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TheRightScuff ·
I'm starting to think that the early commit pressure high school kids and their parents feel applies more to position players than to pitchers. Colleges never stop looking to add the right pitcher it seems. So I worry less about slots being filled as a pitcher. My 2020 LHP is in a somewhat similar situation where he picked up some elbow tightness this summer. No structural damage, but no real urgency to push it as a 2020 in the fall of his junior year... so he's going to rest it. Just want...
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CTbballDad ·
Spot on, especially for LHP. You're smart to take the fall off. Let him rest and get into the gym to build strength.
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LuvMyKids ·
Quick update ...... Son did a 180, struggled to throw strikes this summer and bat improved to the point that if he wasn't pitching he was at 1st or 3rd. They needed his bat in the lineup. He hit for average with some pop. The plan now is to continue to work at 1st and 3rd and his hitting. The game will eventually tell him when he is a pitcher only.
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TPM ·
JMO but from my experience players should not be pitcher only until they reach varsity in HS. Why the rush? Mine was one of the top middle school pitchers entering HS. He passed up most of his freshman year to play varsity and remained as a utility guy. When not pitching he played other positions. But during summer after that year he was a pitcher only on any travel team and HS team until senior year.
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lionbaseball ·
The time to be P.O. is college or a summer travel team that gets exposure to scouts. My son had an opportunity to be a P.O. for a 18U travel team that supposedly had the majority of players signed to colleges already (words from the coach) and some being looked at by MLB scouts. I think my son felt that if he stunk it up then there was nothing else to contribute and he didn't want to waste $600.
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2020dad ·
Glad this was revived... When I commented originally I can't believe I failed to say a couple things. First big time kudos for your son being an A student and second good for him with working hard to get in athletic shape! He is on the right track.
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roothog66 ·
My son only became a PO when he became part of a team in which his bat simply wasn't as good as the rest of the lineup. This is summer ball. In high school, he will likely be hitting middle of the lineup. It doesn't bother him and we haven't spent a lot of time on hitting over the past couple of years, simply because it has been obvious for awhile that any opportunities to play beyond high school are tied firmly to pitching. the point is, I guess, that he didn't choose when to become a PO,...
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TPM ·
+1
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2020 with injury

Jam24 ·
Hi, I am a first-time poster though I regularly read the advice on this forum. So thanks in advance for any advice you can provide. My son is a RHP who last year (summer/fall of 2017) after his freshman year received numerous offers, including a full ride offer from a Pac12 school. He felt very much like he wanted to keep looking because he didn't know what he wanted (and the Pac12 school is in our hometown and he wants to go away for school). Anyway, fast forward to this year and he...
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LuvMyKids ·
Hello everyone, Been lurking for a while and just got up the nerve to ask for some advice. To give you a little background, I have a 2020 that started playing baseball about 3 years ago. At the time he was the chubby kid, not much talent but if he wanted it, his mom and I were going to support him. He was about 5'6" and weighed 200. He is an A student as well. He had never pitched before and because of his age during the upcoming season he was expected to pitch. We decided to seek out a...
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hshuler ·
Jam - Has any doctor been able to figure out the source of the problem? That needs to be the first order of business if he going to continue pitching. The word may be out that he has an injury and RC’s now want to see if he will be and can remain healthy going forward. Best wishes on a full and speedy recovery to your young man. I hope that it all works out in the end.
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bandera ·
If they 've pulled their attention, do you really think they would have sent a NLI on signing day? You would have had false security. Verbals are not binding. Worse case kid attends fall and gets cut. Lost a year of eligibility.
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hshuler ·
I started to add something similar to my post. I really don’t think that you hedged and lost. It’s likely that, as Bandera stated, no school would have honored the offer IF he’s not healthy. The good news is that IF he can get healthy and return to form, the interest from schools should return.
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PitchingFan ·
You still have time. If doctors say he has a good chance of getting better, then do what they say. If they made offers and he was good enough as a freshman to get attention it will be there if he gets back healthy.
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3and2Fastball ·
JAM24 - I greatly sympathize with your son's situation. If he was good enough to get P5 offers early, he'll get them later, too, if he can get healthy. The key is getting back to 100%. You definitely should take him to somebody who is an expert in shoulders and throwing injuries.
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Jam24 ·
That’s a good question about whether there is a specific mechanical or physiological cause. I don’t know but we have a good doctor and can ask that question. Thanks for your comments and good wishes.
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Jam24 ·
Thanks for the replies. To Bandera and HShuler, you make a good point. It’s possible schools would have dropped him but I do See schools stick with an injured player sometimes (maybe see what happens the following year). Certainly if he doesn’t heal and improve it wouldn’t have worked out either way.
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Nuke83 ·
Have you been to an orthopedist at all? From your response above, it doesn't sound like it, which is a bit surprising given the potential your son has shown to have gained high interest early and that fact that he missed his entire HS season. As others have stated already, seek some serious medical opinion, but you need to look beyond the family doctor (and apologies if you have, but your post above just mentions "a good doctor") and seek out an orthopedist that has some specialty in sports...
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Jam24 ·
Nuke83 - thanks for your concern. we have been to an ortho. Had MRIs and know specifically what the injury is. But we haven’t asked if there is something he is doing - mechanically - that is causing it. Would need to sync up dr. /PT/ coach for that I guess.
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LuvMyKids ·
Thanks for all the advice....
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BishopLeftiesDad ·
Thanks for the update. I think the forum really appreciates it when someone comes back with an update. It make the post so much more valid than one that never has an answer.
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Matt Reiland ·
Good to hear he kept an open mind about other positions and is improving at the plate.
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LuvMyKids ·
Yes.... I like when a thread has been updated as well.
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LuvMyKids ·
Thanks for the kind words 2020DAD.....
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Golfman25 ·
Actually, he is at the age when teams start to look to add players who are "pitcher only." But he better like sitting around a lot. Depending on circumstances he may only get one game for a typical tournament week end.
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LuvMyKids ·
Yes.... This is something we need to discuss.
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LivingtheDream ·
At 12 or so my son thought he would like to be a PO. He wasn't having the success batting that he wanted and was frustrated. But, his team had 11 players so a PO wasn't an option(and we wouldn't have supported it at 12 anyway). So, he worked on his batting and by freshman year he had a pretty good bat. Now he is a sophomore playing varsity as a primary pitcher but will also play in the field as well. Because his bat is too good to put on the bench. Do you think his desire to PO is in any way...
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TPM ·
The OP explained he plays other positions but loves to pitch and wants to be a PO. Should he be? No. JMO
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Go44dad ·
This is what I have seen. At his age, a lot of travel teams want PO's, or kids who mostly pitch, but the orgs themselves do not work pitchers in practice like they are pitchers only. The put them through positional fielding and batting practice. If a PO, pitcher specific conditioning, bullpens, long toss, pitcher drills come outside of the org's practice. So just something to consider in how your son's travel team is set up.
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baseballmom ·
I remember these words of wisdom..."there's only so many bullets in the holster". Since your son has seen such good progress with a pitching coach, have you considered that he may have the same or better success with a hitting coach? He's average now (as are most 14 yr olds)...a few hitting lessons could take him to above...or exceptional...or...? And, there's not quite the risk of overuse/injury/pressure. And, playing multiple positions, developing as a hitter...provides more options in...
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TPM ·
Great advice coming from another pitcher's mom.
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joes87 ·
Im of the mindset that he should continue as a two way player at this point. Things may change once he makes the V team at HS but until then leave all your options open. I am going to use my 2017 as an example... Up until this past off season he was a 2 way player. P, IB and some OF. Going into the off season his HS coach mentioned that next (this just started) season he most likely would be primarily a P on Varsity and play some 1B in the JV games (if he wanted to play a position). His...
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LuvMyKids ·
Yes..... He has not had the success at the plate as he's had on the mound. It's not that his hitting is that bad, I think it has more to do with his pitching is very good and his hitting doesn't compare.
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LuvMyKids ·
Thanks everyone..... All the feedback has been fantastic!
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LuvMyKids ·
Thanks for sharing...
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2020dad ·
He should do what makes him happy. But my approach would be to let the game tell you when it's time to be a PO. When the coach stops putting you in the line up then it's time to be a PO! In the meantime he can of course direct his efforts to improve more in the pitching area. Kind of what my son will do with basketball. Simply doesn't have any more hours in the day to give basketball a max effort. So he will play in high school for fun til the coach cuts him. If he plays four years great. If...
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CaCO3Girl ·
I also have a 2020 and I have to say I am confused by your post. Does your kid love baseball or not? It's all well and good to have a preference for a favorite position but playing on a team is suppose to entail the whole concept of "Yes sir, wherever you need me to play". We all gravitate to what we are good at, but your son will have more baseball options open to him if he can broaden his knowledge base. If he loves the game and wants to continue he should learn all that he can and become...
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Florida State Fan ·
I don't see a problem with your wanting to pitch only. His talent as a pitcher will determine whether he can do that or not.
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LuvMyKids ·
Thanks for the response
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kandkfunk ·
At that age, he still has a lot to learn about the game. Scenarios, plays, defensive strategies, etc. Do you think he will learn at the same rate watching from the bench as he would being a part of the action during each game? I know a couple kids your son's age who might do ok with that task, but the vast majority would not. My 2018 LHP son learned so much about baseball between 7th and 9th grade that I can't imagine him taking this route. I guess I would just be thinking about his overall...
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cabbagedad ·
Welcome to the site. You said he does enjoy playing the infield and then you asked if he is too young to only want to pitch. So there is a bit of contradiction / confusion. Assuming he does enjoy playing the infield, I would encourage him to continue to do so for all the good reasons mentioned... continue to develop a first hand knowledge of the game, enjoy playing more and sitting less, use less pitching bullets, potentially develop a love for other aspects of the game as well, contribute...
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PWPW ·
Another thing to think about is how much kids mentally and physically change from middle school to their senior year. It sounds like he has just gone through puberty with the way you described his body changing. Usually it takes a good year or so for a kids hand eye coordination to catch up to his new body. Hitting has a lot to do with hand eye coordination. I would give it a few more years and see how he develops at both pitching and hitting.
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gunner34 ·
i think you are in good shape, play in big events this summer on a good travel program and I think you are going to get a lot more interest. sounds like you are somewhat of a late bloomer but with your size and velocity i think you will see good interest this summer. My son had 2 2019 pitchers at his school pick up Big 12 offers last summer.
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3and2Fastball ·
It's not too late for P5. Keep working at it, and of course take good care of your arm! The summer before Senior year is huge for colleges of all sizes getting a good look at prospects.
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cabbagedad ·
While the typical cycle for a P5 is a bit earlier, they will definitely find room for a kid that touches 90's and is an effective P with decent secondary offerings. If you have success with your top travel summer team, I'm pretty sure you will have P5 opportunities. Make sure grades and attitude are in check as well.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
At 6'3 and throwing 90 you're going to get looked at as a pitcher. The odds of being a two-way, especially in a P5 are very, very slim. Keep working the velo and you're likely to have plenty of offers over the summer....especially if you can push it up to 92-93
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2020 RHP/ Is it too late for P5

2020RHPCA ·
To start off, I am a 6’3” and around 200 lbs RHP/Corners. So far in the beginning of the year I’ve been throwing around 87-90 with a plus slider and an above average change (although it’s pretty inconsistent at the moment). I think I’ll be throwing around 89- 92 when summer rolls around. I think I can play two way at the next level but I don’t think my bat alone will get me where I want to go. Also, This summer I’m going to play for one of the top travel teams in the state, which will...
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letsgo!!! ·
If you are 89-92 when summer rolls around and have plus offspeed you will receive interest/offers from a variety of P5 programs.....what's critical for you is to be with the right organization at the right events......WWBA, music city, midwesprospect league, etc. are important places to be......if you have verifiable stats (pg,pbr) email your target schools pitching coach/recruiting coordinator a link to your profile along with information as to why you are interested in there school and...
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roothog66 ·
My 2018 verbally committed to a Big West school in July before his senior year. He was throwing 88-90. He had a decent number of offers. He signed the NLI that November. His senior year was off-the-charts successful. Pro scouts coming out, gave up only 6 hits in 52.2 innings the entire year. Sitting 91-93/T94. We fielded SEVERAL calls that spring (usually backdoor requests through scouts) from P5's wanting to know if he had actually signed his NLI. It was quite clear that this improvement...
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PABaseball ·
It's late, but it is never too late for a guy throwing 90 with height. You're in the right direction with the travel team. If they're not hitting the WWBA and the other major tournaments this summer, find a team to guest play with - one that is even better. What you should be doing now is reaching out to schools with the subject line - Joe Smith 6'2 91 mph RHP - and telling them you're interested in their program with some video of you throwing a bullpen with a radar in the frame. Make sure...
 
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