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I am trying to compile the 2007 verbals (from a # of sources). Any additions (or corrections) would be most appreciated:

Nov. 11, 2006 @ 11:15 p.m.

RICE:
Rick Hague (Klein) -- MIF
Matt Evers (Stratford) -- LHP
John Hale (Lamar) -- C
Chad Mozingo (Klein) -- OF
Carmen Angelini (Barbe, Lake Charles LA) -- MIF

U. OF TEXAS:
Cole Green (Coppell)-- RHP
Tant Shepherd (Flower Mound) -- CI
Kevin Keyes (Pflug. Connally) -- OF
Runey Davis (Georgetown) -- OF
Connor Rowe (Georgetown)
Brandon Workman (Bowie)-- RHP
Slayton Thomas (Corsicana) -- RHP
Cameron Rupp (Plana Prestwood) -- C

SAM HOUSTON:
Cody Springer (Montgomery) -- RHP
Justin Jackson (Magnolia) -- RHP
Kirk Pritchett (Milford) -- RHP
Braeden Riley (Woodville) -- INF/RHP
Dustin McCandless (Montgomery/Panola JC) --
Matt Shelton (Mansfield Timberview) -- RHP

TEXAS A&M
Kevin Aherns (Hou Memorial)-- INF
Aaron Daab (Katy) -- LHP
Andrew Nettune (Tyler) -- C
David Alleman (The Woodlands) -- OF
Will Middlebrooks (Libery Eylau) -- RHP/SS
Barrett Loux (Stratford) -- LHP
Brooks Dalely (Uvalde) -- RHP/OF
Nick Fleece (Ft. Worth Boswell)-- RHP
Eric Eiland (Hou Lamar) -- OF
Drake Britton (Tomball) -- LHP

U. OF HOUSTON
Chase Dempsay (Baytown Sterling)-- RHP/OF
Blake Kelson (Pflug.) -- MIF
Jared Ray (Waco Midway) -- RHP
David Murphy (Beaumont West Brook)-- 3B
Danny Hernandez (Temple) -- MIF
Ty Stuckey (Klein Collins)-- LHP

TCU:
Boogie Angnostou (La Porte) -- RHP/INF
Aaron Schultz (Klein Collins) -- OF
Zac Jordon (Ft. Bend Baptist) -- OF
Relly Mercurio (Bellaire) -- 1B
Taylor Parr (Woodlands) -- 1B
Greg Holle (Christian Bros-Albany, NY) -- P/OF
Sean Hoelscher (CC Calallen) -- RHP

TEXAS STATE:
Cody Gambill (Allen)-- OF
Brett Atwood (Katy) -- OF
Steven Vidaurri (Calallen) -- P/OF

TEXAS TECH:
Mickey Armstrong (The Woodlands) - C
Chad Bettis (Lubbock Monterrey)
Ryan Pressly (Carrollton Am Heritage) -- RHP

BAYLOR:
Chris Slater (Plano East) -- OF
Jon Ringenberg (Ft. Wayne, Indiana) -- RHP/SS
Ross Speed (Round Rock Westwood) -- RHP
Dan Evatt (Grapevine) -- 1B/OF

DALLAS BAPTIST
Josh Wilson (Canton)

UTSA:
Jason Pearch (Garland Naaman Forest) -- RHP
Taylor Carpenter (Mo. City Elkins) -- C
Brett Aguillar (SA Reagan)

UT-ARLINGTON
Adam Boydston (Lake Dallas) -- LHP

MCNEESE STATE:
Jake Rowell (LCM) -- C/1B)

ABILENE CHRISTIAN
Cameron Bankston (Burleson)

LAMAR:
Jeff Stringer (Bridge City) -- LHP

OLE MISS:
Tim Ferguson (Bmt. West Brook) -- MIF

LSU:
Johnny Dishon (Bridge City) -- OF
Micah Gibbs (Leander) -- C

ARKANSAS:
Kendall Korball (Langham Creek)-- RHP
Jacob House (Mansfield Timberview)
Brian Dixon (West Mesquite)
Brett Eibner (The Woodlands) -- OF
Conrad Flynn (Midland Lee) -- RHP

ARKANSAS STATE:
Tyler Stetzer (Rockwall) -- OF

OKLAHOMA:
Matt Hoffman (Owasso) -- RHP/OF
PJ Dean (New Caney) -- RHP/IF
Michael Rocha (Hays Consolidated) -- RHP
Ryan Duke (CC Calallen) -- RHP

STANFORD:
Jonathan Kaskow (Coppell)-- INF

VANDERBILT:
Chase Reid (Southlake Carroll)

MISSIOURI:
Russell LaFleur (Hou Morton Ranch) -- OF
Elroy Urbina (Hutto) -- LHP

U.S. MILITARY ACADEMY (WEST POINT)
Kane Kimrey
Cody Shorter (Klein Collins) -- C

U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY (ANNAPOLIS)
Zach Sipe (Huffman) -- RHP/OF

FURMAN:
John Patterson RHP/IF (Plano Prestonwood)
Kevin Smith (SA Christian) -- 3B

KANSAS STATE:
Carter Jurica (Katy) -- INF
Thomas Rooke (Oak Ridge) -- LHP/1B

BELMONT:
Derek Hamblen (Plano West)-- MIF

PACIFIC:
JB Brown (Brazosport) -- INF

CENTRAL FLORIDA
Hunter Hill (Prestonwood)
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In the late 1950's Robert Nettune's picture was taken on a fluke, when indeed Mr. Nettune's Aunt did not have the time to partake in such 'silliness'....A few years later, I think it was Mr. Nettune's great aunt or possibly his grand mother was looking at the advertisements for Gerber baby products and noticed the familiar face.

Dr. Nettune is a practicing ophthalmologist in Athens and the picture that you see today on Gerber baby products is that of Bob Nettune.

I stand by my claim although I may have erred in stating he was the original.
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They are signing a lot of bodies. Following the Nebraska recipe, I guess....Sign a lot, split up the money, and hope some of 'em pan out. Actually, their roster only shows 4 graduating seniors (although one of them was the only guy to hit above .300 -- Salazar). They did lose Kershaw to the draft but have a lot of kids coming in anyway. Gonna get crowded at College Station, and some kids may find their $$ dropping....
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Originally posted by UTPanAmAlum:
In the late 1950's Robert Nettune's picture was taken on a fluke, when indeed Mr. Nettune's Aunt did not have the time to partake in such 'silliness'....A few years later, I think it was Mr. Nettune's great aunt or possibly his grand mother was looking at the advertisements for Gerber baby products and noticed the familiar face.

Dr. Nettune is a practicing ophthalmologist in Athens and the picture that you see today on Gerber baby products is that of Bob Nettune.

I stand by my claim although I may have erred in stating he was the original.


Dr. Nettune is on of my wife's clients and she loves him to death. Says he is a great guy with that East Texas charm.
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Originally posted by 62tiger:
Heard Bussey from La Porte has backed away from A&M and is going to San Jac. Seems to be a lot of kids getting out of College Station as fast as they can.


A couple of stories floating out there on Jake Bussey. One is that his grades were suspect and he might not/couldn't get into school. Another is that he hooked up with a 'consultant' who convinced him he was better off going to JUCO and trying to get drafted (what do you think the 'consultant's' interest in that would be?). Hard to tell at this point...

Nevertheless, Bussey is gone and, like LHP recruit Kevin Angelle, will now be at San Jac.
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Originally posted by Dtiger:
62Tiger- I've heard many rumors about the situation down there with my dad being an ex-aggie. What is your impression? Or what is anyones impression of what is going on down there?


A&M is coming off a terrible year. Some of their top incoming freshmen (Kershaw, Angelle, Bussey) are now not coming to College Station for a variety of reasons. When you fire a guy who is a proven winner (Johnson) who was only making around 125K, and hire a guy with no head coaching experience (Childress) and pay him 500K, expectations are high. Going 25-30 with a team ave. of 25-30 doesn't cut it.

Solution? Blame the players, get rid of them and bring in the 'next' bunch of saviours. A&M is going to have to 'pick up the pace' with their 2007 crop or this scene will keep repeating itself (granted I think the commits from Aherns and Nettune are good signs for the Aggies but beyond that: there sure is a lot of talent out there that is still uncommitted and A&M sure did fill up their dance card in a hurry. You wonder how much $ they have left to spend).

I also need to say that I do like some of the kids coming in for the 2006 season. I think the Ehlert kid from East Texas was a 'steal' for them, for example. The Minks kid could develop into a top of the rotation pitcher and the Heard kid is simply a baseball guy. Even with the losses, the 2006 group is a good one (certainly appearing much better overall than the 2007 crop). We'll just have to see from there. Maybe the Ags have some surprises in store...
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Knowing the coaches at A&M on a personal level, I would say give it more than 1 year for evaluations. Let "their" recruits come in to tell the story.

It always amazes me to see people critique something they know so little about. Rob Childress did have head coaching experience and Matt Deggs is as good as they get.

But I guess that doesn't matter, it's easier to bad mouth something than it is to find out the facts.
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Knowing the coaches at A&M on a personal level, I would say give it more than 1 year for evaluations. Let "their" recruits come in to tell the story.

It always amazes me to see people critique something they know so little about. Rob Childress did have head coaching experience and Matt Deggs is as good as they get.

But I guess that doesn't matter, it's easier to bad mouth something than it is to find out the facts.


I should have said that Childress did not have any head coaching experience at any 4 year institution (D1, D2, D3). He did have 1 (one) year at a local Jr. College; otherwise, he has been an assistant. Forgive my omission....but the point remains the same: he has had precious little experience running a program as the top guy. That doesn't make him a bad guy (nor does it make him a bad baseball guy)...one just wonders if that makes him the guy to run a program in the Big 12.

As far as Matt Deggs goes, I am sure you have a personal relationship with him, like him, etc. By the same token, he is 'touted' as an offensive coach. You'd have to look pretty far to find a D1 school who had a worse offense last year than Texas A&M. They had 1 guy hit better than .300 (a transfer from Sam Houston who hit .308). Their offense was anemic.

I hope you don't mind those facts. Sometimes it is easier to put on rose colored (maroon colored?) glasses than face the facts....
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Originally posted by Waffle:
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Knowing the coaches at A&M on a personal level, I would say give it more than 1 year for evaluations. Let "their" recruits come in to tell the story.

It always amazes me to see people critique something they know so little about. Rob Childress did have head coaching experience and Matt Deggs is as good as they get.

But I guess that doesn't matter, it's easier to bad mouth something than it is to find out the facts.


I should have said that Childress did not have any head coaching experience at any 4 year institution (D1, D2, D3). He did have 1 (one) year at a local Jr. College; otherwise, he has been an assistant. Forgive my omission....but the point remains the same: he has had precious little experience running a program as the top guy. That doesn't make him a bad guy (nor does it make him a bad baseball guy)...one just wonders if that makes him the guy to run a program in the Big 12.

As far as Matt Deggs goes, I am sure you have a personal relationship with him, like him, etc. By the same token, he is 'touted' as an offensive coach. You'd have to look pretty far to find a D1 school who had a worse offense last year than Texas A&M. They had 1 guy hit better than .300 (a transfer from Sam Houston who hit .308). Their offense was anemic.

I hope you don't mind those facts. Sometimes it is easier to put on rose colored (maroon colored?) glasses than face the facts....


Again, wait until they have players to work with that they have recruited.

What makes you think that Childress and Deggs could turn a team around that struggled in years before their tenure. For the most part, same team, not their selected players. And by the way, that transfer SS... a DBAT guy. Oh, and Sulentic and Kershaw signees....DBAT guys.

Talk to me in 5 years. Unless, that is, your still complaining about the blueberries in your WAFFLES.

Peeking over my sun glasses regards,

KG
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Matt Deggs took over a struggling program at Texarkana JC and in 3 years had them in the JUCO World Series with fewer scholarships than most any team in their conference and/or region. Including San Jac, Navarro and Blinn. He will help produce a winner at A&M no doubt about it.

KG is right, this guy is good. One of the best coaches I have ever had the opportunity to coach against.
1. I don't get the point that some of the guys at A&M were DBAT guys. First, I think DBAT is great program and probably the best in the Dallas area. They are talented, well-coached, etc.

2. I don't doubt Deggs or Childress are good men, probably good coaches if put in the proper role.

3. I do disagree with the struggling program concept to some extent. In Johnson's last year at A&M, they were 30-25. The new coach gave them a 10 game swing ....downward. The year before? They were in the Super Regional. In Johnson's 20-plus years there, he had 1 losing season (2000). Childress has already tied him.

4. As far as taking over a program and needing time to let their 'own' recruits change things, that is an excuse, and a bad one at that. Drive a little further south and look what happened when an experienced head coach took over a program in much more disarray (and a lot less money than A&M's) -- Rice hired Wayne Graham. In his first year, Rice went from 16-34 to 29-26 and the rest, as they say, is history. That's how you turn around a program.

With that being said, this all got started because of some questions raised about A&M's recruits/verbal commits for this year. Others raised issues first about A&M. I hope A&M can rebound to some of the grandeur it had under Coach Johnson. It will make baseball in this State more competitive and more enjoyable. I wonder if Childress will schedule a home and home with Sam????
Exactly, Waffle. For the life of me I can't understand how a Super Regional indicates a struggling program. Mad

Johnson was the winningest coach in A&M history, & one of the best among the active coaches in all college ball. A real class act. But "Dollar Bill" wants to put in his own crew. So one "down" year was all the excuse Dollar Bill needed. Of course last year looks pretty good compared to this season.

I was very disappointed that the program was unable to hire a proven, top tier coach. But after the way Johnson was treated, it appeared to create some misgivings among their first cadre of candidates. They were unable to land any of their top choices. So now we can only hope that the new crew can adjust to their new roles & succeed.
This proves again, that discussing an issue with those who really don't understand the "behind the scenes" aspect of the game... will get you nowhere fast.

From the outside looking in, your comments may be justified. But if you justify the coaching change by a 10 game swing with a close to .500 team both before and after....only proves my point.

I'm sure Mark Johnson is a fine man. His history says so.

But let's give the new guys a chance to gather their own history. Unless you call 1 year a history.

For now, I will further hold my comments on the A&M coaching topic hoping to devote the thread back to the original purpose.
I'm sorry, KG. I forgot that you are the only person in the world with any baseball knowledge. Roll Eyes

Johnson's last years:
2005 30-25-1
2004 42-22 NCAA Super Regional
2003 45-19 NCAA Regional
2002 35-24
2001 33-27
2000 25-32
1999 52-18 Big 12 Championship, NCAA CWS
1998 46-20 Big 12 Championship, NCAA Regional
1997 37-21 NCAA Regional
1996 44-22-1

Yessir, that is a record that just SCREAMS clapping for a coaching change. Yep...

Yes, there was a fall off in 2000. But the overall trend after that year was certainly up. Looking at 2001 & beyond, 2005 was a glitch, not a trend.

His record at A&M: 876 victories, 433 losses, and three ties. Speaks for itself.

Again, best of luck to the new crew.
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
What makes you think that Childress and Deggs could turn a team around that struggled in years before their tenure.


I did read your posts, as you can see above. Did you or did you not post the above? Did someone hack in the system & post this for you?

"Struggled for years" - your words, are they not?

You're right, you didn't "debate whether or not Mark Johnson did well". You just said his program had "struggled for years".

Did my last post address your statement? Yep. Sure did.

'Nuf said.
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Originally posted by Texan:
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
What makes you think that Childress and Deggs could turn a team around that struggled in years before their tenure.


I did read your posts, as you can see above. Did you or did you not post the above? Did someone hack in the system & post this for you?

"Struggled for years" - your words, are they not?

You're right, you didn't "debate whether or not Mark Johnson did well". You just said his program had "struggled for years".

Did my last post address your statement? Yep. Sure did.

'Nuf said.


2 post season appearances since 1999 doesn't prove much success in my book.

Nuff said.
My Two Cents if either of you care.

I feel like the glory days of Texas and Texas A & M being the only two choices for a blue chipper have changed over the last 10 years.
Cause could be TV coverage or the media getting on the ball and giving other exposure or whatever to other programs. Winning a National Championship at Rice woke everyone up that it could happen anywhere.
There were many great coaches at many great schools that never got the exposure that the BIG TWO did. That has changed. Throw in the June draft taking signed prospects and signing following their junior year and a pitching staff can go dry in 1 year. It starts on the mound.
Junior Colleges have become more of an option as well with players now being more educated on their choices.
Maintaining greatness is harder now than ever in college baseball.
As George Bush would say "I think you are both correct in your own way!"
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You are correct. The Big 12 is a very good & tough conference. Add in the other major Texas schools (Rice, TCU, etc.) and this is a hot region for baseball. Not to mention San Jac & the other JUCO's.

That draft can hurt as well. If I recall properly, one year A&M had six pitchers drafted. Talk about wiping out your staff.

And then there is that wonderful scholarship allotment for baseball...
"Even with the losses, the 2006 group is a good one (certainly appearing much better overall than the 2007 crop). We'll just have to see from there. Maybe the Ags have some surprises in store..."


This is my first post, so I'm trying to get the hang of it.....

Waffle: As for the quote above as well as the one about the Chad Mozingo verbal to A & M as "Interesting",.. you obviously aren't up to speed on the local talent pool in Houston.

David Alleman is a top-notch outfielder who was a huge contributor to the Woodlands success, and Chad Mozingo chose A & M over the likes of Rice, LSU, Baylor, U of H, TCU and UNLV. He batted .389 for his Jr season in the tough 14 5a district (Woodlands, Klein Collins, Klein), was named to Texas Area Code, and is probably the only kid anywhere who can say he hit a grand slam off Kyle Drabek (in district play back in April). Barret Loux is a very good pitcher as well. So, to suggest that Ahrens and Nettune are the only legit kids, is simply not accurate in my opinion.

As for the coaching staff, I heard that a prominent pitcher who played for both Johnson (2 years) and Childress (1 yr) has endorsed the new staff with flying colors. He is moving on to the pros, but I can tell you that I heard that the only regret he has at A & M was that he didn't play for the new staff all three years. He said that these guys are very, very good, and predicts they will win big, and win soon.

Granted, it doesn't help that some great kids have changed their minds, or that Mitch Nelson (incoming Tomball pitcher) may miss his '07 season due to another injury...but point being...I have actually heard great things about thye future of A & M baseball.

Last thing...while the Aggies w/l record was not good last year, have a look at the number of 1-run losses. They didn't exactly get blown out...
Okay, I really hate to get back into the "let's rate the Aggies" since that seems to always cause a slew of posts (pro and con). On the other hand...

(1) Being the big fan of Childress that you are, then you must be troubled by the large number of 1-run losses. You'd think good coaching might make a difference in at least some of those games...

(2) Regarding the hearsay from 1 pitcher, I prefer to rely on some other objective facts such as the # of players transferring out of College Station. If it is so great to be there...

(3) The signing of Mozingo was interesting to me, not because he is not a quality player but because they need to sign some top-level pitching (and they had already signed a # of position players). Mozingo is a quality player. He is reasonably fast (as low as 6.7) with an average to above-average D-1 arm and bat. I have seen him play several times (both games and tryouts). No problem with his talent. I just thought A&M would go another direction.

(4) I do think the 2 best signs so far are Aherns and Nettune. Aherns may very well be the best hitter in Houston. He does not have 'great' foot speed but plays much faster and has a cannon of an arm from the left side of the infield. The biggest risk would be if he moves up as a high draft choice. As far as Nettune, the Aggies need a catcher (their catching was, at best, pathetic last year). Nettune is a top flight catcher now and should only get better. Right now, he is an upgrade there.

(5) I am not as big a fan of the Alleman sign. He is a very good HS player but, as a CF at that level, he is a 7.7 runner. At Area Code, nearly all (if not all) of the catchers ran faster. That is not a D-1 CF. He could DH or move to LF. He does switch hit, and that helps, but, again, I just think they could've spent their scholarship money in a more productive way.

(6) Loux is probably the most projectable sign of the pitchers. Raley and Daab are low velocity guys (82-85) and, while good HS pitchers, I think the jury is out on their ability as D-1 guys. Loux is not a true velocity guy, either, but he does have the body to grow into and develop that type of power. I think Middlebrooks (who I haven't seen much) could be a true sleeper. He has a live arm and some athletic ability to go with it.

(7) I do stand by my earlier comment that I like the 2006 class better (even with the loss of Bussey from La Porte).

Lastly, I understand that I probably ought to move this to another thread "Aggies -- love 'em or hate 'em". Actually, I have feelings neither way although I do know several kids who are (or are going) there to play. This is just my evaluation of how their recruiting season is going so far.

And I'd love for the Aggies to return to the prominence they enjoyed in the Johnson years. It would be a huge plus for Texas collegiate baseball.

And, geez, I know I'm gonna regret opening this can of worms.........
Waffle,

Did you mean Brooks Raley from Uvalde rather than Daley? My son played with his brother Russell Raley at OU and I met Brooks this past year. I had heard that he was a pretty good pitcher and at the time was undecided about his college commitment. I would say the Aggies are definitely getting a pretty good one if it is indeed Brooks Raley.


Ann
Waffle, I think you are on to something concerning A&M. Mozingo is a wonderful player, but it appears to me the Ags need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. With the NCAA going to 5 games a week, how can Childress not go after more pitching. There are two young men, Drake Britton and Ty Stucky, that from what I understand were very interested in A&M. In fact I talked to both dads and they were at one time expecting an offer. But the word on the street is that A&M wouldn't pony up to the bar and even get close to what other schools were offering. Hopefully for the Ags it works out, but I'm one Aggie that would have loved to have seen one (or both) of those lefties pitching from the mound at Olsen Field.

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