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High Academic Baseball

rhp123 ·
I'm a 2015 Right Handed Pitcher, velocity 84-86 MPH, 2200 on SAT including 800 on math, what are my chances at any Ivy League school or an MIT/JHU?  
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2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
My son is a current LHP sophomore and plays on his HS JV team.  The HS is a Div 1 4a school that was in the CIF semi finals last year and plays in a very competitive league and schedules always schedules top CA teams ( Orange Lutheran, Harvard...
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RJM ·
If you can pitch rather than just throw there might be some interest. You should contact the baseball coaches and find out what showcases to get in front of them. One you should definitely attend is Head First.
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fenwaysouth ·
rhp1123, As RJM indicated, you need to get in front of these coaches to determine your chances. Each school is going to have different requirements and different needs. Your 2200 SAT will get their attention but you should want to find the best fit whether it is Ivy, NESCAC, NEWMAC or CC conferences. Yes,these schools are all high academic but they are all very different...they have their own personalities. If you scored 800 on Math you have as good as a shot as any to MIT especially if you...
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Postgraduate Year or Gap Year for Ivy League Recruiting (2019 Grad)

Feelgood77 ·
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any experience or advice for someone considering a PG or gap year to increase likelihood of being recruited to an Ivy League School. In my case, I am a young 2019 (turned 17 recently) OF that got considerable interest from a few ivies, but ultimately just wasn't good enough baseball wise to get an offer. Academically, I have a 3.85 UW GPA (4.4 Weighted) and 1560 SAT with many APs and honors classes. I also have a huge legacy at Columbia (brother,...
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Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???

Gov ·
2018 is seeking to play at top academic school. He's been the starting SS for club team, playing national events, and also the occasional and effective closer (1-2x per week - 2-3 innings). Solid line drive hitter as well... IF velo just hit 87; pitching coach thinks his FB velo will be 85 pretty quickly. We're thinking we should be promoting his SS/RHP two player capabilities. How do Ivy's view two players? Anybody with experience or points of view with this? Hoping to tap into the...
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Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?

daddyO ·
A few questions, and then I'll give some background. What is the recruiting landscape like for a player in the spring of his senior year? What academically elite D1 colleges still recruit at this point (top 50 US News and World Reports rankings)? What academically elite colleges would recruit a player who did not apply to their school already this late in the game?  Do the Ivy's or other elite college recruit this late in a seniors HS career? What would be best way to get out new...
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Academic Showcase - June 23-24 in Washington DC Area

redbird5 ·
Why should an Academically gifted player wait to get on radar screens? The simple answer is that they shouldn't. That's why we picked June 23-24. Get on radar screens early. Start conversations earlier. Plan...Prepare. This is coming together nicely. Coaches are genuinely excited and committed schools are rolling in daily. Here are the details: June 23-24 in Washington, DC area (fields are being negotiated now) $695 (includes customized Play In School video) as well as a Written Eval from a...
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Getting on Radar as Soph.

BaseballDad72 ·
Hey everyone. First post here. My son is a high academic kid and is a soph. RHP. Had some terrible travel ball experiences playing on a few elite regional teams. Had an injury during first year with national level travel team, which he seems to have overcome. I know he burnt out this past summer, too. Didn't play last summer and came back to HS ball in spring and really reconnected with the game and had a good year on varsity as soph. despite not playing at all for the year before. We're...
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Re: NCAA-D1 Ivy League Conference Comparison 2017 - 2019

Goosegg ·
Once a player gets there, a player stays there. Virtually no attrition for an entire league.
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Re: NCAA-D1 Ivy League Conference Comparison 2017 - 2019

fenwaysouth ·
A couple items of note.... In Cornell's case, they are both a public and private charter. So part of their funding comes from the SUNY system for agriculture, arts & science and a few other colleges within the University. In my experience, a couple transfers have come from the SUNY system. I don't know if Columbia is getting their transfers from SUNY system as both schools are in NY. They were the only schools listed as accepting transfers (edit in 2019) These schools frequently get...
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Re: NCAA-D1 Ivy League Conference Comparison 2017 - 2019

CollegebaseballInsights ·
I'm still trying to reconcile the transfers. Cornell current transfers com from GEORGIA HIGHLANDS COLLEGE , MOHAWK VALLEY CC , GEORGIA TECH 2018 - GEORGIA HIGHLANDS COLLEGE , GEORGIA TECH, COLLEGE OF SAN MATEO, KENYON, IONA Columbia 2019 - MCLENNAN , WHITMAN , RICE
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Re: NCAA-D1 Ivy League Conference Comparison 2017 - 2019

9and7dad ·
Penn has had transfers on the roster in the not too distant past. I believe they have one right now.
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9and7dad ·
Just looked at the graphic and see you have Penn down for a transfer in 2019. Sorry for my confusion.
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fenwaysouth ·
That's an honest mistake 9and7dad. Yes, tough to read the graphics. I had to break out the reading glasses for extra magnification. Regarding the Reshirt row.....No redshirting (5th year) and no graduate students in Ivy League athletics. Ivy athletes get 4 years of eligibility. If you have a year of NCAA eligibility left, it is possible to transfer to play elsewhere as a graduate student. Two of my son's teammates were injured their sophomore year and had a year of NCAA eligibility. They got...
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Ripken Fan ·
Was going to say the same thing. Not too much attrition from the draft either as more seniors are drafted than juniors. Along Fenway's note, RipkenFanSon had a teammate who was hurt early senior year last year (game 4 of season). He's playing at USC for his 4th year of eligibility as a grad student. Duke had a grad student pitcher drafted last year who had earlier earned his Ivy degree from Princeton.
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CollegebaseballInsights ·
Correct, from PALOMAR COLLEGE
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CollegebaseballInsights ·
Agreed. the JPG file is hard to read. Release v1.2 will have new graphics library for college profile Current release Release v1.2
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

MKbaseballdad ·
Son attended HF and the short answer to that question is yes, pitchers throw both days. I'm not sure if I'd say "make you" throw 2 days. I think you'd have the option to just throw day 1 or 2 but you'd most likely only get your 2 innings for that day. That's probably a good question for you to ask the HF team via email. They are very responsive. I can tell you that they have a pitching coordinator who checks on the pitchers each day as they enter the facility (on Long Island) and adjusts...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

9and7dad ·
So you're saying that two short outings on consecutive days bothers your arm? If so, you may have an issue that requires attention.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

cabbagedad ·
Welcome to the site, Kayne87... Yes, this is the bigger concern... Figure out what the issues are and get them fixed sooner than later or there will be no purpose in pursuing playing at the next level. That symptom points to something either structural or mechanical and there is a possibility that you are worsening the issue by continuing to throw. Get to a good sports PT or sports ortho. Best of luck to you.
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PGStaff ·
Once again, this can be a pitch count situation. Depending on how many pitches are thrown on the first day. It's not innings, it is the number of pitches that count. I'm almost certain that no one at either camp is going to throw someone who tells them he can't throw. This is why parents and players need to monitor things and understand arm care. Nobody running those events mentioned wants to purposely put any pitcher at risk. All you have to do is tell them ahead of time that you only want...
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Backstop22 ·
My son attended HF in Sacramento and if you signed up as a Pitcher as your primary position, you are expected, but not required, to pitch 2 innings both days. Now when I say "innings" remember: All batters start with a 1-1 count and are told to swing away--the HF umps call anything close a strike Only 5 batters hit each inning By way of example, my son pitched 11 pitches one inning and 14 the next and that was with several K's. I'd say most kids tossed between 15-25 pitches in their two...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

playball2011 ·
Are you saying you are in pain day after throwing many innings or is arm just tired? Is it painful when you re throwing? How many do you pitch in a game, 100, 110, 120 plus? If you have any pain it needs to be checked out. Much better to have issue in HS and fix it then in college if you get to play at that level. Good Luck to you.
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Rob T ·
As mentioned above... Throwing a couple of innings two days in a row may not be ideal depending on the number of pitches - but it should be something that you can do if necessary. If you do move on to play in college, you are going to be expected to throw a lot. Probably 6-7 days a week at some points. If pitching one day makes it impossible to throw the next, you really need to get your arm checked out. You are probably aggravating a chronic condition, and that isn't good for your long term...
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Re: Where can I play

#1 Assistant Coach ·
Ok, I'll take a swing at this one since no one else has.......Kanye those are some impressive #s. Like, all of them. Was this your first showcase? Do you play summer ball for a showcase team? Are you new to the idea of playing college baseball? Your post reads as if you just happened to stumble into an Ivy showcase and have no clue about a recruiting process that for a 2017 is in its final phase. If you are what you say you are, then you have a lot to offer. Not sure what Ivy you were just...
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Re: Where can I play

kanye87 ·
Thanks for the reply. I was approached by an Ivy and Georgetown. I also just got an email from a NESCAC. I went up to the Georgetown camp a few weeks ago and was 85-87. My GPA is only a 3.1 uw and a 3.3 w so I am a little worried that this score is too low for these schools. My test score is a 34 only when superscored (33 reg) but I think most schools take the superscore. Is it true that Ivy recruiting is in it's final phase? I have only seen a few kids commit thus far in the summer. I...
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Re: Where can I play

jacjacatk ·
Without any other context, I'd be concerned about taking on an Ivy academically with a 3.1 GPA, and I would guess that your GPA would be a stumbling block in recruiting, though not necessarily an impassable one given your other numbers. Notwithstanding that, if you're sitting mid/upper 80s as a 2017, there's somewhere for you to play with that GPA and ACT. You should probably be further down the road than where you appear to be based on your questions here, though. If I were you, I'd be...
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JCG ·
Your ACT is really high, while your GPA and uw GPA is low for Ivy and indicates lack of the rigor they want to see. There are certainly good D3 schools that would love to have you, but with your ACT and your velo, I'd spend a year or two at Juco kicking academic and baseball ass. If you do that you can take your pick of pretty much any school in the country.
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RJM ·
When my son went through recruiting the two interested Ivies were looking for an unweighted 3.5 with several AP courses plus a 1300+ SAT (Math and English). 1300+ is equal to a 28 ACT on the conversion chart I found. The NESCACs and comparable D3s he spoke with soph year were looking for the same. Maybe your 34 ACT score will allow a little leeway on grades. Is your 3.3 unweighted or weighted? If unweighted with a lot of AP and high honors classes it may be ok if the coach wants to really...
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Twoboys ·
My 2017 was at the same showcase, I think. How do you already know your velocity? Mine pitched too, and had some interest as well but no one said what he was at yesterday.
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fenwaysouth ·
The short answer is yes, however you still have a lot to prove to the coaches and the Admission Committee. Pitching is more than MPH and a good student is much better than an average GPA with a high ACT. The ivy & nescac coaches take their direction from the admissions committee. If I was an Ivy coach I'd have alot of questions about your academic work ethic or possibly the high school you went to. I understand there can be extenuating circumstances with ultra competitive high schools.
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RKBH ·
I have heard and seen there is a chart the Ivy's use to evaluate athletes. It gives a score based on your GPA, SAT, ACT, class rank. I cannot remember what it is called. But basically if I remember correctly a "normal" Ivy student's # is around 215 or higher. They allow a certain amount of athletes 200-210, 190-200, 180-190 and I think the lowest they allow is a 172. But there are only 1 or 2 of those players. If anyone can post what this chart is called...?? Also, just an FYI - normal...
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9and7dad ·
The chart you are referring to is called the academic index. Google it for all the info you need. The old adage is that the higher the velo, the lower the acceptable academic credentials needed.
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Ripken Fan ·
Here's a link and a little write-up on the AI from Tucker Frawley, Yale's Associate Head Coach who handles recruiting. http://www.frawleybaseball.com...23a10cf21038318d665a
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Goosegg ·
Your velo has reached a level where an Ivy would be interested - but not close to the top of a recruiting class. Your ACT is fine. Your grades are the issue. For that to pass admissions, your HS better have an incredibly difficult curve, or have a narrative to explain the big difference between grades and scores. If you were the absolute top tier recruit (projected future Baseball America college all-star) for a school, the coach may be able to get you through admissions; otherwise probably...
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SluggerDad ·
With your grades an IVY is a super stretch. Even if you were god's gift to baseball, it would still be a super stretch. Your test scores will help -- but not that much on their own. Pretty much same is true of NESCAC. There are lots of kids with significantly better grades and equally good or better test scores that get turned down by such schools. Plus you velo -- though about average for starters at competitive D3's is not STANDOUT velo. What's the rest of your story? Do you have a...
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JCG ·
^^^^^^ this. ^^^^^^
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kanye87 ·
I was approached by a coach who told me. I think that is just because I threw so hard. Im sure you can email them to find out.
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???

Ripken Fan ·
Gov- A couple of thoughts. On the one hand, the rosters in Ivy (in some) are smaller than the 35 you'll see at other D1s. Some pitchers (POs) will get ABs in the spring or in blowout games. Others who can hit, but were POs may DH (seen it) if there arm is injured. Schools will determine where the need is . It sounds like your 2018 is more of a SS (a position heavily recruited in Ivy due to its versatility) who can pitch. One Freshman at an Ivy this year was a pretty good hitter in high...
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Gov ·
Thanks Ripken. Do you think my 2018 should sign up as both a position player and RHP at HF to show pitching capability? Or, sign up as MIF/SS, and maybe mention he can pitch (show video), and say he's able to help on the mound, promoting more flexibility?
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BOF ·
Before you even get to the baseball part have you researched the Ivy academic requirements and is he truly IVY GPA, test scores, levels? Second it is unusual for a middle infielder to be recruited as a two way due to the demands placed on those positions. Schools will recruit for outstanding talent first. "getting to 85 pretty quickly" is not 85, it is what ever he is now. Granted he is a 2018 so he has development time, but even though they are high academic, IVY's are looking for power...
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Gov ·
He has the academic chops... BOF, I think you've served up the key thing: "demands placed on positions" We'll focus on strong arm and good bat SS.
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Goosegg ·
I know (have seen play) two, two way players in the Ivy leagues. One is now in the Cardinals bull pen; the other is steaming his way through the Yankee system. One played short; the other first. One's velo sat 90, the other sat 87 in college. Both were studs at the plate; average fielders. But, in the end your son has no real control of where he'll play. (a) if he's good enough (b) he'll play anywhere the coach wants. So, the goal is to get good - very good in something - anything really.
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Ripken Fan ·
Along the lines of BOF 's comment, where is the real strength? His throw across the diamond for a 2018 is pretty good. I would probably sign up as MI (position that fills the quickest at HF camps) and then send video on pitching to schools you are in touch with. Again school's need will dictate much. In son's recruiting journey, he received interest as both MI and CF. In the end he was offered for a spot as an "athletic MI who could play the OF if needed." Good luck.
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???

MKbaseballdad ·
As far as signing up for HF - there were plenty of players there who pitched and played the field when we were there. I think it's possible for him to sign up as MIF and still get one or two innings each day. Esp day 2 - they are scrambling to fill innings. My 2016 signed up as PO, still did the batting cage part of the camp so he wasn't just standing around and somehow ended up starting MIF and batting in game 2 on the first day. The only thing he didn't participate in was the...
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Gov ·
His strength is at SS, and already signed up as MIF for HF. I've tried to protect his arm by limiting time on the mound to a few innings per tournament. Wasn't until his velo picked up that this idea of marketing as a two player came up; another angle to generate more appeal. Just needed to air this out with the wisdom on the board, thank you.
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fenwaysouth ·
Beyond all the advise that has been offered, there is more to it than just your son. A few years ago, I believe very few Ivy HCs believed in it and most not at all. From our 4 year experience in the "League" only Princeton had a consistent philosophy of allowing two-way players. 4 HCs within the Ivy have changed since my son hung up his cleats in 2014, so I think it is a fair question to ask the HC about his specific two-way philosophy. So, assuming you get through all the academic and...
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Wolf ·
My son was in a similar position when getting recruited. He was looking at some of the high academic D3s but not quite Ivy level. He has always been a MIF and a closer (although in HS, he played SS but did not pitch much despite hitting 88mph on the gun in his senior year), During the recruiting process, he always focused on explaining his tools and saying he was willing to play anywhere the team needed him but told the absolute truth about his desire to play MIF and pitch whenever the team...
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Matty ·
I don't have Ivy experience, but I am the parent of a two-way player in high school. It's a lot of work to be good at both positions, and keep up with academics. My son is now a freshman at an elite academic D3 and he is hoping to NOT be a two-way player even though the coach has mentioned he might be used as a closer. He will do whatever is asked of him, but it will be very hard with his academic workload.
 
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