@SpeedDemon posted:Yes, all those additional flights and miles do add to carbon emissions.
How dare you!
I’m being humorous. Let’s not get political.
That won't work Consultant. To get in-state tuition his minor in that program is agriculture. So the class is the same for multiple minors until the final which is speech that has to be about his minor. So, I guess he will have to come up with something agricultural related to talk about for 3-5 minutes next May.
Pitching Fan;
Your son can research the "Iowa Farm Boy" [Bob Feller}. No "radar guns" when he pitched. They used a motor bike to time the pitch.
Bob
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Colorado coach Deion Sanders sees some hypocrisy in this week’s conference realignment chaos.
“All of this is about money,” he said Friday. “You know that. It’s about the bag. Everybody’s chasing the bag. Then you get mad at the players when they chase it. How is that? How do the grownups get mad at the players for chasing it when the colleges are chasing it?”
@TPM posted:Your point exactly?
My point is that some people have empathy and others don't.
Some people value the sacrifices students make to play high level college sports, others don't.
Some people believe athletes are people to be valued, not commodities to be traded.
Some people who believe the former are high level college football coaches who see that price of realignment will be paid by the athletes while the reward will be reaped by the colleges. They have called out the hypocrisy of people who deny this reality.
Colorado coach Deion Sanders sees some hypocrisy in this week’s conference realignment chaos.
“All of this is about money,” he said Friday. “You know that. It’s about the bag. Everybody’s chasing the bag. Then you get mad at the players when they chase it. How is that? How do the grownups get mad at the players for chasing it when the colleges are chasing it?”
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Football is the bus that is driving all other college sports right over the cliff. Some people of some importance are calling attention to this. Other people of some importance are blatantly ignoring it.
@SpeedDemon posted:My point is that some people have empathy and others don't.
Some people value the sacrifices students make to play high level college sports, others don't.
Some people believe athletes are people to be valued, not commodities to be traded.
Some people who believe the former are high level college football coaches who see that price of realignment will be paid by the athletes while the reward will be reaped by the colleges. They have called out the hypocrisy of people who deny this.
Oh ok.
@adbono posted:All this conversation about travel is silly. Has everyone forgotten about carbon emissions?!? Oh, the horror! Of course all these teams will travel by electric vehicles. Especially in California. Anything less would be a threat to our democracy!
They can offset it by eating veggie burgers at team meals🤣
@baseballhs posted:They can offset it by eating veggie burgers at team meals🤣
There is the appropriate response! Only took a week!
So now it's P4.
Another Parent;
Pac 2, going,going, gone!!!
Bob
Most did it to themselves, by not accepting the revenue offered, if I read it right.
@TPM posted:Most did it to themselves, by not accepting the revenue offered, if I read it right.
The deal was terrible financially and exposure wise. The PAC 12’s first deal wasn’t so hit either. Aside from being mediocre financially for the schools it was bad for exposure. The only way to get the PAC12 Network was to get a provider that carried it. The PAC 12 refused to provide Direct To Customer. The new deal was going to force viewers to have an Apple TV+ subscription.
From a baseball standpoint I wonder how much Oregon State recruiting will be affected by being forced to a mid major conference … likely Mountain West.
@RJM posted:The deal was terrible financially and exposure wise. The PAC 12’s first deal wasn’t so hit either. Aside from being mediocre financially for the schools it was bad for exposure. The only way to get the PAC12 Network was to get a provider that carried it. The PAC 12 refused to provide Direct To Customer. The new deal was going to force viewers to have an Apple TV+ subscription.
From a baseball standpoint I wonder how much Oregon State recruiting will be affected by being forced to a mid major conference … likely Mountain West.
Have to believe it will affect Cal, SMU and Stanford recruiting too.
Because great to play Wake and Duke, but traveling 3000 miles weekly to play? Against Rutgers and BC?
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I saw it reported a couple of days ago that the ACC hoped to lessen the travel for sports other than football and basketball by scheduling multi-team, weekend tournaments between East Coast and West Coast members. According to the report, these tournaments would be hosted by SMU in Dallas.
That's right, the same SMU that has NO baseball or softball program.
Would someone who lives in Dallas please check the 2025 schedule of the Dallas Parks and Recreation Department to see if any baseball and softball fields might be open between February and May to host some weekend college games?
It's no big deal, really. It's just teams like Boston College, Cal, Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Stanford, Virginia, and Wake Forest.
Since none of their fan bases are within 500 miles, there will be no need for stands. Lawn chairs outside the chain link fence will suffice.
If true, I have a pretty good idea how some of the affected coaches have reacted to this news.
Again, if true, how ridiculous has this landscape become? 
We ought to just blow it up and start over.
I don't see FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, Louisville, WF, or Virginia giving up their sold out crowds to play in Dallas in baseball. I heard they would play a double weekend series on the road where they would go to the west coast and play 2 weekends back to back and get in a midweek series also. I believe Clemson will jump ship along with probably UNC, FSU, and Virginia since they continually play teams in the SEC already. 3 of those started their football season against SEC teams.
@Prepster posted:We ought to just blow it up and start over.
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@SpeedDemon posted:Have to believe it will affect Cal, SMU and Stanford recruiting too.
Because great to play Wake and Duke, but traveling 3000 miles weekly to play? Against Rutgers and BC?
🧐
Definitely tough for the higher level California recruits. Your primary options are to either attend a school thousands of miles away (and depending on conference, maybe have a CA series once a season), or stay "local" and have a brutal travel schedule.
I believe it was someone at Cal that made the comment about Olympic sports games hosted in Dallas to ease the travel burden. I highly doubt this plays out for baseball, particularly with no baseball program at SMU. Perhaps for other sports, but I have no idea how scheduling works for track & field, swimming, diving, etc. Now, if someone at UNC, FSU, Clemson, NC State were to comment on some centrally located games...
It will be interesting to see how the ACC handles the baseball divisions. It would seem to make sense that they would be in different divisions to spread that travel burden of the east coast teams more evenly. However, having Cal and Stanford only play each other in conference play every other year seems strange.
My (uncorroborated) source was Ross Dellenger, formerly with Sports Illustrated and now the senior college football writer for Yahoo Sports. Specifically, he wrote, "New details of the ACC's travel proposal: Under one component that still needs formalization, Eastern members & two new Western members would meet in Dallas to conduct competition in Olympic sports, sources tell @YahooSports."
We can only hope that baseball and softball escape "formalization."
I can't for the life of me understand why SMU is leaving the AAC for the ACC, it's not for the $$, they won't get for awhile. Perhaps just for recruiting.
Maybe they still live in the glory days before they got the death sentence?
@Prepster posted:I saw it reported a couple of days ago that the ACC hoped to lessen the travel for sports other than football and basketball by scheduling multi-team, weekend tournaments between East Coast and West Coast members. According to the report, these tournaments would be hosted by SMU in Dallas.
That's right, the same SMU that has NO baseball or softball program.
Would someone who lives in Dallas please check the 2025 schedule of the Dallas Parks and Recreation Department to see if any baseball and softball fields might be open between February and May to host some weekend college games?
It's no big deal, really. It's just teams like Boston College, Cal, Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Stanford, Virginia, and Wake Forest.
Since none of their fan bases are within 500 miles, there will be no need for stands. Lawn chairs outside the chain link fence will suffice.
If true, I have a pretty good idea how some of the affected coaches have reacted to this news.
Again, if true, how ridiculous has this landscape become?
There’s no need for stands at Boston College home games. They average about 200 per game.
It’s amazing the PAC 12 couldn’t put together a decent television package. It’s what killed the conference. Seven teams are in the football top twenty-five.
@RJM posted:It’s amazing the PAC 12 couldn’t put together a decent television package. It’s what killed the conference. Seven teams are in the football top twenty-five.
The lack of a linear TV package wasn't the only thing that killed the conference...that was just the last bad decision in a long series of bad decisions. The conference collapsed due selfishness, greed and hubris on the part of the university presidents.
This is the definitive article on what happened (no paywall):