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Miami hits a grand slam to put away a trip to the CWS. The hitter flips his bat (no problem). Approaching home the hitter starts doing a dance in front of the catcher. The catcher says something. The hitter turns and verbally taunts the catcher. The benches clear.

Alex Cora, a former MLBer said the hitter had no business yelling at and taunting the catcher as he approached the plate. I'd like to see someone try to put a good spin on verball taunting as part of celebration. Alex Cora: He diminished a great moment in the program's history 

How did I know emulating pros would push some jackass to go over the top?

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Go44dad posted:

Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis agrees with you!

Landis 3

You obviously did not see how classless the kid was. He embarassed the Miami program. I know you feed off disagreeing with me. But if you endorse what the kid did you know nothing about class, dignity, maturity and proper conduct. The kid was a first class jerk. You're only making yourself look ignorant.

 

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You might suffer from reading comprehension issues or you agree with he players behavior. I posted "if you endorse what the kid did." But if the shoe fits.

For some reason you enjoy following me around the board and badgering me. The best solution is you go your way and I'll go mine. But if you want to continue to push I will continue to push back.

This is the second exchange this week you've initiated that will get deleted. At some point a board administrator will recognize you as a trouble maker. 

Had you seen what occurred and posted your justification for the behavior I would have accepted that. We probably would have debated the issue. But in your smug, smart ass way of doing things it's obvious you have no idea what occurred. You just wanted to badger me with your smart ass  post.

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Why does it not surprise me?   Is there something in the water in Miami that turns college athletes into morons?  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's not every kid....but it sure seems like it.  Apologies to the few kids at the "U" that do things the right way....but it just never ends with athletes at that school....regardless of the sport

Bolts-Coach-PR posted:

For lack of a better term, It was taunting (maybe time for an ejection rule when it's over the top like this?), and it needs to be addressed...

Other college sports aren't allowed anything more than spontaneous reaction when they score. I could see the NCAA instituting an anti bat flipping rule. But in this case it wasn't really about the bat flipping. It was about his behavior rounding the bases. The word is Miami had been mouthy towards BC all weekend.

 

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C'mon folks....It's the Univ of Miami.  I don't think anyone who follows ACC baseball is much surprised.   These are the same folks that brought us the phrase..."lack of institutional control" 30+ years ago.

A big tip of the cap to the BC program and Coach Gambiano.  Nobody (including myself) had them punched in for a Super Regional.  This experience should do wonders to move their program forward with recruits and funding.  I wish them well.

fenwaysouth posted:

C'mon folks....It's the Univ of Miami.  I don't think anyone who follows ACC baseball is much surprised.   These are the same folks that brought us the phrase..."lack of institutional control" 30+ years ago.

A big tip of the cap to the BC program and Coach Gambiano.  Nobody (including myself) had them punched in for a Super Regional.  This experience should do wonders to move their program forward with recruits and funding.  I wish them well.

The big issue with recruiting is getting the top players to stay in cold weather. The northeast players BC  could typically recruit head for warmer ACC locations. When Vanderbilt won the championship their #1, #2, closer and power hitting RFer were from Massachusetts. Ryan Flaherty and Kurt Casalli went to Vanderbilt. They're both from New England and in MLB. Vanderbilt's closer this year is from MA. These are just a handul of the players who left the area.

Have you ever been to a game there? There's a huge reservoir behind left field. The wind blows in from left. It's real cold. I wouldn't want to play there as a right handed power hitter. Plus it's 385 to the gap. 

BC was supposed to build a new facility as part of joining the ACC. The plans were done long ago. The real estate was procured long ago. If the land was in Newton (like most of the campus) the stadium would have been built long ago. Because the land is in corrupt Boston there has been haggling for ten years. BC's current facilities (training and stadium) are the worst in the ACC. 

Add in no one goes to the games. 500 is a big crowd.

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It is Miami - What do you expect.......  I went to one of the Ga Tech home games against Miami.  I was embarrassed by some of the things some of there fans were saying. 

I have to respect the BC catcher - He could have hauled off and knocked the crap out of the kid but he showed restraint - maybe Miami should learn from him.

The bat flip was bad but I can live with bat flips, Someone celebrating. But the taunting of the catcher was over the top.

Good thing the BC coach had a handle on his kids after the team yelling match, If that kid would have come up again (I did not see if he did), my son would have put one in his earhole.

I give the Miami coach credit, after he had his kids in the dugout, you could see he was having a come to Jesus talk with them. Sad that 34 guys had to listen to it because of one kid who should have just been benched. that would send a quicker message to the team, I would think.

My favorite message by a coach. Son was playing a team for Miami FL (16 or 17u). They came to the tournament on a very nice bus and had something like 35 players and 7 coaches. Very good team. Boy crushed a ball to CF. 400+. stood and watched it. Bad thing for him was, it hit the fence, our CFer was very deep and we held him to a single. Their manager called time, walked out from 3B dugout to first, bringing with him a pinch runner.

RJM posted:

The big issue with recruiting is getting the top players to stay in cold weather. The northeast players BC  could typically recruit head for warmer ACC locations. When Vanderbilt won the championship their #1, #2, closer and power hitting RFer were from Massachusetts. Ryan Flaherty and Kurt Casalli went to Vanderbilt. They're both from New England and in MLB. Vanderbilt's closer this year is from MA. These are just a handul of the players who left the area.

Have you ever been to a game there? There's a huge reservoir behind left field. The wind blows in from left. It's real cold. I wouldn't want to play there as a right handed power hitter. Plus it's 385 to the gap. 

BC was supposed to build a new facility as part of joining the ACC. The plans were done long ago. The real estate was procured long ago. If the land was in Newton (like most of the campus) the stadium would have been built long ago. Because the land is in corrupt Boston there has been haggling for ten years. BC's current facilities (training and stadium) are the worst in the ACC. 

Add in no one goes to the games. 500 is a big crowd.

Understood.  My comments were hopeful that some of this changes.  Obviously the weather is outside their control but convincing some recruits to stay closer to home is possible.  Gambino recruited my oldest son a bunch of years ago when he was an RC, and I thought he was pretty good at it.  He's calling the shots now, and it is his program.  He's got a huge territory and population where other ACC schools would be considered outsiders.  I just think right NOW is the time to change the hand BC has been dealt.  If not now, when? 

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Alanj posted:

It is Miami - What do you expect.......  I went to one of the Ga Tech home games against Miami.  I was embarrassed by some of the things some of there fans were saying. 

I have to respect the BC catcher - He could have hauled off and knocked the crap out of the kid but he showed restraint - maybe Miami should learn from him.

I was at one of their home games this year, fans are the worst.  

Kudos to the run that BC has had, and for keeping their cool yesterday.

Hats off to the OSU coach for not allowing a dogpile at  another teams turf. Classy. Even though I would like to see  an ACC team win, I am rooting for OSU 100%.

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fenwaysouth posted:
RJM posted:

The big issue with recruiting is getting the top players to stay in cold weather. The northeast players BC  could typically recruit head for warmer ACC locations. When Vanderbilt won the championship their #1, #2, closer and power hitting RFer were from Massachusetts. Ryan Flaherty and Kurt Casalli went to Vanderbilt. They're both from New England and in MLB. Vanderbilt's closer this year is from MA. These are just a handul of the players who left the area.

Have you ever been to a game there? There's a huge reservoir behind left field. The wind blows in from left. It's real cold. I wouldn't want to play there as a right handed power hitter. Plus it's 385 to the gap. 

BC was supposed to build a new facility as part of joining the ACC. The plans were done long ago. The real estate was procured long ago. If the land was in Newton (like most of the campus) the stadium would have been built long ago. Because the land is in corrupt Boston there has been haggling for ten years. BC's current facilities (training and stadium) are the worst in the ACC. 

Add in no one goes to the games. 500 is a big crowd.

Understood.  My comments were hopeful that some of this changes.  Obviously the weather is outside their control but convincing some recruits to stay closer to home is possible.  Gambino recruited my oldest son a bunch of years ago when he was an RC, and I thought he was pretty good at it.  He's calling the shots now, and it is his program.  He's got a huge territory and population where other ACC schools would be considered outsiders.  I just think right NOW is the time to change the hand BC has been dealt.  If not now, when? 

The 2009 team was about as good and had more talent. Sixteen players from the 2009 roster were drafted.  Nothing changed. If I'm recruiting against BC I point out in their two best seasons they were 13-15 in the ACC. I also point out the inferior mid week competition.

BC should always win their in season mid week games. Every game is inferior competition. It props up their record. The two toughest mid week games they played this year were UConn and Bryant. They lost both.  Bryant was stronger than normal this year. They put up 18 on BC. BC should never lose to Harvard, Northeastern, Holy Cross, UMass, UMass-Lowell, URI, Maine and Bryant.

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Coach_May posted:

It was taunting and it was pathetic.

Can't really defend that behavior, it was completely out of line.  At the same time though I don't think it is fair to judge the entire program based on the actions of one player.  Unlike some of the historic issues at Miami, the baseball program has traditionally been well run.

It should also be noted that Miami of 2016 isn't MIami of the 80's and 90's.  The school has cleaned up a lot since then. 

As for the fans - well, I usually attend a dozen or so games a year and I've certainly seen some cringeworthy behavior.  However, I've seen similar behavior at many other schools. The vast majority of the fans don't act like morons thankfully. Most of us just cheer and boo like rational people.

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