they suspended the sit-out rule to allow him to go D2–to-D1 without penalty.  Right now, things are looking good for the future.  He had a great fall with the new team, and everyone is excited about the coming spring season.

So, now the hard part - the advice...

Every kid and every path is different.  You can read and hear about a thousand other kids (and I have), but in the end, you have to do what makes sense for your kid and your family.

Baseball has been a huge part of his life ever since he first put on a glove.  He was also blessed to have a lot of choices of where to go for school, but it came down to the fact that he wasn't ready yet to quit on the game.  It's often easier to say "it's too hard" but I respect and admire him for sticking to his plan.  To quote some wise men, "The walls aren't there to keep you out, but only to see how badly you want in" RJM (with inspiration from Randy Pausch)  and "The hard is what makes it great" Jimmy Dugan.

There is a very fine and well-disguised line between “going where you will be happy even without baseball”, and “doing whatever it takes to keep playing.”  Take the time to fully investigate this question within the constraints of your family situation.

Learn as much as possible about every situation going in before committing to anything, and once you're there outwork everyone else and make every opportunity count.  But, always keep your eyes on the long-term goals, and if your current situation isn't getting you closer to those goals, have the courage to make a change.  I don't know for sure who first said this, but I think RJM had something to do with putting it into my brain as well: "You don't lose when you fall down - you lose when you choose to stay down in the mud hole."

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Ok. Doing this for HS:

How long ago was your son a HS freshman baseball player?
4 years ago  

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different HS  did he attend?  

No. Changed schools in January of his Junior year so 2 schools.

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

He was told he would not be allowed to play baseball his junior year because he did not play for his HS coach’s travel organization the previous summer. He was told that the only pathway back to playing on the HS team included him playing exclusively for his HS coach’s travel organization the upcoming summer (summer between junior and senior year). Playing for the other organization was key to his college recruitment (he committed to  Mississippi State fall of  his junior year) and continuing to play outside of his coach’s travel team was key to his continued development as a player.  Hardest part was leaving his basketball team which was ranked #8 in the nation when he left. He was fine leaving basketball behind because baseball was always his favorite but his basketball teammates and coaches were amazing.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?
He was on the JV team his freshman year and played every inning, primarily in RF. Loved the JV coach and played well.  His sophomore year he was on varsity. Sat at the very beginning of the year for playing basketball (basketball playoffs overlapped with one pre season baseball scrimmage). Then got some innings as DH but often had a pinch runner for him. Finally earned some innings in LF close to play offs. Switched HSs and started every inning for a nationally ranked team primarily in RF. He just finished his Rookie year in the minors for the Padres, started practically every inning in CF. Batted .372 and stole 10 bases with an OPS of 1.000. Was the Padres player of the year for the Arizona Complex league.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?
Biggest surprise is that some coaches are more wedded to their system of doing things than to fostering the unique talents of each player. And that sometimes, no matter what you do, you will never be a coach’s cup a tee so listen to the cues.  If you have a quiet son and the coach loves a team that yells and screams all game it might not be a good fit. If the starting outfielders are all tall and long and your son is compact (or vis-a-versa) it might not be a good fit. If the coach talks about the importance of tucking in your shirt and a clean locker and your kid has organizational issues, it might not be a good fit. We applied this to his college selection after learning this in HS.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Major “miss” at his first school but so many lessons were learned. And mind you, he still would have stayed if he had been able to play with a different organization in the summer because he loved the school. But he wanted to play HS baseball. Ever since his first HS, major “meets”expectations. So far each level has prepared him for the next and although his journey is not over, we feel as though he is mentally prepared for the challenges baseball brings him.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Work hard, stay true to yourself and drown out the noise (rankings, comparisons, etc). Your journey is uniquely yours so learn what you can from other people’s experiences but do not be afraid to forge your own path.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?
N/A  currently chasing his professional dream and no longer has college eligibility

@Francis7 posted:
How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?   2019

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?   D3

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?  If he switched schools, why did he switch?  N/A  

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?   He was playing regularly until covid cancelled the season.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?   Having to manage his life (losing wallet, breaking phone, getting sick, figuring out meal schedules, etc.) in addition to his classes and baseball.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?   From my point of view, it seemed to be going great for him, and having it cut short due to covid was devastating.  For my expectations - I had read a lot on this site, and wasn't sure what to expect, except that he better show up in good shape. He got mono the summer before and barely played, couldn't do the workouts for much of the summer, I was worried that  would cause him problems in the fall.  But apparently he worked hard and made it up.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?    There's plenty of good advice about players; something I read on here once, figure out which upperclassmen on the team are good role models and follow their lead.  About parents, be prepared for crises that you don't expect, figure out how to identify your son on grainy video broadcasts (that's what D3 has) so you know what he's doing during games.

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

What a great thread.  Thanks, Francis7.

@PTWood posted:

Ok. Doing this for HS:

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?
Biggest surprise is that some coaches are more wedded to their system of doing things than to fostering the unique talents of each player. And that sometimes, no matter what you do, you will never be a coach’s cup a tee so listen to the cues.  If you have a quiet son and the coach loves a team that yells and screams all game it might not be a good fit. If the starting outfielders are all tall and long and your son is compact (or vis-a-versa) it might not be a good fit. If the coach talks about the importance of tucking in your shirt and a clean locker and your kid has organizational issues, it might not be a good fit. We applied this to his college selection after learning this in HS.



@PTWood - Excellent, excellent point.  Well said.  Folks currently in the recruiting process and rising college freshmen pay very close attention to these words.   This is gold!   

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Boy, you HSBBW people are gold.  I love HSBBW and appreciated it the moment I first got here, but this thread is resonating with me more than most.  For those who have read through all the responses, does anyone else find it truly exceptional (if not impossible) that people aren't using these questions as a means to brag about their kids?  Even the more successful stories show humility and sincere gratefulness. That is NOT normal, people.  It's the Bizarro world equivalent of Twitter.  The candid nature of some of this stuff belongs in books while Twitter posts belong in the garbage can.  I should say it more often, but thank you all sincerely.  #stupidfortunate

@PTWood posted:
What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?


If the starting outfielders are all tall and long and your son is compact (or vis-a-versa) it might not be a good fit.

If the coach talks about the importance of tucking in your shirt and a clean locker and your kid has organizational issues, it might not be a good fit. ?



Good stuff here PT. My son's college position coach is considered one of the top in his field (well followed twitter account, regularly spoke at NCAA Coaches conventions). Team nearly broke NCAA fielding % record one year (tied, error in LF in last or second to last game). My son is about 5'10 1/2" and was taller than or same height as position coach. The coach is currently the instructional infield coach for an MLB team.

As for tucking in the shirt- manager was old school and son didn't have a problem. After all son wore a tie to class every day. (Wore one every day in HS, and excelled academically --figured why change?) Coach joked, "you can wear a tie in infield if you hit!" Son told me that no girl that he met objected to his classroom attire.

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?

Last season/Spring 2021

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else?

JUCO

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend?

He will graduate this year and then move on to a 4 year

If he switched schools, why did he switch?

NA

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it?

Made 16 appearances out of the bullpen

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?

The level of competition was much higher than either of us expected.  For those going JUCO, go watch some games of the schools you are looking into.   

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent?

Exceeded both of our expectations.  Team made to the World Series and made a deep run.  One of the best experiences I've had as a baseball parent and the best he has had as a player. 

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?

Do your research.  Some teams prefer fast lefty hitters, some prefer power lefty bats, some like to bunt, etc.  I know a lot of kids who didn't make it because it was a bad fit from the start.  For the parent and player I'd say be patient.  For the player I'd say get as big and strong as possible before you get to campus and keep getting big and strong. 

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why?

NA

@DanJ posted:

Boy, you HSBBW people are gold.  I love HSBBW and appreciated it the moment I first got here, but this thread is resonating with me more than most.  For those who have read through all the responses, does anyone else find it truly exceptional (if not impossible) that people aren't using these questions as a means to brag about their kids?  Even the more successful stories show humility and sincere gratefulness. That is NOT normal, people.  It's the Bizarro world equivalent of Twitter.  The candid nature of some of this stuff belongs in books while Twitter posts belong in the garbage can.  I should say it more often, but thank you all sincerely.  #stupidfortunate

You just explained it!

This thread is gold. Information you cannot get anywhere else.

@Francis7 posted:

How long ago was your son a college freshman baseball player?  8 yrs ago

What level was he playing? Juco, D3, D2 or D1? Something else? JC, then D2, NAIA

Did he stay at that school through graduation? If not, how many different colleges did he attend? No. 4!

If he switched schools, why did he switch? First it was Injury, then graduated from JC and went on to D2, killed it in the Fall, climbed depth chart to earn regular playing time in the Spring, then at some point, kept hitting it hard but right at guys for too long.  First year coach rightfully had to go another direction after that season, so transferred again and had a great year at his final school.

How much did your son play as a freshman? If he did not play, was he redshirted? If he was redshirted, when was he told about it? Injury late Fall - out for the yr, told by ortho he'd likely not be able to hit again, so tried coming back as a P at another JC the following yr.  He ended up as a position player again for his "second" freshman year, worked his way into playing time second half of the season after a starter screwed up.  Ended up all conference as a soph and went on to the D2.

What were the biggest surprises and challenges for your son freshman year?  He learned that most college coaches want your school schedule to be about fitting the baseball program, not your academic aspirations.  He learned that most college programs rely far more on players being able to step in and contribute than they do via any further development.  But the biggest surprise came with the injury when, suddenly, it looked like he would never play again.

Overall, how was your son's experience as a freshman baseball player? Did it meet, surpass or miss his expectations? How about in regard to your expectations as a parent? Overall good experience.  As with most college athletes, the first year is an advanced class on how to live on your own and hyper multi-task.  Beyond what I said above, he probably expected that more things would be funded.  Many public schools have this challenge.

Based on your son's experience as a freshman baseball player and your's as the parent, what advice would you have for the freshman player and his parent?  Take care of school.  If you win the job on Monday, the slate is cleared on Tuesday and you have to win it all over again.  Embrace that mentality.  Regarding baseball, before you step on campus, remember and clarify in words to yourself why you love playing and competing.  There will be times when it will be very helpful to replay those words to yourself as reminder

Did your son complete 4 years of college baseball eligibility? If not, why? Yes

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