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Act like a major leaguer

T TG500+ posts
Did anyone else notice Lilly take off his glove and slam it on the ground when he gave up a homer. He looked like a spoiled ten year old Little Leaguer on the mound. Act like a professional!



For those who might be confused this was my original post ....

"Thank you Lou"

"It sure is embarassing to throw your glove on the mound like that" .... Piniella referring to Lilly acting like a LL'er on the mound giving up a dinger.

A professional should act like a professional.
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PopTimePopTime500+ posts
Are you kidding? Look at some video of some of Piniella's arguments with umpires, or press conferences. He shouldn't have thrown his player under the bus like that when in the past he's been ten times worse. I found his comment laughable.
I already hear Cubs fans rationalizing that they want to "wait 'til next year" anyway so the 2008 World Series will coincide with the 100 year anniversary of the last time they won it.
T TG500+ posts
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Originally posted by PopTime:
Are you kidding? Look at some video of some of Piniella's arguments with umpires, or press conferences. He shouldn't have thrown his player under the bus like that when in the past he's been ten times worse. I found his comment laughable.
I already hear Cubs fans rationalizing that they want to "wait 'til next year" anyway so the 2008 World Series will coincide with the 100 year anniversary of the last time they won it.
Arguing with umpires is part of the game. It's an act of sticking up for the players. A pitcher throwing down his glove like a LL'er isn't. I noticed when it happened and shook my head. I would have commented without Piniella's input. I just happened to look up at the TV when Piniella was asked about it.

Add: I love the Aquafina ad.
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TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
There's a difference between arguing with an umpire and having a hissy fit.

I think the throwing of the glove was wrong but with his past history, he should have kept the discussion between him and his player.

All professionals would act like professionals, there should be no distinction.

JMO.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
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Originally posted by PopTime:
Are you kidding? Look at some video of some of Piniella's arguments with umpires, or press conferences. He shouldn't have thrown his player under the bus like that when in the past he's been ten times worse. I found his comment laughable.
I already hear Cubs fans rationalizing that they want to "wait 'til next year" anyway so the 2008 World Series will coincide with the 100 year anniversary of the last time they won it.


I agree with Poptime. Lilly should not have thrown the glove but it did not bother me that much. Lou Pinella is obviously good at calling the kettle black. Arguing with umpires is one thing, kicking dirt on them is childish and a poor example for youngsters.
jmepopjmepopHSBBWeb Old Timer
C'mon give Lilly a break, he just gave up a dinger that was a backbreaker for the Cubs, does it look professional, no, but in the heat of the moment during the LDS I think it could be considered understandable. If he did it all the time then it could be considered LL but one time I can let it slide.

Pinella shouldn't have brought it up in public, that is a office discussion if it needs to be mentioned at all.
B Bee>1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by PopTime:
Are you kidding? Look at some video of some of Piniella's arguments with umpires, or press conferences. He shouldn't have thrown his player under the bus

CD says: I agree with Poptime. Lilly should not have thrown the glove but it did not bother me that much. Lou Pinella is obviously good at calling the kettle black. Arguing with umpires is one thing, kicking dirt on them is childish and a poor example for youngsters
allow me to point out the obvious - Roll Eyes

if ya study Lou's history, examine the "Lilly comments", and watch the aquafina ad -
only ONE conclusion can be reached ..

Lou has a sense of theatre, a sense of humor, loves sarcasm,

AND his tongue was firmly "in cheek" commenting on Lilly


btw, Wedge should'a kicked dirt on PU Bruce Froemming last night 4 squeezing CC
prolly would'a needed a backhoe


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ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
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Lou has a sense of theatre, a sense of humor, loves sarcasm, AND his tongue was firmly "in cheek" commenting on Lilly


If that is the case, then I stand corrected. I didn't actually hear Lou make the comment. This is a prime example (if lou was using sarcasim) where the written word does not convey the same message as the spoken word.
T TG500+ posts
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Originally posted by JT:
Batters slam their helmets and bats down all the time...and don't seem to get criticized. So why not pitchers slamming gloves?
(OK, not a legit question)...
...I was shocked when I saw it...and a 10 year old temper tantrum was what immediately came to my mind, too.
I don't recollect seeing hitters windup and slam dunk helmets and bats in frustration at the plate. I've seen plaenty flipped down in disgust. A lot of helmets and bats get flung in the dugout. A lot of pitcher's gloves get tossed off the back wall. But that's the dugout.
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O Orlando1,000+ posts
There are teams with that sort of personality --- the Cubs, under Baker, became a "demonstrative" Roll Eyes team, and the hiring of Pinella wasn't going to change that. A player with any sort of propensity to tantrums isn't going to employ self-restraint in that atmosphere.

TG, Delmon Young springs to mind. Although that incident was in the minors, it didn't slow his promotion.
T TG500+ posts
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Originally posted by Orlando:
There are teams with that sort of personality --- the Cubs, under Baker, became a "demonstrative" Roll Eyes team, and the hiring of Pinella wasn't going to change that. A player with any sort of propensity to tantrums isn't going to employ self-restraint in that atmosphere.

TG, Delmon Young springs to mind. Although that incident was in the minors, it didn't slow his promotion.
It slowed him down for fifty games. But that's a whole other set of circumstances. Had Young just slammed his bat down he would have been in a lot less trouble. I also wonder how Young would have been handle in a well run major league organization. I think all Young learned is a player can act whatever way he wants as long as he can play. Then he becomes a role model for behavior doesn't matter.

If a minor league pitcher reacted the way Lilly did, do you think it would be in the manager's nightly report regarding his composure?
Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
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Did anyone else notice Lilly take off his glove and slam it on the ground when he gave up a homer. He looked like a spoiled ten year old Little Leaguer on the mound. Act like a professional!


I saw it. I half expected him to fall to the ground on his stomach, kicking and pounding the dirt, only to quickly exit the field with clay caked tear stains on each cheek, have his mom clean him up and take him to DQ for a cone.

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PopTimePopTime500+ posts
What do you suppose is the percentage of pitchers who throw their gloves, punch the Gatorade container, kick the trash barrel ect... in the dugout in full view of the t.v. cameras after a bad outing? I've never heard anyone really care about that. Where do you suppose the majority of eyes were at the moment Lilly threw his glove down? That's right, following the ball. I'm not condoning it, I just don't think it's that bigga deal.
As far as Piniella's arguing, I agree it's definately part of the game but he's had some really bombastic tirades that make him look plain silly. You'd never see Torre, Francona, Randolph ect, managers with class do things like throw bases, kick dirt at umpires, whatever. And for Piniella to comment as he did makes him a hypocrite to the enth degree, certainly not someone who was "sticking up for his player".
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
I know one personally. Frown

He didn't get in trouble for it,but did because he banged his FOOT and HAND against the wall. Should have thrown the glove. Wink

He says he didn't know the camara was on him. Roll Eyes

He has been instructed to never do it again.

I do not like that behavior, not one bit, neither do a lot of people, but it's hard to understand unless you have been in a pressure cooker situation, how you would react.

And poptimeis right, so many excuse dugout behavior, why is this different?

JMO.
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Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
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I'm not condoning it, I just don't think it's that bigga deal.


It's probably not that a bigga deal to anyone but the opposing team that smells blood 10 miles away. He showed his azz and told the The DBacks "You own me." He gave up 3 more runs before leaving, turning a 3-2 game into a 6-2 game. Results matter. If the Cubs win he is a firey pitcher. They lost so he's something else. Slamming a glove into the rubber raises eyebrows at any level. The Cubs obviously aren't going anywhere.
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G gotwood4sale10,000+ posts
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