Tagged With "Trevor Bauer"
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
I would vote for Bauer as Pitcher of the Year. He's been unbelievable. I still think Cole will go first and I would pick him first. It very well could be that Bauer will end up with a better career. I base it on this... If both pitchers are at their very best, Gerritt Cole as as good as anyone who has ever lived. I have seen that and so have many others. I've also seen him not so good and have seen hitters hit him that shouldn't have a prayer. To me it's all about who has the highest...
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
PG - totally respect your opinion and it is what makes this site the greatest. I can see where Cole has the most tools and "potentially" the biggest upside. I was never quite sure Matt Harvey dominated in college like the hype surrounding him said he ought to but he is unhittable right now in the pros. The very same thing may be true of Cole after he becomes a multimillionaire in a few weeks. I get where guys get paid for tools and then we see out of that pool who the best players are.
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
Well, since the Friday night analysis was mine, I'll attempt to respond. I like both kids; they have electric stuff, and they'll be pitching in the Show in the very near future. Who is the better pitcher on the 2011 Bruins staff? Hands down, Trevor Bauer. But we all know that the executives in the professional ranks are projecting who is going to help them in the next two, five, ten years? I still stand by my original "Friday" statement...especially as it pertains to weaker offenses. The...
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
FWIW, I was questioning this statement, his performance not translating into a possibly first round pick. It's apparent that Bauer is RIGHT now the better college pitcher. I don't think that anyone is arguing that point. PG statement that pro ball is NOT about what is happening now against college hitters is right on. So are the statements about added pressure. I thank him for explaining how that works, why the hype about Gerrit Cole. Remove the excuses here about why he hasn't gotten it...
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
Ok. Let's see Cole, Hultzen, Bauer. The guy with the worst stats, couldn't get the job done, poor performance (according to the OP) gets the first pick! And I didn't even see 2 of them pitch...duh. Guess that some think that this "Big RedBird's Momma" is stupid as scouting reports as well. igball, what bothers you the MOST, that I am a MOM? BTW, you need to take a course in that scouting 2.0.
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
With one guy going 1st and one going third, everyone in this thread can basically say they were right as there is not much difference between the first and third overall pick. My reason for bringing up Greg Maddux was not to say that Bauer reminds me of Maddux. My point was as good as Maddux's tools were, I doubt they were scored as highly as Gerrit Cole. If you think one guy is Greg Maddux however, I don't really care what the tools equation is, I want Greg Maddux. The MLB network did a...
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Re: All Hype-Where is the performance?
Cole is a bit cocky. So is Bauer. Frankly, athletes have to have so much self belief to succeed a bit of arrogance would not be uncommon. I have seen both, Cole more than Bauer but congrats to both... They are both fantastic.
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Re: High School All-Area
Northwest Hugh School 2011 baseball all-area roster Player School Pos. Yr. Ricky Alfonso Barrington OF Sr. Brian Bauer Prospect 1B Sr. Kurt Becker Palatine 3B-P Jr. Joe Belmonte Conant C Sr. Luke Bergman Prospect SS Sr. Cody Bobbit Palatine SS Sr. Peter Bonahoom Prospect OF Sr. Cosimo Cannella St. Viator 1B Jr. Jack Czeszewski Elk Grove OF Jr. Kurt Donner Prospect C-P Sr. Mike Farias Maine West C Sr. Dan Guido Elk Grove P Jr. Ryan Hayes Schaumburg P-OF Sr. Dan Haze Palatine OF Sr. Matt...
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Re: Baseball history in jeopardy?
So players from the 60's to the 90's weren't as concerned about their batting averages as players from previous eras? If Nolan Ryan had pitched in previous decades with his same stuff during his career his strikeout total would have been one record that no one would ever sniff at. Even Jack Bauer would have been in awe. No disrespect DOD but I think someone fed you a line. BTW, If his strikeout total is inflated what happened to EVERY OTHER pitcher. Clemens and Johnson are still a 1000 behind.
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Re: This makes for great discussion
In the argument of whose a better hitter between Mantle and Manny (since it's ridiculous to even compare them as overall players) It cannot be stressed enough that the 50's and 60's were much less of hitting era's with the 60's being the poorest hitting conditions since the deadball era of the teens. Mantle played his home games in a huge old Yankee stadium that was death on righthanded power hitters. Manny played his whole career up to the last year and a half in home ballparks very...
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Re: Long toss vs. actual pitching velocity
Not really sure I want to get caught in a TPM v. GBM peeing contest, but here goes. :-) According to Prof. Adair in The Physics of Baseball a baseball released at 90 mph, at an optimum angle of 35-40 degrees, will travel a little over 300 feet. Logically, most people who throw mid 90's should be able to throw well over 300 feet, though an adjustment to release paint will be necessary. Just because a pitcher with a 95 mph arm doesn't throw 300 feet doesn't mean he can't. Many college and MLB...
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Re: Long toss vs. actual pitching velocity
My son's pitching instructor wasn't able to long toss 300'. I believe he's capable of doing so during the season but at that point in time he wasn't able to. He's got a low 3/4 arm slot which tends to reduce long toss distance. I understand that he tops out at about 93 mph off the mound and that he had an ERA around 2.5 this season in AAA. There are some pitchers who just don't long toss far relative to their pitching velocity for whatever reason. TPM, I've seen plenty of pitchers who threw...
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Re: Question about "projection"
Coach May will pop in here if he sees this with his numbers (and next time I am going to copy it and save it) but he had kids enter HS at 74 and exit at 94, some come in at 80 and leave at 83. (I am guessing but these should be close) The point is that it is not where you enter but where you exit HS that matters. My son’s pitching coach had one kid at 85 when he was 14, and he also coached Bauer who was a heck of a lot less at that age. Both are now in the minors. If my son was 85 at 14 then...
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Re: Long Toss Debate Reaches Wall Street Journal
Initech- I'm glad you shared this link. I have been working with Alan directly gathering information from this year's top 30 pitching prospects according to Baseball America about their long toss habits and beliefs. The results thus far from the players have been outstanding. Not only are almost all of them advocates of long toss, but they're all very interested in learning more about the process and trying to spread the word about it's benefits. Trevor Bauer, who is featured in the article,...
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Re: Long Toss Debate Reaches Wall Street Journal
Hey EdgarFan- Good question. Alan would be the first person to tell you that long toss is not the absolute most beneficial aspect of a pitcher's success and increased velocity. Mechanics are, by far, the #1 factor in this. Translating that into a long toss session, remaining mechanically sound throughout throwing is crucial in developing greater arm strength in a healthy manner. Alan considers himself to be a spiritual person, and he is very interested in making sure that the mind and the...
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Re: Long Toss Debate Reaches Wall Street Journal
Thanks to the OP for posting the article link and thank goodness it's not behind a paywall. As the father of a young (8th grade) P/3B/OF, I am very interested in the conversation on training arms. And I admit I am in the bag for Bundy and Bauer and find them and their training fascinating. But while I see my son throwing longer, more consistently as he gets older, I am also intrigued by the position taken by the anti-tossers, like Dick Mills. He has some thoughts that are worth integrating.
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Re: CWS Comments
I think you need to be a little more balanced than Arkansas this year or say UCLA with Bauer and Cole. South Carolina may also have a balance problem as it seems like you can pitch around their lineup (fewer tough spots in their lineup) this year so it might be tough for them to 3-peat.
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Re: Increase Velocity
Must be why when tricep nerve blocks were put in place, velocity went down 20% in research studies. Yeah, the arm contributes nothing to velocity. I can give you anecdotes of guys at our facility going from 77 to 90 in 5 months with the help of weighted balls or the work that Ron Wolforth has done (Trevor Bauer ring a bell?), but you obviously aren't interested in hearing it. That you son reached highly competitive velocities without the aid of weighted balls is interesting but ultimately...
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Re: O's bring up Bundy
After watching the game last night it's going to be very interesting to see how Trevor Bauer progresses over the next couple of years. YGD
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Re: Trevor Bauer
Trevor Bauer is really good.He is quirky and different in a lot of ways.He has really good stuff.My own player was in the same conference and felt he was the best pitcher in the pac ten becuase of his "stuff".
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Re: Trevor Bauer
He will be interesting to watch.The one thing about him is he is very smart.Went to college at UCLA early.He is smaller for a pitcher,and many believe he may not have the stamina,but scouts werent sure about Timmy L.either.I like the way Bauer handles pressure.Ive seen him pitch several times, and watched during playoffs,and world series. When it comes to players making it in the MLB, so hard to predict.But I will enjoy following his career.
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Re: Trevor Bauer
A few thoughts: 1.) Arizona trading for a top flight starter like Trevor Cahill does not help Bauer getting to MLB, 2.) Arizona apparently not having Joe Saunders on the 40 man does. 3.) From a business perspective, it seems highly unlikely he gets to MLB any time before late May/early June. 4.) Having watched Lincecum in college(once) and many times at AT&T, and watching Bauer last Spring at Stanford, it is pretty hard for a fan educated eye to see all that much difference when they...
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Re: Questions About "Hands" Cues In Hitting Instruction and General Discussion of Hitting
How do the hands add power to the swing? Please use plain English as we have all been doing so far. How do you know he says that? In what context? What do others say? I'm not here to take a side, I'm here to learn. I don't hate any of them. I have watched some video from most of them and I am smart enough to know they aren't giving away the store for free and a month in this "system" or that is not going to change things to any decent degree. This is a long and arduous process with no easy...
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Re: Questions About "Hands" Cues In Hitting Instruction and General Discussion of Hitting
How do the hands add power? The contribution of the hands, wrists, and forearms is mainly direction. Most power comes from the legs and rear hip. As I said earlier in this post, the hands, wrists, and forearms provide bat direction. If you actively use them, they can help in squaring up the ball. Tip n' Rip is not a universal panacea. I recognize that. There are players (and I know a few) who have big lower body issues and considerable "connection" issues (using the term that you're familiar...
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Re: 17 year old pitching mechanics analysis
SultanofSwat- Could you please clarify? CabbageDad- Yes, i do pronate excessively on purpose, I make sure not to do it until after ball release though. By pronating my elbow and its' joint lock back into place as opposed to supinating, where they extend out. Bum- thanks for the advice. Nice quote Lefthookdad- yes i do this on purpose as well. i am a small guy so I have to emulate other small high- velocity throwers. If you look at Lincecum, Trevor Bauer, or Marcus Stroman, they all do the...
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Re: Ten Week Weighted Ball Program
Originally Posted by 548: It would be interesting to see updated results after a year on one of these programs. Do these athletes continue to show increasing velocity and sustained arm health after a year or more on the program? Yes, they do - so long as they stay on the program. Like a diet or an exercise program to lose weight, going on/off and not being dedicated won't help the results. I estimate we'll have at least two pitchers in the big leagues this year who have used some variant of...
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Re: Effect of Three Different Between-Inning Recovery Methods on Pitching Performance
It looks interesting. EMS is Electronic Muscle Stimulation. UCLA baseball is now using it in conjunction with the medical school. I got a picture from the UCLA dugout last season with them working on Trevor Bauer between innings. I guess the secret to his success is now out
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Re: Ten Week Weighted Ball Program
My apologies to everyone in the thread. What I am going to do is write a lengthy post that hits on some points rather than arguing with the ad hominems and non sequitors that Coach Mills is bringing forth. I am not big on social proof, but most people want to know that you have skin in the game before they listen to you. Logically this doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense, but it's good testimony, I suppose. So, some of my clients include Trevor Bauer, UCLA Golden Spikes winner and third...
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Re: Majors In College
Checked my alma mater. I went through about 2/3 of the lineup and found 0 engineering majors. I'd be shocked if there was even one. Some coaches will not recruit players they think will insist on being an engineering major. UCLA recruited Bauer despite his being an engineering major but he's had to back off and go with math or physics instead for now because of the demands of an engineering education vs baseball. Still pretty tough.
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Re: Mechanics/Athleticism
Why does it have to be either/or? Look at Trevor Bauer. He wasn't as athletic as some and developed great flexibility, etc. He also developed his mechanics (non-cookie cutter). One can only throw so much and that leaves plenty of time for working on athleticism. I would caution about overdoing it with young players especially during the growth spurt. Some players are at risk of developing stress fractures in the back during this period and there's no way of knowing in advance which ones. It...
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Re: Summer ball
O'Fallon wins National High School Baseball title Panthers shut out Louisville's Male High 6-0 BY NORM SANDERS News-Democrat In what he says is becoming more than a statewide trend, O'Fallon High baseball coach Jason Portz and his staff are keeping his Panthers together on teams throughout the summer. The Panthers' varsity team, one of three O'Fallon clubs competing in the Southwest Baseball League, capped off a 6-0 run Sunday by winning the National High School Baseball Tournament in...
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Re: College Commitments
Yea the Colleyville and Keller game is going to be a really really good game. Last year the split games and both have very strong teams this year. I know the Austin Knight (Denton Ryan) is going to DBU, and Carrol has a few players going to junior colleges, such as Matt Bauer, Jeff Taliferro, and Zak Pressly.
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Re: College Commitments
Jeff T isnt going anywhere just yet, i caught wind that he turned down Two offers already for unknown reasons. Matt Bauer and Zak Presley are both going to Mclennan together. Chase Reid, who is a junior, has many colleges looking at him already as well. Austin Coan, a pitcher in there Rotation has a couple Junior Colleges as well, but no word on where he is going. I dont no about grapevine though, or Ryan. PS If you no me, dont call me to tell me stuff, just post it.
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Re: The Robert Stock Experiment
I agree with the sentiment, though obviously not everyone has the genes to get to that level. Everyone can benefit from hard work to get all they can out of what God gave you, but ... that begs the question of how much God gave you! Clearly, had he not had the high velo, teams would've given up on him years ago. Plenty of guys get released and involuntarily retired well before age 28. And Stock's numbers in the minors were not always that strong. But obviously he stuck with it. I'm reminded...
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Re: MLB or College?
The fear factor should never be a consideration because a player can get hurt anywhere at anytime. IMO, a player that suffers a major injury while young may be better off rehabbing while at college than in milb. In milb being on the DL is losing valuable time (even for #1 picks) while others in good health move ahead of you. Trust me on that one. This is why I am such a stickler for good practice in youth sports, especially for pitchers. As mentioned this is all a personal decision, keep in...
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Re: Arm rest or continue throwing regularly?
Interesting timing for this question... On the site, over the last few days, there are several related posts. There is some ASMI info with experts calling for taking at least 3 months off some time during the year. There's an interesting piece on Trevor Bauer and how hard and frequently he works and throws. There's last Sunday's HSBBW radio blog with esteemed coach Fred Corral saying he thinks you need to keep throwing. There are several references to pro's and con's of long toss. And, as I...
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Re: Arm rest or continue throwing regularly?
Very good article on Trevor Bauer in this week's Sport Illustrated. Talks about his conditioning program and approach to throwing - good read!
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Re: Arm Speed
Based on simple physics, I would think that with a crow hop/more momentum, it is easier to throw harder. (ex. Trevor Bauer in warmups) People with a large difference in OF throw speed and mound speed probably have mechanical issues that need to be addressed.
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Re: Improved Velocity
I guess that would be Trevor Bauer, since he has been a long time student of Wolforth. To be accurate, I don't believe that anyone in particular is saying that weighted balls are some magic bullet, they are just one aspect of the Wolforth program. PG, one other comment regarding your observation of professional baseball adopting a particular training program, Jaeger's long toss program was routinely criticized by many pro programs a few years ago(some still do today with the whole 120 ft...
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Re: Improved Velocity
Underload/Overload training has been proven to work in track and field. There are studies that show that it works wrt throwing for high schoolers but there are also those who would dispute those studies. Trevor Bauer would seem to be the poster boy for underload/overload throwing but he also is the poster boy for long toss and just plain hard work among other things so how does one know what contributed the most? JMO, but it can work for some players.
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Trevor Bauer demoted to AAA
Diamondback's pitcher Trevor Bauer, who was my favorite college player during his time at UCLA, has been sent back to the minor leagues after four fairly dismal starts.http://www.latimes.com/sports/...0719,0,1060026.storyWhy do you guys think some...
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All Hype-Where is the performance?
Gerrit Cole is always talked about being a high draft pick, maybe the first overall. At what point do people start to look at his performance as he is not getting the job done, especially compared to teammate Trevor Bauer. This is not apples to orange...
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Cole, Bauer & Reed
Not much of a surprise to see Cole and Bauer go early but also nice to see a local kid, Chris Reed get picked by the Dodgers in the first round. Reed is a good kid who seemed like he might get overlooked a bit going into this season. Also, congrats...
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Explosive Workout for Pitcher
Hey everyone,I come to y'all in need of some help with a workout. I'm working on building my own workout routine and I'm not sure where to go. I'm a smaller pitcher, 5'11, and I'm trying to add some velo over this summer and have really bought into...
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Trevor Bauer
What is your opinion on him? He is a really talented pitcher and also seems to be a very smart person who uses analytics to get better but he also gets into all kind of controversies.
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Trade Deadline
It's here... final few hours. My Tribe made a big move. I've got mixed feelings. It was best long-term since they weren't going to pay Bauer next year anyway. They certainly filled the one big hole they had and is so hard to find - RH pop. Unfortunately, they are also suddenly vulnerable with the rotation as far as any chance of a deep run this year. With Carrasco out indefinitely, they now need either a Kluber get-healthy and return-to-form or a Salazar get-hot-quick, both of which are...
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Re: HS Kids leaving early for College
It makes sense only for a few very special kids. Trevor Bauer was the last I am aware of, and of course Bryce Harper.