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Zito's new delivery met with anxiety
The Giants' pitching coach expresses concern that the ace's curveball will be lost.
By Nick Peters - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:14 am PST Friday, February 16, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C3
Giants left-hander Barry Zito, who turned a devastating breaking ball into the richest contract signed by a pitcher, threw his new club a curve his first day on the mound.
With pitching coach Dave Righetti watching intently at Scottsdale Stadium on Thursday morning, Zito's initial bullpen session was full of surprises. Unlike his introductory teleconference in December, when he mused about abandoning his vaunted curveball, this time he wasn't kidding.
Instead, he went to the mound armed with a tape measure to mark his stride and proceeded to demonstrate a new delivery to better utilize his legs, add power to his pitches and create a more fluid motion.
"I'm just trying to take my weight down the mound a little bit more, use my legs a little bit more," said Zito, 28, who signed a seven-year, $126 million contract.
"I wasn't using my legs the last couple of years. I'm just taking a step back to create momentum from the beginning of the delivery. Before I used to stop and then go and try to create momentum really from nothing."
Zito said he merely was reutilizing a delivery from earlier in his A's career, which included a 102-63 record, 222 consecutive starts and a Cy Young Award. It includes a wider stance, bent legs, a slight bounce and a step backward.
Whereas manager Bruce Bochy was diplomatic, Righetti didn't seem convinced tampering with success was such a good idea. He obviously was taken aback and didn't rule out talking the new staff ace out of the notion.
In phone conversations with Zito, Righetti was told the new Giant was tinkering with a new approach. Still, he wasn't prepared for the drastic adjustment he saw and candidly discussed it with reporters following the workout.
"It's going to wear him down. He's going to overstride -- it's going to be tough on him," Righetti said. "He's gone from one extreme to another from a pitching standpoint. His ball flight is going to be different, no doubt about it.
"To me, it'll be about making his pitches. If he loses the curveball -- which he could because he'll be throwing from a different angle now -- we'll see how sore his groin is tomorrow. But he's a good athlete and he got himself in shape for it."
Asked if he was worried, Righetti said: "Yeah. He called me during the winter and said he was going to do a little something different. He was right."
Bochy, saying there was "a good chance" Zito would be the Opening Day starter April 3, confirmed the surprise element of the pitcher's workout. Asked when he knew about the delivery change, the manager dryly said: "The first pitch he threw."
He also took a wait-and-see approach, adding: "I don't see this being an issue. Barry has been working on it this winter. He's got his reasons. We all do whatever we can to improve ourselves and get better.
"Tiger Woods keeps winning tournaments and he alters his swing."
On the same day Zito's debut created a stir,the Giants announced Barry Bonds' contract had been finalized. So was the pitcher's record deal; it became official without any commotion.
That was reserved for his mound work. As Righetti said, "It's very rare that you see this. He's been successful. He must have felt pretty strongly about it. ... He obviously put a lot of thought into it.
"All pitchers feel the same way. They're looking for more freedom and ways to relax on the mound. Guys who are creative kind of need to do something. They're always finicky. They're always looking for something. But most guys will only think about it."
Not, apparently, Barry Zito.
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Originally posted by FrankF:
He supposedly worked on this "new" (pump and drive) delivery with Dick Mills for the past month or so!


Well, I've got to say that the new mechanics described in this article sound exactly like what Tom House is teaching these days:

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Zito becomes a new pitcher
Pricey lefty retools his delivery, and Giants are a bit uneasy
Henry Schulman, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, February 15, 2007


(02-15) 14:14 PST Scottsdale, Ariz. -- Imagine Michelangelo arriving for his new job at the Sistine Chapel and announcing he was going to paint still lifes, or chef Emeril Lagasse swearing off garlic, or Tiger Woods winning The Masters by 12 strokes and declaring he had to overhaul his messed-up swing.

Actually, Woods did that in 1997, and now Barry Zito wants to try something equally radical. He plans a significant change to the delivery that made him a Cy Young winner in 2002, led to a 102-63 major-league record and earned him a seven-year, $126 million contract with the Giants.

Zito phoned pitching coach Dave Righetti this winter to say he wanted to tinker with his windup, and Righetti told manager Bruce Bochy, but after Zito showcased the new delivery during his first bullpen session as a Giant on Thursday, Righetti expressed surprise at how different it looked - and some trepidation.

"I looked at his tapes from Oakland, so that was a waste of time," Righetti said half-jokingly after Zito's new delivery added some spice to the team's first workout. While clearly a bit nervous about Zito's windup going from "one extreme to the other," Righetti expressed support and a willingness to let Zito try a change that the left-hander believes will make him better.

"If he feels like it's going to be successful for him, he knows what he's been doing the last six, seven years, and all through high school and college," Righetti said. "At some point you have to trust him. We'll work off of that."

Zito said he was "adamant" about the change, which he began working on a few months ago.

In Oakland, Zito had a very controlled, upright delivery. When he threw Thursday, he started with a little crouch, as if leaning on the back of a chair. As he turned to begin his windup he reared backward, the most radical change. Then, he took a longer stride toward the plate.

The idea is to generate more thrust with his legs and less with his arm, which not only should preserve the arm and allow him to throw more innings, but also create later and more powerful movement on his pitches, including the fastball and curveball.

"I just felt constricted, really, the last few years, like I was throwing all arm," Zito said, "so it's about using the core of your body, the center of your mass, instead of your arm."

Zito has changed his workout regimen this winter to strengthen his legs and hips, so the new delivery goes hand-in-hand. Actually, he called it an old delivery he used in college.

He expressed no concern about trying to fix what many would say was not broken, at the start of a new job that includes a very high salary.

"I'm always trying to get better," Zito said. "I don't think you should ever stop trying to get better. I haven't been as good as I want to be, and I don't think I ever will be. You've just got to go with it and work on it. Tiger changed his swing a couple of times and he was at the top of his game. If he can pull it off and have the (guts) to do that, I think anyone can."

Manager Bruce Bochy said he could not recall a pitcher that successful attempting such a dramatic change without an injury involved. Zito was not entirely clear on why he chose to change his delivery now. Asked if he had broached the idea with his coaches in Oakland, and was told not to do it, Zito said no, "because any pitching coach will agree with me that if you get your weight down the mound more and use less arm and more body, that's what it's all about."

Zito's new pitching coach has his fears, though, whether Zito can keep the proper balance on the mound now that he's stepping back, if the longer stride will wear on his legs and, most important, how it will affect his pitches.

"It's going to change the flight of his ball," Righetti said, suggesting Zito could lose his signature curveball. That is why Righetti said "yes" when asked if this was worrisome and "I don't know" when asked if he might try to talk Zito out of it - something Righetti would not do until he sees how well Zito progresses over the next few weeks.

When Zito was asked if he would consider reverting to his Oakland delivery if the experiment goes awry, he said, "I can always do that if I have to, because that's ingrained. Right now I'm just seeing where I'm at. I've been pretty adamant about this for the last month, month and a half. I'll play with it and see what happens."

E-mail Henry Schulman at hschulman@sfchronicle.com.

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Originally posted by FrankF:
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I'm in the Bruce Bochey eye-ball rolling camp, though, especially when some tries to fix something that is so not broken.


That's the same thing everyone told Tiger even though he was winning tourneys. Apparently he thinks he can be better this new way. Again, time will tell.


I am so conservative in my old age. I've seen athletes push envelopes and just poke holes in them. I certainly wish him well and merely enjoy watching his rainbow Zach Duke curveball Smile, as it is.
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Originally posted by FrankF:
No, but from what I've heard, he has been working with Mills on this. Maybe Mills stole it from House.


Personally, if it was my $126M, I’d be really PO’d about him changing squat until my coaches had the chance to talk to him and see how he fared with his ‘old’ style, which is what the paid the $126M for.

I have a very cynical side to me that says, Zito wasn’t sure his old style as going to continue to be successful in a new environment, so he’s doing what any intelligent person does. He’s covering his buns and created a built in excuse for failure.

If it works well, what will it be saying about all those great ML pitching minds who couldn’t see it for themselves.
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I have a very cynical side to me that says, Zito wasn’t sure his old style as going to continue to be successful in a new environment, so he’s doing what any intelligent person does. He’s covering his buns and created a built in excuse for failure.


This may be what people who expect to lose would do, but I doubt that is the case here. Zito is a competitor, and he's just trying to get an edge. There can be little tolerance in the big league perspective for negative thought.
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Originally posted by spizzlepop:
This may be what people who expect to lose would do, but I doubt that is the case here. Zito is a competitor, and he's just trying to get an edge. There can be little tolerance in the big league perspective for negative thought.


This isn’t directed to you personally, but more in a general way, so please don’t take offense.

Of course Zito’s a competitor. Every player who’s ever signed a pro contract is a competitor! You don’t get to the top level in any endeavor by being a whuss and not be willing to stand toe to toe with anyone.

And of course he’s lookin’ for an edge. Every player does that, or they’re soon relegated to the taxi squad!

You don’t think he’s just doing a CYA tapdance, but I do! You think there’s little tolerance for thinking negative thoughts in the big leagues, but I know those thoughts have to be there, to at least some degree!

Baseball is a game based almost completely on failure, and if those who play can’t come to grips with that, its unlikely they’ll last very long, and that happens even at the kiddyball level. Failure is a fact that has to be accepted, but the effort to continue to try is what’s necessary.

Maybe I’m way off base, and maybe I’m not. Even if what observer44 posts is true and he goes back to his “normal” style, the fact is, by pulling this little stunt, he now has a built in excuse for unprecedented failure.

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