Another Article in the Wash Post on Parents vs Coaches

Feeder program is ok, but no way am I gonna let hard raised funds for the HS team to pay for it, let the coach do it seperately, or the parents interested in joining that team.

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Originally posted by anotherplayerforteam:
Coach Waltrip- you are completely correct. What the LAX coaches did was wrong absolutely, positivelt 100%. All I was saying was that the mom and her daughter should share a portion of the blame for what they did.

dub-L-Play- you have not listened to a word I have said. I don't know if it is because I am a kid, or because you are as stubborn as a mule, but your opinion has not changed one bit since your first post. I am trying to tell you what actually happened, yet you refuse to listen to what I am saying. If you do not want to be civil, then why are you arguing with me? Do you feel good about trying to make me look bad? If you want to know what I am saying, read my posts on the thread without whatever bias you have against TC, our AD, and/or boosters organizations. At least greenmonstah had the sense to understand the conversation should stop where it did with him.

I have listened to you and I have been civil.
I guess I don't understand your logic. The coach was planning to stuff the ballot box - I have no idea why Gordon or the daughter should bare any responsibility.

Your coach was out drinking on a school trip with high school girls and apparently got into a fight protecting them from a creep. I get it. What you don't get, is, everywhere in this country, this Coach would be fired.

So to back track, is this administration corrupt? Yes. you have not changed my mind. sorry.

I have no bias against TC Williams, just against corrupt administrations.

Again, the coach say the girl who was supposed to be sick at the time at a basketball game, and not looking very sick. Anywhere in the country, that girl would be cut. Gordon ended up bearing no responsibility because only her daughter was cut- she could have continued with her position in the boosters if she wanted to.

Our AD not firing the coach doesn't mean the school is corrupt. Not one reliable source told the AD that our coach did that; it was solely allegations from a parent who had previously said some things about the coach that weren't true. These continued in that path. Even if the coach did that, the administration not firing him isn't corruption, it would just be irresponsible. The coach was a first- year coach, not a teacher, and with absolutely zero other ties to TC. So could the administration be irresponsible? Yes. Corrupt? No.

Looks like I side with the parent who knew that this coach was bad news. You have just confirmed it is true, so I guess this parent is crazy too?

I'll bet the kid gets cut. Because that seems to be the M.O. for this school.

Ya know, something just hit me. How do you know what was discussed with the AD? Why do you know what was discussed with the AD?

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Originally posted by dub-L-play:
Looks like I side with the parent who knew that this coach was bad news. You have just confirmed it is true, so I guess this parent is crazy too?

I'll bet the kid gets cut. Because that seems to be the M.O. for this school.

Ya know, something just hit me. How do you know what was discussed with the AD? Why do you know what was discussed with the AD?

Why does this kid know what goes on in the AD's office? Either the AD is talking, the coach is talking or this kid ain't a kid. hmmm. A true mystery.

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Originally posted by anotherplayerforteam:


You won't drop that he was at a bar. I am pretty sure you only had to be 18 to get into the nightclub, and 21 to get into the bar. They are not one in the same. All of the girls were 18. The coach is over 21. It was also the only nightclub within ten miles of our condos, however ridiculous that sounds. My facts are all true. You, however, are making assumptions on which you have no proof. Maybe he was wrong to be at te bar in the first place- but is that really that important? That is the only thing he did wrong.

Our coach was brought in to talk to the AD, and from what I have heard, a parent has consistently been accusing him of things that are not true. I am going solely on things that have been told to me by others who have inside knowledge of the situation. I don't know who the parent is, but I bet the kid won't get cut. A large portion of the reason why the LAX girl was cut was because she lied to the coaches face, and that is a fact. Her mom blew up about it, and found some stuff that incriminated the coaches. ..., obviously you don't think I am a kid. You have made that point already. I am sure you know things that go on in your school's athletic department, but you don't work there (I assume). You hear things by word- of- mouth, which is the same way I hear things.

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Originally posted by anotherplayerforteam:
Our coach was brought in to talk to the AD, and from what I have heard, a parent has consistently been accusing him of things that are not true. I am going solely on things that have been told to me by others who have inside knowledge of the situation. I don't know who the parent is, but I bet the kid won't get cut. A large portion of the reason why the LAX girl was cut was because she lied to the coaches face, and that is a fact. Her mom blew up about it, and found some stuff that incriminated the coaches. ..., obviously you don't think I am a kid. You have made that point already. I am sure you know things that go on in your school's athletic department, but you don't work there (I assume). You hear things by word- of- mouth, which is the same way I hear things.

My son has no idea if his coach is being called in to the Ad's office and what the conversation is about. He could care a less. He is there to play ball. This is disturbing. The mere fact that you know this, is a sign of why this school is being sued.

A parent who goes to the AD about a coach that obviously is expanding the boundaries of common sense (drunk on the job), like yours, should be able to talk to AD without a player being privy to it.


This could be why your school is being written about in the Washington Post. Which brings us full circle.

I don't believe for a second "Another" is a kid. My kid isn't dumb. But he only knows what goes on in the dugout, in the locker room and on the field. As far as agitant parents he knows they exist and doesn't care. It's not about the game. It would affect his focus to get involved in the bs.

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Originally posted by Vicarious Dad: Does Virginia have limits for number of seasons a student may play? Will this girl have to sit out her senior year?

This is from the Virginia High School League Eligibility Requirements:


2. Grade Rule - You must be enrolled in the last four years of high school. Eighth-grade students may participate in high school academic activities and at the sub-varsity level in high school athletic activities for one year only while in the eighth grade without affecting high school eligibility.

4. Age Rule - You must not have reached your 19th birthday on or before the first day of August of the current school year.

Our cash strapped county does not offer middle school baseball, so under these regulations, my 8th grade son can try out for the high school JV team. However, no matter how good he is, he will not be able to play with the varsity team since he would not be in his last 4 years of high school. Our high school routinely takes 3-5 8th graders for the JV team so these players could play for the school for 5 years. The age rule will eliminate those who have repeated more than one year/grade.

Private schools are probably governed differently. That said, my son has two very good friends who left public school to attend private schools for various reasons, but the biggie was to be 'guaranteed' a spot on a baseball team.

So if the child in question wants to play a sport, and the parents have the means to send their child to a boarding school to the tune of $36-40,000 year (actual figures for St. Ann's Belfield and St. Margaret's in Virginia-both around 2 hrs from Alexandria) so the child can fullfill that dream, it is certainaly a choice that many families don't have.

20dad is correct in that many of the private/boarding schools are hurting in this economy and are very willing to accept your child and your money.

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a parent has consistently been accusing him of things that are not true.

Good lord how much worse could it be? Your coach was drunk on the job and partying with the female students at a bar and got into a fight. You confirmed that. What could this parent say to possibly top that?

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"What could this parent say to possibly top that?"

How about this?

"Our coach thinks all that talk about global warming is a bunch of hooey!"

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"...expanding the boundaries of common sense (drunk on the job)."

That's a good one!


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Obviously, I am not your son. This has gone too far. All I can say is, I was trying to add the side of the story that wasn't shown in the story. Obviously, no one wanted to hear that.

You can't believe everything you read.

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Obviously, I am not your son.

You're right. Good athletes focus on the game and tune out the external bs.

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"You can't believe everything you read."

If that is what you have learned from participating in this anotherplayerforteam, then you have learned a very valuable lesson. Your statement is indeed true and I agree with it absolutely!

Couple that with...

"There are always two or more sides to a story."

...and you will be well equipped to go down the road of life.

A reminder: Don't dismiss tampering with ballot boxes...that is never acceptable!

Much success to you.





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Let's hope this kid really reads this and wont be so quick to defend actions that are clearly wrong. It takes a lot of courage for people to stand up for what is right.

To assume that Gordon was not trying to do a thorough job as Treasurer is not fair.
And for the parent that tried to talk with the AD about your Coach, who knows what the motives are, but the facts are the facts, and your coach is unfit to lead teenagers.

You have found that people from all over the U.S. do not defend blindly, and nor should you.

Good Luck and stay out of the BS

I go away for a day and missed all this.

Heads up folks. Looks like that lacrosse mom was right. The TC basketball team had to forfeit every single win they had this season because they had ineligible players on the team. The AD knew or should have known about it. He was responsible for clearing players and he put two illegal five year senior transfers on the team. They were the high scorers. It's in all the local newspapers. The AD's name is Robert McKeag and the school is trying to blame the AD before him but no one is fooled. There is proof the illegal kids came on after the old AD left the job and this McKeag guy cleared them to play.

Boy don't I know it! My family has been subjected to much the same only maybe not on this scale. And giving the reason the mayer became AD was because he had kids in the school would to me actually be the biggest reason for him not to. My son's class right now has a assistant baseball & football coaches son on the baseball and football team (though he is very talented I must admit) as well as another assitant football coaches son on again the baseball & foorball team (not so talented in baseball and okay in football). In fact, the football team lost the best quarterback in the state because he was reduced to special teams while the assistant football coaches son became 1st string quarterback. We can't even make it past round 1 in the play offs now where as we used to always make it to the championship game while the school we lost the other quarterback to has had their best season in years making it to the playoffs for the 1st time in many.

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Originally posted by dub-L-play:
I will read it. But fair or not, the facts are what they are. Coaches scheming to oust kids, parents etc from programs with the full knowledge and consent of the AD, Principal and the School Board is deplorable.

Good to know the Mayor/AD can get his kid a Crew Scholarship. All I can say is WOW.

You seem to be supportive of your school which is great, but turning a blind eye to corruption will not advance anyone. And you are sadly correct that this kind of stuff goes on all over. So sad for the athletes who are political pawns in a demented power struggle.

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Originally posted by anotherplayerforteam:
I would like to see another example other than a biased article and a shaky inference that shows ACPS is corrupt. I only am showing the side of the story that the AD would have taken if he had been interviewed fairly. It is unfair to say that our AD and Principal are corrupt solely based on one article.

I just found the another article on TC Williams basketball season.

here it is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2010020201776.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2010020104097.html