11 professional scouts at a DIII game

MLB scouts miss on players all the time, alot of the fault comes from the college coaches who do not promote their players to MLB scouts and players doing dumb things by not playing in NCAA Certified Summer Leagues or hitting the MLb tryouts camps.

infielddad

You are sooooooo right !!!

And contrary to the "Pearls of Wisdom from Drivel" I have yet to meet a college coach who did not promote his players to scouts.

TR you need to get off the computer more often and attend some college games.

Alot of college coaches don't tell mlb scouts of their pro prospects that are juniors because they are afraid they will get drafted and sign.

The rocket scientists don't relize the best recruiting tool is to tell HS players how many players that were drafted from their college and how many players reached the Majors.

DRIBBLE

With all due respect to your infinite wisdom---you are wrong !!!!!

I would think that most MLB scouts in the region know who the players are to begin with---- talking to the coach only helps their information bank---I also do not agree with your feelings about college coaches not talking about a junior player just to keep him for another year

I am also curious as to why your sudden rash of posts getting on college coaches ???

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DRIBBLE
..I am also curious as to why your sudden rash of posts getting on college coaches ???

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banned from another campus?!?

Redbird so is your Little League team gonna make it to the LL World Series?


TR, just because you never heard of something does not mean it does not happen.

Alot of clueless people don't ask the player if he wants to sign after his junior year in college. They ask the college coach and the college coach will say no he wants to stay for his senior year, then they wonder why the player does not get drafted


If a player arrives on campus throwing 94 mph and some clueless coach messes with his mechanics and he nows throws 86-87 mph, and on the DL. if it aint broke, don't mess with it

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(1)Redbird so is your Little League team gonna make it to the LL World Series?


(2)...If a player arrives on campus throwing 94 mph and some clueless coach messes with his mechanics and he nows throws 86-87 mph, and on the DL. if it aint broke, don't mess with it

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(1) yawn..too bad you don't know more about me

(2) you spit out a lot of secondary info. You are a very poor baseball man's version of Mel Kiper. The problem is that you are so far down the line, the info gets screwed up. Either that or you don't know what you hear.

naw, redbird, you love me.

Mel Kiper does football thank you

DIBBLE

Answer the question Please---why you on the college coaches?????

Dibble,
What do your comments and accusations about what "a lot" of coaches do or don't do have in common with a post about one DIII coaching staff in Texas who work their tail off, identify good players and recruit them hard, love their kids, place them in the summer, promote them with scouts with 11 scouts showing up for a DIII game? If you want to trash, at least have some facts and pick an appropriate post to do it. I was pointing out good coaches doing good things and scouts doing their job no matter what the level.

some college coaches promote their players well some don't. How difficult is to send a college schedule and tell mlb scouts I have a player you need to see, when you have a prospect

infield dad

I reiterate what I said before--- you are sooooooooooo right !!!!

DRIVEL

"I told him "--- you must be kidding !!!!

Dibble

A player does not get drafted because the college coach told the MLB scout that he wanted to play his senior year --- hmmmmm...

Sounds a lot more like the scout backed off because he really wasn't that intertested to begin with. Of course the player does not like this scenario so tells everyone it was because of what the coach said.

Let's not be naive. If a scout is REALLY interested he's like a bulldog - if he gives up too easy - you can count on his interest being superficial to begin with.

Andy, Any scout that knew about a kid and asked coach his opinion on the kids draftability would look stupid. Any decent scout would go staight to the kid for answers. Also has a direct link to the coaches credibility if he lies.

Andy, you are really one bizarre person.

There may be a coach here and there that does not promote his players, but word travels from other coaches and other scouts about players. To think that a coach tries to protect players is outragous. Now a days with team web pages, message boards and other means of communication the only way to protect a player is to keep him on the bus.

My son will be attending a D-111 in Southern California next year. We've gone to several of the school's games this season and last and there is almost always a scout or two (or more) at every game. We've gotten to know one of them pretty well and he assures us that scouts search far and wide and if you can play, the division you are in doesn't mean much, especially if you're a pitcher. After all, the mound is the same distance from home plate in D-1, D-2, D-3 or JUCO

MLB scouts should ask a player or the player's dad DIRECTLY does he want to sign after his junior year. But some college coaches tell MLB scouts you can't directly talk to the his players. They view MLB scouts as someone that is gonna raid their roster.

Some college coaches are very helpful to MLB scouts and tell them I have one prospect or none, but you need to see this guy on another college.

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Originally posted by Dibble:
TR you need to get off the computer more often and attend some college games.

Alot of college coaches don't tell mlb scouts of their pro prospects that are juniors because they are afraid they will get drafted and sign.

The rocket scientists don't relize the best recruiting tool is to tell HS players how many players that were drafted from their college and how many players reached the Majors.

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Any scout who has to ask a College Coach who the prospects are should not be scouting. You can look on a team web site and find out what grade he is in an how old he is.

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Originally posted by Dibble:
MLB scouts should ask a player or the player's dad DIRECTLY does he want to sign after his junior year. But some college coaches tell MLB scouts you can't directly talk to the his players. They view MLB scouts as someone that is gonna raid their roster.

Some college coaches are very helpful to MLB scouts and tell them I have one prospect or none, but you need to see this guy on another college.

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I have been doing this a long time, and I call and talk to any player that I have interest in, and it has nothing to do with the College Coach. Some coaches are very helpful and some are not. It makes no difference to me......all I am interested in is the player.

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Originally posted by Dibble:
some college coaches promote their players well some don't. How difficult is to send a college schedule and tell mlb scouts I have a player you need to see, when you have a prospect

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I get my schedules off the internet.......have not sent for one from a college coach in years. I would just as soon not have the college coach know of my interest in his players anyway.

Next year my son will attend a DIII college whose head coach is a part-time pro scout ... do you think the coach will try to protect his best players from ... himself?