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2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
My son is a current LHP sophomore and plays on his HS JV team.  The HS is a Div 1 4a school that was in the CIF semi finals last year and plays in a very competitive league and schedules always schedules top CA teams ( Orange Lutheran, Harvard...
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Academic Showcase - June 23-24 in Washington DC Area

redbird5 ·
Why should an Academically gifted player wait to get on radar screens? The simple answer is that they shouldn't. That's why we picked June 23-24. Get on radar screens early. Start conversations earlier. Plan...Prepare. This is coming together nicely. Coaches are genuinely excited and committed schools are rolling in daily. Here are the details: June 23-24 in Washington, DC area (fields are being negotiated now) $695 (includes customized Play In School video) as well as a Written Eval from a...
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High Academic Baseball

rhp123 ·
I'm a 2015 Right Handed Pitcher, velocity 84-86 MPH, 2200 on SAT including 800 on math, what are my chances at any Ivy League school or an MIT/JHU?  
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Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?

daddyO ·
A few questions, and then I'll give some background. What is the recruiting landscape like for a player in the spring of his senior year? What academically elite D1 colleges still recruit at this point (top 50 US News and World Reports rankings)? What academically elite colleges would recruit a player who did not apply to their school already this late in the game?  Do the Ivy's or other elite college recruit this late in a seniors HS career? What would be best way to get out new...
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RJM ·
If you can pitch rather than just throw there might be some interest. You should contact the baseball coaches and find out what showcases to get in front of them. One you should definitely attend is Head First.
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fenwaysouth ·
rhp1123, As RJM indicated, you need to get in front of these coaches to determine your chances. Each school is going to have different requirements and different needs. Your 2200 SAT will get their attention but you should want to find the best fit whether it is Ivy, NESCAC, NEWMAC or CC conferences. Yes,these schools are all high academic but they are all very different...they have their own personalities. If you scored 800 on Math you have as good as a shot as any to MIT especially if you...
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Re: Academic Showcase - June 23-24 in Washington DC Area

MKbaseballdad ·
I actually think you most likely could do both - the Diamond Nation Tourney the 19th-22nd and then the showcase the 23rd/24th. It would depend on when the Diamond Nation games were and if the team you are playing for is strong enough that you'd think you'd be in the last few games (semis and final) as that would be one way you'd be assured that your team is at Diamond Nation (on their fields) and in front of a majority of the scouts in attendance. I happened to look back at this thread and...
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redbird5 ·
We would love to have you. Registrations are coming in and we haven't really advertised it.
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redbird5 ·
Add Duke to the list!
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RJM ·
A few years ago a friend's son blossomed his senior year. His high school team was loaded. He didn't get on the mound until senior year. He absolutely dominated. All the local D1s expressed interest. One was an Ivy. The dad had attended the Ivy for undergrad and law school. He couldn't manage any pull. The kid was told he had to get accepted outside baseball. He didn't. He ended up pitching in the A10. By senior year roster spots are typically filled. At an academically elite school the...
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JCG ·
DaddyO just so you know, Fenway is the guy here. Even though I know much less than he's forgotten I'll wade into say 2 things. One, I think your son missed the boat. If he wants to play baseball at a top academic D1 I think his best option is to take a gap year and work in getting recruited for next year at Ivies, Patriot league schools, etc. With his academics, worst case scenario is that he has to go through the trouble of re-applying to the UC's and others again. Two, sometimes you get...
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daddyO ·
His thoughts were that he didn't cast as big of a net as he should have, but the reality is that he was a borderline prospect 9 months ago who did not attend the camps that would have gotten him a look, and if he had he still would have not been the prospect he is now. He's applied to a few D3 schools with support, and has been honest with the coaches in that he is considering multiple schools. I'd figured the ship had sailed for the Ivy League, but was probably more interested in late...
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keewart ·
" He's also been admitted to several D1 schools that offered no support in admissions but are giving him the basic "you can walk on" email." Most of the D1s have locked up their recruiting and spent the available scholarship dollars at this point for the 2016s and probably most 2017s, too. However, there are ~7+ players on each team that are not getting athletic scholarship dollars, and are vying for a spot. If your son gets his pitching numbers up, there could be an opportunity. Many D3s...
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Camm ·
I agree with JCG about the US News rankings. A student may have to make a choice between playing baseball or going to a top 50 ranked USN school without playing baseball. An aside - I understand that the OP's son isn't interested in a list of possibilities outside a top 50 school, yet for others reading this thread who are looking at colleges with a child, I want to point out that some students with a high ACT score and enough AP passing test scores make JuCo a non-possibility. A student...
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fenwaysouth ·
Daddyo, Okay, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. Yes, unfortunetly I think he's missed the D1 & Ivy boat, but that it fine. He's got options to academically elite D3 schools as you described them, and an opportunity to play D3 baseball. That is nothing to sneeze at, and frankly an opportunity that not many people get. Considering the limited exposure your son demonstrated in front of college coaches, I'd say he got more than his fair share of attention if multiple coaches supported him.
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SluggerDad ·
Not much to add here, but walk-ons do sometimes, if rarely make it. Had a nephew who was a recruited walk-on at a low ranked midwestern D1 and he was cut. Still at the school cause he loves it. ON the other hand, son's HS teammate was a recruited as a walk-on to a UC, he too was cut. Played club ball for a year and is now at a JC. But on the flip side, my son's travel team teammate was a recruited walked on at Big 10 school, played his tail off in fall ball, absolutely raked during the fall...
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Ripken Fan ·
When my son was a junior in HS, the starting catcher received an offer and committed to a high academic small liberal arts D3 during the spring of his senior year. It can happen. The cards shuffle for D3 just like D1 (school thought they had a commit, now a spot is open) - just a little later.
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9and7dad ·
You've gotten some excellent advice - it's really too late for D1 recruiting unless a school has a unique situation arise. I'm curious, what do you see as his primary position? If you mentioned that earlier and I missed it, I apologize. The only other option you might consider is a post graduate prep school year. That gets him another whole year to both mature athletically and have another shot at recruiting. There are several elite preps on the east coast (that's my area of knowledge, there...
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Goosegg ·
In looking at your sons's athletic history and clear enjoyment and success at playing multiple sports, I wonder if choosing a school which has club sports in his sports may provide the athletics he needs. Or were you looking to leverage baseball to get into a school he wouldn't otherwise be admitted? I know that the Ivies generally do not reach the NCAA roster limit and kids walk on (get through admissions on their own) frequently. If your son is a late bloomer whose baseball skills add to...
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daddyO ·
Thanks for all the responses here and assistance. I'll try to address as much of the feedback as a I can. He wants to play an NCAA sport and get that experience. In the end he knows he needs to pick a school where he would be happy if he broke his leg on the first day of classes. He'd choose a great fit/school over a less good fit where he could play an NCAA sport. I guess he wants the best of both worlds, and as a 18 year old this is the time to have these dreams. He didn't apply at any of...
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fenwaysouth ·
Daddyo, As others have pointed out, it could be a possibility that your son gets picked up his senior year after a D1 committed recruit decommits or fails to get admitted. It does happen and nearly happened to my son his junior year with an SEC school. However, the big difference is the SEC school had seen my son play a dozen times over the spring and summer…they knew who he was and what he was capable of. Your senior son is an unknown quantity to a lot of these D1 schools in the middle of...
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RJM ·
Does your son want to pound his chest and say he was on a D1? Or is getting on the field more important? Players should go where they are loved not where there's just some interest. When there's just interest chances are there's a recruit ahead of him at his position (maybe two) who are getting love. Be a player not an insurance policy for the coach.
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daddyO ·
At this point if he had to decide he'd go with the one that loves him, but since he's still dating and not engaged or married, he's still looking for other suitors that might fall in love with him.
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6thatturnedouttobe9 ·
Your son sounds like a lot of kids that straddle the D1/D3 threshold. I am not sure what position he plays primarily or what kind of hitter he is against elite pitching or if he even knows, but it sounds like his 85 off the mound is the real spark for the inquiry. While the exit velo. sounds pretty good, based on my observations, there is a LOT more that goes into being projected as a successful hitter at the D1 level than exit velo; I know a multitude of kids who can hit elite high-level...
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daddyO ·
All good stuff, thanks for the input.
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Ripken Fan ·
Very true 6... tobe9 For those players, once one D1 shows interest, others may follow. Sort of like it's easier to get a job if you already have one. Tough enough to get an offer let alone waiting for the D1. How many of our sons have heard the RCs say, "what other schools are looking at you?" Your answer can determine how "convinced" they are.
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Gov ·
Good context... Sent you a PM
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leftyshortstop ·
I got a kick out of the OPs post. My son had identical numbers to the OPs son and turned down an Ivy to attend a highest academic D3 where he thought he'd get everyone out, be a two way player, and a four time All-America. Well, he couldn't get anyone out until he was a Junior throwing high 80's. The All-America finally came but it was a long hard road! All turned out great but it was super hard and he never regretted the high academic D3 over the Ivy. Be careful what you wish for. It looks...
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leftyshortstop ·
One more thing for the OP. Each team has at least 25 players but only 9 play and some of those nine are failing. That means the vast majority of college baseball players leave the sport having failed, and are, by and large, unhappy about it. Pick the place where you are going to succeed......in the classroom.
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fenwaysouth ·
In summary, the answers to your Ivy questions are that he would have to walk-on after being admitted. The time for your son to receive athletic sponsorship and support from the Coach is past unless there are extenuating circumstances. He would have to apply (late), be admitted (late) and walk-on which is not going to be easy since the Regular Decision deadline was early Jan 2016. If he has been accepted and the D3 coach wants him & supported him through high academic admissions why are...
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Re: Academic Showcase - June 23-24 in Washington DC Area

redbird5 ·
Excited to announce our Academic Showcase will be held at DeMatha HS's field in Riverdale, MD. Details at coastalvabaseball.com
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redbird5 ·
Add Navy and Holy Cross...with more Ivies are adjusting schedules to get here. If I am a smart player, why would I wait to get in front of these coaches? Also, why would I want to go to a camp with 250+ kids, when I can go to a more intimate setting? We will also have a panel of college coaches to discuss recruiting.
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Gov ·
RedB.., What about Georgetown? Obviously in your back yard...
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redbird5 ·
Gov, Georgetown has been to our fall events and I fully anticipate they will be at the Academic event as well. We are not done adding coaches by any means. I expect 30-40 coaches at our event.
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Twoboys ·
It sounds perfect for our high academic 2017, and so nice it will be in DC. For us, the timing may not work as the Diamond Nation 17U tournament is that same weekend (tourney is 6/19-6/24), and that is a tournament that normally pulls in quite a few high academic coaches as well. And sadly it is on our schedule for the summer. It will be another case of, you can't do both.
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BucsFan ·
Well done. Sounds like a terrific event and one that can grow and grow into something special. Nice touch with the combo of (1) video and (2) coach's evaluations.
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Gov ·
Well done. With your offering and price point well worth it. We'll consider this, and I'm more than happy to pass it along to other club members.
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

leftyshortstop ·
I want to be completely honest with the poster about the number and odds for the "crafty lefty" pitcher in top academic baseball. The very high academic school my son plays for has only one. That player only does late inning mop up work and gets hit very hard. For that matter, we have a 6'3" lefty who throws north of 85 who is a weekend starter and gets hit very hard if his breaking stuff isn't on. So here are the odds at our school. The coaching staff recruits nationally for only 6 "tips"...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks craftyshortstop.....great info from someone who is currently watching heir son play D3 baseball. He still has two more years left, so we'll see where his velo ends up but I'm assuming if he get into the low 80s, he may get some looks being a lefty and with his grades. if not...im sure he'll go to a good University, join a fraternity and have just as good a time. ....remembering that most of these HS and college players will never make a living playing baseball. Good luck to your so...
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fenwaysouth ·
In the context of most D3 academic schools.......If your screen name reflects his desires, his future academics and baseball team will most likely be determined by continued strong GPA and future SAT/ACT scores. Top academic schools recruit their baseball players through academics . Occidental and Hopkins are examples, but there are more such as the NESCAC conference. So, he'll want to be one of the best baseball players to get the coaches "tip", and have the best grades to get the...
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Check the on-line rosters of the teams that you mentioned (Oxy, UCSD, CSM, etc). Height and weigh don’t tell the whole story, but it should give you an idea of what’s typical. Of course, focus on the LHPs. You might also find profiles for some of those kids on the Perfect Game site, and that will list their pitching velocity. Also, use the Perfect Game site to see the recent classes who committed to schools that he is interested in. The “College Commitments” list will link you to player...
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J H ·
Not to sound blunt or rude, but I'd suggest taking a step back and waiting until he plays varsity baseball before looking at college baseball. Lots can happen in that timeframe.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks guys...as always, great advice. Speaking to a local ex scout who runs a Connie Mack and scout team here in Socal, said that there is college baseball out there for everyone if they are realistic, so I've always tried to keep things in perspective. JH...you're not gonna hurt my feelings. Like I've said, I've never told my son or thought he would ever make $ playing baseball. He's always fought through not passing the eye test, but he's still growing and has gotten where be has cause he...
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J H ·
AcademicsFirst- Good thought process. I apologize if I came off as blunt, I've just seen a lot of people in your position going way overboard in relation to the process. I've seen 96 mph fastballs in D3 baseball and 75 mph fastballs in D1 baseball. The only thing you can do as a player is work as hard as you can to be the best you can possibly be, both in the classroom and on the field. Once the time comes, getting a gauge of where you stand is easier than some think. If you get yourself...
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cabbagedad ·
Participation in the SoCal Scout league along with acceptance and attendance at the better Stanford camp (and/or a PG event) will give you both a real good idea where he stacks up. I've heard that statement about "there's a college for every player" before and I don't really agree. Realistically, the average player will finds it very surprising how competitive even most D3's and NAIA's are. Many decent/average HS players (not saying your son is), have to be willing to travel to the far...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Great points Cabbage...haha, if his velo stays where it is for the next two years, I'll be the first one telling him to go get his degree from Berkley or UCLA. He works out weekly with Trevor Bauer's pitching coach he had when he was in HS, so we'll see how his strength and velocity increases this next year. In the meantime, I'm just thankful he doesn't NEED baseball to get into a good College. Playing baseball would just be an added bonus.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks J H...I totally agree with you.
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RJM ·
Check out Head First showcases. They're for kids who are more academically inclined.
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web's dad ·
AcademicsFirst, You're getting a lot of good advice here. A good reality check. Your son is not "projectible". He's a grinder. You seem to be doing all the right things to give your son the best chance to figure out where he belongs. Your son's academics will open doors for him. For the "grinders", at some point it becomes a matter of how hard he is willing to work. Web is a "grinder". He surpassed more physically gifted players because he was willing to out work them. Don't give up on...
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fenwaysouth ·
Totally agree with web's dad. AF - You have a dialogue in the top right box of the web page.
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