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@Master P posted:

The pitching injuries are an epidemic. And it’s the result of the way pitchers are being trained. Often by people that are not qualified to be doing the training. The focus on maximum effort, maximum velocity, and maximum spin rates are off base. And this is being promoted by people ghat have never played baseball. The body is not designed to stand up to that. It could not be more idiotic.

I agree with @adbono. The arm/shoulder is a smaller muscle and takes more time to develop. When there's a fight for playing time everyone is training as hard as they can, but who is promoting the importance of rest/recovery? The body needs time and nutrients to build tissue. Sleep is crucial. I know of some programs that have their players where body monitors to better track sleep and I bet they've found it quite effective in reducing injuries.

While the blame is usually on the coaches and trainers, IMO,  blame also could go to the player for not speaking up sooner. In son's case he had recurring issues and his agent finally fought for him to seek a better opinion.

That surgeon moved the ulnar nerve and he was fine. By that time he was ready to move on.

Bottom line is if you throw hard and long enough, TJS is inevitable.

JMO

@Momball11 posted:

I agree with @adbono. The arm/shoulder is a smaller muscle and takes more time to develop. When there's a fight for playing time everyone is training as hard as they can, but who is promoting the importance of rest/recovery? The body needs time and nutrients to build tissue. Sleep is crucial. I know of some programs that have their players where body monitors to better track sleep and I bet they've found it quite effective in reducing injuries.

My son uses a Whoop and I know a lot of programs that make all their players use them.  When my son first started using it he said he was shocked.  He thought he was getting a LOT more sleep than he actually was.  One of his friend's programs uses the Whoop to monitor all the players sleep, alcohol/drug use, etc.

@adbono posted:

The pitching injuries are an epidemic. And it’s the result of the way pitchers are being trained. Often by people that are not qualified to be doing the training. The focus on maximum effort, maximum velocity, and maximum spin rates are off base. And this is being promoted by people ghat have never played baseball. The body is not designed to stand up to that. It could not be more idiotic.

The quest for high 90s is mind boggling. It’s obvious it’s where arm’s can’t handle the stress. I’ll take the pitcher who throws 93-95 with command where he can knock the zit off a gnat’s ass. This kind of pitcher is more likely to last the season.

Remember Nick Burdi? He threw 97 for Louisville. Scouts thought he would go straight to the majors. He was drafted in 2014. Over ten years he’s pitched 25 MLB innings around his annual trip to the IL.

Nick Burdi was the college pitcher who convinced my son he should be wearing an arm guard. My son couldn’t lift his arm for three days.

@Master P I've heard good things about Whoop. I know one team that realized a pitcher wasn't getting quality sleep. They sent him to a sleep specialist and he was diagnosed with sleep apnea. He got a cpap machine and that made a huge difference.

I know some are wanting an update about my son. He's trying to make the best of what he can with this year. He's optimistically continuing to practice, knowing he'll probably never get a fair shot of playing this spring. He said he hit well in practice, as usual. Continuing to make solid contact and is just destroying the ball. He's now mentally thinking everything he does is training/practice for summer. He found the positive to not traveling with the team is the sheer number of reps he can get by staying back. He has supportive teammates that are willing to throw him some live pitching, lift weights, run sprints, etc. He's also using the time to get ahead with his school work. His grades are looking really good this semester. Apparently practice today was only for travelers, so he'll do his own thing. This might be the new norm. Saddens me that one would turn away someone that wants to put in the time to improve and prove that they should should be a starter.

I'm hoping his summer team will give him a fair shot of playing.  His current school does not deserve any credit to his development. The only credit I'd give them is showing him that life is unfair and that there are still people out there who think it's okay to mock someone's race. His development can be credited to his own time and dedication and his teammates who have pushed him.

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