Tagged With "WWBA"

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Looking to play in PG Tournaments?

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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Looking to Play in Big Events this Fall/Winter?

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA, National Championship, Etc.

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA, EvoShield Nat'l Championship, Etc.

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG EvoShield Nat'l Championship

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA, EvoShield Nat'l Championship

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule

JeffnNYC ·
My son is a 2019 6'4" 205lb hit and hit-for-power 3B/RHP with 7.2 speed . He attends an academically rigorous independent boarding school and is a solid student (3.2/ACT~25) who has taken seven AP and/or IB courses, as well as Physics, Chemistry, Calc, Econ, Stats, and Spanish 5. He's also a very mature kid and has travelled extensively internationally. He's been a three sport varsity athlete since his freshman year and quarterbacked the football team this past fall. Coaches/Scouts say...
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Baseball U Tryouts

Baseball U Travel ·
Baseball U considered one of the top travel programs in the country will be holding 2017 tryouts for High School as well as Middle School age teams on Sunday, November 6th. Baseball U who is celebrating their 10th Anniversary has now helped over 480 players move on to college as well as had 87 players selected in the MLB Draft. The organization has had 8 1st Round draft picks and this year had two 1st round alumni taken in the draft. Each year the organization grows in size covering 4 states...
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PG WWBA

pnw2017 ·
I have a few questions regarding the 17u wwba in july. How many college coaches roughly? How many on average per game? Which conferences will be there? How many schools send multiple coaches?
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justbaseball ·
Dozens...perhaps even hundreds. Depends on how many prospects in a particular game, 0-30. Most. A lot, sometimes split across the week.
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Bolts-Coach-PR ·
If you're playing at LakePoint there's a good chance there will be hundreds spread across the complex, (from just about EVERY conference in the country) at every part of the day... Depending on the depth of talent of the teams playing could determine how many coaches are at each particular game. Hopefully the organization you're going with has a reputation of getting kids committed, because that could possibly outweigh depth of overall team talent... Coaches do travel to the High Schools...
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pnw2017 ·
Not 100 percent going yet, but the team I would play for had about 90 percent d1 commits last year and their second team had 60 percent. I'm assuming more colleges attend the lake point games than outside fields.
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MKbaseballdad ·
The honest answer is that there are 100s of coaches there but there is no way to guarantee who will be at each game. When my 2016 played there 2 summers ago we saw less coaches at our Lakepoint game than we did at several of our offsite games (there were lots of them at every site we played though). When he pitched at an offsite HS there were about 12-15 coaches there from Fla St, Duke, MD, VA, etc, etc. They were there to see the left handed pitcher and the catcher from the other team.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Most of these coaches are working from a list of players. They're moving from field to field to see the guys on their list. They don't have much time for just watching games and looking for undiscovered talent. If you go, you'll want your name known to schools that might be a good fit for you. That can happen through your coach, or through your own contact with coaches before going. There are plenty of schools from the west coast, but more are from the south, midwest and east coast.
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pnw2017 ·
Thanks Mk and Mid Atlantic, it makes sense to they have a list. I plan to reach out to the east coast schools that I think will be in attendance. How did your son talk to the coaches through phone or email to get them to watch a few games?
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bacdorslider ·
"90 percent d1 commits last year and their second team had 60 percent." discuss the schools with your travel team coach.... if he has done the above mentioned, you will be fine.
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c2019 ·
hrrm what about 15u ? at lake point
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MKbaseballdad ·
I agree with BDS - discuss with your coach and make sure they are working off the same list as you are and that he is contacting those schools. But you should also be contacting them. There are lots of threads here for you to look at to get an overview of what to do, how to contact, etc so it probably doesn't make a lot of sense to re-list here. There is a current thread open on cold calling coaches that you could look at with a lot of good advice on calling coaches. As a 2017 you are...
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pnw2017 ·
Makes sense. An rc from an east coast d1 told me it would be great to see me there, that they send 3 coaches to that event. He first saw me in az. He is recommending me to a team that goes, and the coach who runs it is also a rc at a d1 east coast, so he probably knows many of the eastern d1s.
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bacdorslider ·
good but not highly recruited... too young
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Sounds like a great start. Since the one RC knows you, I would send him a brief email with your number and a date/time that you plan to call him. That way he can put your name in his phone and know to pick up when you call. You can call him as often as you like, but he can't call you until July 1. Get to know the summer coach. He can act as a go-between. He can call/text you and say, "Call coach Smith right now, he's expecting your call."
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NotThatGuy ·
NTGson played WWBA as 14U, 15U, 16U and 17U. The growth in coaches in attendance grew exponentially as each year came and went. For younger players, the experience is invaluable: quality opponents, now great fields (East Cobb was nice, but nowhere near the quality venue Lake Point is), very good officiating and thrilling competition. If you play in the 16 or 17U WWBA, you must have done your homework as other posters have suggested. The schools in which you are interested have to know of...
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pnw2017 ·
Thanks, we have been communicating over the phone and text last few weeks. I am 2017, so I am able to receive texts and calls from him. Since I don't know if I will be able to go with the team yet, I can't contact the coach. I wonder how it sounds though, saying to a d1 hey call these other d1 coaches for me.
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tres_arboles ·
We did WWBA 15U the summer before son's Junior year. Son showed out and it lead to Sept 1 contacts from two major D1 programs (one East Coast and one West Coast). We didn't see coaches from either school there, but they clearly had eyes there because we had not contacted either prior to the tournament.
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MKbaseballdad ·
"I wonder how it sounds though, saying to a d1 hey call these other d1 coaches for me." You wouldn't have one of the D1 coaches you're in contact with calling other coaches - you'd have the D1 coaches you are contacting call your summer travel team coach to let them know when you should call them directly so they can pick up. The summer coach is the go between - he should be helping you get in front of D1 coaches and also helping you communicate with them up until July 1 when things free up...
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pnw2017 ·
The summer team coach is a d1 rc. And they can call me now too.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
I think PNW's issue is that his potential WWBA coach is the RC for a DI team. I don't have any experience with a situation like that. He probably needs to have a candid conversation with this coach about how he's done this with other recruits.
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pnw2017 ·
MidAtlanticDad, that's exactly correct. I am not sure how to approach it.
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MKbaseballdad ·
Sorry, I missed that part. I just re-read that part. Yes, that is tricky. My 2016's summer team (last two seasons) was coached by a D1 assistant coach. He was hands on and in regular contact with coaches on behalf of players but that was really during the summer season - not during the college season when he was coaching.
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RoyalRooter ·
From above, in general, it looks like 15U WWBA is a bit on the early side and 17U WWBA is a "must do" event. Doing a search here, the 16U WWBA was described closer to the 15U...but that post was years ago, so I don't know how accurate it is to today's environment. Can anyone speak more on the 16U WWBA? (i.e. What types and how many colleges tend to be at the 16U vs. the 17U? Is it more of a "must do" event for a certain level player but not for others?) Thank you!
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Bolts-Coach-PR ·
I feel, for a D-1 or D-2 prospective player the 16u WWBA is just probably as important, or even more so than the 17u these days... I can tell you, our 16u finished in the final-four, and at one game at LakePoint, we literally had hundreds of scouts and college coaches watching our guys... There was probably 1000 +/- people watching our game that night!
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Backyard ·
PG can be powerful for sure. Depending upon many things its not for everyone. You're son will be a needle in a haystack. They have tens of thousands of kids they're looking at any given weekend at tournaments alone. There showcases are 400-500 kids minimum. College coaches mostly incognito on sidelines so you never know if you may have caught an eye. 99% will leave the showcase and or tournament never hearing a word from anyone that might have seen them. 88 max velo is good but that will not...
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PGStaff ·
Backyard, Why not just go ahead and promote what you want. Because your information is wrong. Always have to wonder when a new poster brings an endorsement.
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redbird5 ·
Backyard, You could not be more wrong with your entire post. We are now all dumber about showcases for having read it.
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B-MoreBeast ·
Why not just post the meme Redbird?
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Truman ·
. . . that's one needle of a thousand in that haystack. And if that haystack is where I need to go to find a needle, then . . . .???
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Backyard ·
That's fine, It's no matter to me. I've personally been through these and know first hand so thought I'd offer. Simply posting to help kids, athletes and coaches.
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redbird5 ·
I have been through this as a parent and hundreds of times each year as a coach and my results are very different than yours, backyard.
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Montanabaseball ·
backyard -- everything I have read on this site is contrary to what you wrote. The original posters question is a good one tho. when should tournaments be utilized and when should showcases be used and what are the pros and cons of each?
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lionbaseball ·
I would highly recommend the Complete Showcase. Guaranteed a minimum amount of coaches (usually 30 but could be up to 100) and a maximum amount of participants. Your son will be evaluated by 2 college coaches but will be looked at by more. No more wondering if a college scout or coach will be at a game or whether you have to make the championship round to be seen.
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Louise ·
We have little experience but we have heard that unless your kid is D1 talent don't go to PG (other than the academic one) so whether true or not that rumor is out there!
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Enjoying the Ride ·
If he has never done a PG showcase, your son may want to attend at least one late spring/early summer to see where he is relative to his peers and get some updated video and verified numbers. If he does well enough, he could receive an invite to the PG National Showcase, which is loaded with college coaches who want to see the best match ups. As far as tournament play this summer, USA Baseball 17U National Team Championships (east or west), 17U WWBA, and an Area Code tryout if you can get an...
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Phanatic2008WS ·
Thanks for all the posts. My 2017 has been to two PG WWBA tournaments, but not to any of the PG showcases yet. That is what prompted my initial question about the value and relative pros and cons of PG run tournaments and showcases. At tournaments, the players are evaluated on game performances and that is always a hit or miss in my opinion (depending on where you play for example at Lakepoint or area HS fields, who you are playing, and who is watching you at any given point when you are...
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redbird5 ·
Phanatic, Comparing a PG showcase to a PG tournament is apples and oranges. Both are fruits and a necessary part of recruiting, IMO, but they accomplish different goals. The PG Tournament is where players show they can get out decent hitters, rather than simply striking out the same kid from a rival high school over and over. And, if they get hit a little bit, they can show their makeup....among other things. Their velo, command, etc. may or may not be noted. The PG Showcase is where they...
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Phanatic2008WS ·
Thanks for the reply Redbird5. I totally appreciate the feedback. Definitely worth looking at the tourneys and showcases as separate, that both feed into an equation. Also, point well taken about the "dad with rose colored glasses - not Oakleys". He was at 88 max (sitting around 86) but at a camp that most coaches there saw, but no recording via a neutral entity like PG. So that is needed. Thank you.
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PGStaff ·
Redbird, Thanks for the explanation, good one BTW. Often I want to say some of the same things, but am afraid it would come off the wrong way and people would think I am BSing. Phanatic, Sounds like your son could create some interest. So much depends on the other things once the velocity is recognized. Is that 86-88 look like the end or does it look like there is more to come in the near future? Are the other pitches usable now and how much can they improve? Can he pitch? I can tell you...
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MKbaseballdad ·
I would do the PG Northeast Showcase in June and set his measurables heading into the summer season. You'll have his velo numbers, PG rating, video and comparison with his class out there for anyone to see post-showcase plus you'll have whatever coaches are there watching him. Redbird has a lot more knowledge and experience than I do but my 2016 played with 2 RHPs with similar to your 2017 (one last year and one this year). Both had max velos 1 MPH below yours and sat/sit around the same and...
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RedFishFool ·
Get him to a PG Showcase, etc. It helps. Just saying!
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Phanatic2008WS ·
Thanks again for all the suggestions. I am convinced on the need for going to a PG showcase. PGSTAFF: appreciate all the nuances to stocking up player projections that come into play. Although challenging, over the course of many years, these intangibles that we refer to (body type, arm action, command, secondary pitch readiness, poise, ability to get batters out, etc) have coalesced with metrics (pitch velocity, spin rate, etc). Together they are better aids to project what a 16 year old...
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PGStaff ·
Phanatic, I suggest you contact me regarding your son. Don't worry I don't try to sell anything. I just think certain kids get the most out of certain situations or events and I would like to know more about your son. He does sound interesting based on your initial post. You can send me a private message as I doubt you want to discuss your son out here in the open.
 
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