Youth team kicked out of the league!

Big,

That is pretty incredible.

What a terrible lesson for the kids.

Regards

And the moral here:

If you can't beat'em, kick them out of the league.

We're raising a nation of wussies!

It happens

A year or two we tried to get into a tournament and we were turned down--reason--- very simple --the tournament director told us no because they couldnt take a chance of the one of the local teams not winning

DUH !!!!!!!!

There you go. Thats where we are heading in this country. Instead of saying "Wow those guys are good. Lets go talk to them and see what they have been doing to get to that point. Lets use them as a model of what we want all our teams to be. Our guys need to see that this is where they should strive to be. No we will just kick them out of the league because they are just too good for us. What a joke. What they should do is kick all the other teams out of the league and go find some coaches and players that want to play real baseball. It reminds me of my sons 9-10 team when they were not allowed to play up with the 11-12 teams one year. They were beating everyone really bad. The coach asked to be moved up to the 11-12 but the coaches said it would not be fair to the 9-10 team to have to play 11-12. Finally they got a Saturday scrimmage against the 11-12 first place team and waxed them in a DH. What did they do. Told them they could not play up and told them they would have to redraft the team next year because they were too good. The coach had worked with those kids for three years and actually coached them and had four practices a week before the season started and actually had practices during the season. Can you believe that. Stuff like this makes me sick. Why is it so wrong to want to excell above everyone else? Why is it wrong to want to be better than everyone else at something you love to do? Why cant some people either step up and compete or get the hell out of the way? AHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH

Coach May,

My guess is - most likely - the adults involved can't deal with watching their kids getting theirs as*** kicked.

Simple as that IMO.

Remember years a go when my son was 11 or 12 the coaches entered the team in a couple of tournaments. they practiced and practiced. the got knocked out of the first tournament. I drove my son up to the practice to get ready for the next tournament and they were collecting the uniforms. I asked why and the response was they thought they would be outmatched. That was over 10 years ago so nothing new.

There will always be coaches, leagues, schools, etc. with two different trains of thought. Play the best and give your best while improving or play the worst and have the trophys and win/loss record to brag about. IMO if you don't do the first, the second means nothing. True competitors would love to have this team in their league - work hard and maybe actually beat them one day!?!?!?!?!

I agree with most but I also can see a situation where the team is SOOOO much better than everyone else that no one learns anything.

Surely some of you have been in that situation.

Last year we had a home and home JV/Varsity game scheduled with another team. Well, things got confused and their Varsity showed up to play our JV and our Varsity showed up to play their JV. To make matters worse, one school was class 2A the other class 4A. So, even if the match ups were right, the outcomes were pretty much predetermined. But, those outcomes were still worth playing to learn from.

Quite a different story though with the JV's playing the varsity. Since everyone had already made the trip they played anyway. A total waste of time for a class 2A JV to play a class 4A varsity. Not only a waste of time but dangerous.

WNC Fall Baseball does something like this, but there is a reason.

ANYONE in the county can come an sign up to play, between the ages of 4-7, 8-10, 11-12, coaches draft from this pool of players who show up.

IF you are OUTSIDE the county you can bring in a team, but not a team of all-stars, and are told upfront if you end up dominating, you can still play, but will not be included in the standings.

Most of the kids playing Fall Ball are playing because they really enjoy the game, have some talent, don't want to play so**er etc.

In the youngest division we rarely get an out of county team, 8-10 yr olds, maybe 2 or 3 of 12-14 teams are ajoining counties, 11-12, there may be 4 of 12+ teams. (some teams travel 2 hours to play here)

We found if you are a 11-12 year old team, that is just beating the heck out of everyone, YOUR kids are not getting better. WHY? You don't get to see any pitching. I don't use my best, or even 3rd best pitcher. Subs start, kids get to try different positions. Every coach feels the same way, and all you get are really just scrimmage games.

If a coach had drafted these kids, that anyone else could have, that would be different.

The original post does not detail how the winning team was treating the game. Were they snickering about botched plays, stealing bases at will? While I am a firm believer that unless you play the best you won't get any better, I've seen teams led by over zealous coaches that make a mockery of the game at the expense of the kids they are beating up on.

This is advertized as a rec league.

To the coaches out there. Would you put your team in a league that would win games by that margin?

I don't understand. Normally in rec ball all the managers for the different divisions get together and hold try-outs to evaluate the players so they all have an equal chance at selecting the good players. Am I to understand that the managers were so inept at evaluating skills that they let this one coach pick all the studs? Or maybe the league board didn't do their homework and allowed a coach to bring in a team of ringers. If could have brought my son's travel team into a rec program we would have had similar results but it wouldn't been vary fun for the travel players.
Somebody didn't do their job. Sounds like a local high school here, coaches with no evalution skills, don't know squat about baseball and lets daddyball run the show.

I do remember the year when one of my kids played on an all-13-year-old team in a 13-15 league. The coaches in the league didn't want to disburse the 14- and 15-year-olds before the season, but they expanded the total number of teams before the season.

Everybody thought it was going to be ugly ... and it was. The all-13 team went undefeated and gave up fewer than 10 runs in a 20-game season, often winning by double digits. As it worked out, they let the coach of the expansion team (league went from 5 to 6 teams) pick the first five players. He took the best five kids from the previous year's LL tournament team. By the time it was over, 9 of the team's 12 players played in the LL tournament the year before, and eight of the 12 came from two LL teams (the two division winners from the previous year).

They re-disbursed the players the next season.

The first place team in our PONY league returned 6 kids who had played on the PONY 13 team the previous season. They also managed to lock up the winning pitcher from the LLWS US championship. The way the draft was set up they were able to draft a 14yo all-star coming over from another league and another strong 13yo. A couple weeks into the season the league's best 13yo decided to play and they got him.

One team with superior pitching was able to hang with them. Other than that almost all mercies.

I could have picked first in the draft until I filled my team and not come close to being as strong as that team as almost all of the 14yo were already on teams and some of the best 13yo were already locked up as coach picks.

The point of playing is competition. It makes no sense to have a team in any league which is either so much better or so much worse than the other teams that their games are not competitive. That's why we have all the divisions we use - age divisions, major/minor divisions, 3A, 4a school divisions, etc. We've all seen hideously mismatched teams play - there's little benefit to anyone in those games. Somebody screwed up to allow the mismatch to be as bad as it was in that rec league. Telling the team to find a different league or venue to play in was doing them a favor.

my 3 cents-
pdog is right on here
the lesson that "arrogant wannabe" coach is teaching his players is - -
"if you seek out the weakest competition you'll appear to be better"

duh - there are enough levels of play in youth baseball today, that a serious all star team does not belong in a community rec league

it's sad that parents would buy into that coach's ignorance, and it's also sad his players think they're being cheated out of an opportunity to win that league - when it's really their coach who's cheating them out of an opportunity to develope playing better competion

there is great travel comp in that part of the state - so I can only conclude he's afraid of a good whoopin' when the tables were turned on him outside of rec league play

I can see having the team be asked to leave for unsportsmanlike conduct but not just because they are good. A good friend of mine had to deal with a similar issue, he simply suggested that the coach would be better off playing in another league so his team would be able to learn and grow. Didn't kick them out of the league, it turned out well the coach had kids that would have never pitched do so. My friend was very glad the coach was as interested in his players character as he was their playing ability.